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Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:59 am
by Jim05
Brodlach wrote:249 to go!

It will be an exciting day of cricket, hopefully the weather clears.
Reckon we could lose close to a session to rain today.
Would be very apt if rain cost us the win ;)

Unfortunately England will win the moral Ashes 5-0 :)

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:05 am
by MW
Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:26 am
by batmanbegins
The big downside of our aggressive batting approach coming through now with the toll it takes on your bowlers to keep coming back so soon, especially with an old or injury prone attack. No doubt if Australia wins this then there long term approach has paid dividends and they can tell england to be quiet.

Just a massive day of cricket to come.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:30 am
by MW
batmanbegins wrote:The big downside of our aggressive batting approach coming through now with the toll it takes on your bowlers to keep coming back so soon, especially with an old or injury prone attack. No doubt if Australia wins this then there long term approach has paid dividends and they can tell england to be quiet.

Just a massive day of cricket to come.


Their bowlers get 2/3rds of a day to recover and come back fresh tomorrow. We have 250 to get at 2.8 an over with 10 wickets in hand on a day 5 pitch. Gonna be a ripping day.

One thing I'd like looked into (and we could be doing it as well for all i know) is the rate that the English bowlers leave the field after a spell. Why is that allowed?

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:31 am
by amber_fluid
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


Marnus is a flog and a spoilt brat.
He should have just kept walking.
The crowd will give it to him more now.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:39 am
by FlyingHigh
Jim05 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:249 to go!

It will be an exciting day of cricket, hopefully the weather clears.
Reckon we could lose close to a session to rain today.
Would be very apt if rain cost us the win ;)

Unfortunately England will win the moral Ashes 5-0 :)


Love the irony if we chased 250 at 5 an over.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:41 am
by FlyingHigh
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:51 am
by MW
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it


One thing is for sure, the England crowd who are lucky to have such close access to the players will lose this privilege for future Ashes series. No chance Australia allows it again for future tours.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:05 am
by Brodlach
amber_fluid wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


Marnus is a flog and a spoilt brat.
He should have just kept walking.
The crowd will give it to him more now.


That will worry him, for the last day of the series

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:07 am
by whufc
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it


What I've found interesting is that Khawaja in particular seems to be struggling/reacting with the crowd 'abuse'. He was front and centre of the long room exchange and now involved in what appears to be a very minor case of banter.

Take it all back if any is racism related and he deserves to belt a few blokes but, on the surface, he seems to really reactive to interactions with the crowd.

On the other hand, he really bought into the Aussie crowd banter a couple of seasons ago where he was on the boundary dancing (i think it was Adelaide Oval)

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:31 am
by Jim05
MW wrote:
batmanbegins wrote:The big downside of our aggressive batting approach coming through now with the toll it takes on your bowlers to keep coming back so soon, especially with an old or injury prone attack. No doubt if Australia wins this then there long term approach has paid dividends and they can tell england to be quiet.

Just a massive day of cricket to come.


Their bowlers get 2/3rds of a day to recover and come back fresh tomorrow. We have 250 to get at 2.8 an over with 10 wickets in hand on a day 5 pitch. Gonna be a ripping day.

One thing I'd like looked into (and we could be doing it as well for all i know) is the rate that the English bowlers leave the field after a spell. Why is that allowed?
For a team that trots out the “spirit of the game” line they are the biggest cheats out there.
How many times do their bowlers compete an over and then go off for some mystery injury only to return later looking fine. The umpires need to wake up to their BS and clamp down hard on it

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:38 am
by whufc
batmanbegins wrote:The big downside of our aggressive batting approach coming through now with the toll it takes on your bowlers to keep coming back so soon, especially with an old or injury prone attack. No doubt if Australia wins this then there long term approach has paid dividends and they can tell england to be quiet.

Just a massive day of cricket to come.


Not sure its so much the bowler fatigue rather the fact they have created flat pitches so chasing on late day 3- day 4 is almost the best time for batting.

That will be the tweaks needed to bazball as you feel more teams will send England in to bat first as everyone knows they want to be chasing.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:50 am
by The Dark Knight
mickey wrote:
JK wrote:Actually gonna miss Broad
His episode of the Howie Games was quite good

Sent from my SM-G781B using Tapatalk
Yep very good interview, an even better interview was Mark Wood on the Grade Cricketer podcast, he is a very funny man!
https://youtu.be/m4o4FZ3DKzg

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:56 am
by Booney
JK wrote:Actually gonna miss Broad


If he was Australian, I'd love him, but he's not so I loathe him.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:00 am
by RB
MW wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it


One thing is for sure, the England crowd who are lucky to have such close access to the players will lose this privilege for future Ashes series. No chance Australia allows it again for future tours.
Not sure how you can avoid it at most venues. I don't expect anything to change ahead of the next series.

I think fatigue after playing 6 tests, moreso than bazball, has probably taken its toll but still, why engage with louts in the crowd in the first place..?

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:12 am
by shoe boy
Booney wrote:
JK wrote:Actually gonna miss Broad


If he was Australian, I'd love him, but he's not so I loathe him.


With discussion re retirement of Broad and Possibly Warner soon do most players choose game and time of retirement? or has there been any world class players that have been dropped and never returned?
Example, did A Border, S Waugh, D Lillee choose when to retire?

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:23 am
by RB
Those three all chose when to retire. Also the case for most of the real top players, although there are some counterexamples (e.g. Ian Healy). Then you've got players like Ponting who were basically given a farewell game and allowed to announce their retirement, rather than being dropped.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:01 pm
by amber_fluid
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


Marnus is a flog and a spoilt brat.
He should have just kept walking.
The crowd will give it to him more now.


That will worry him, for the last day of the series


It shouldn’t have bothered him to start with.
Just keep walking

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:05 pm
by FlyingHigh
MW wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it


One thing is for sure, the England crowd who are lucky to have such close access to the players will lose this privilege for future Ashes series. No chance Australia allows it again for future tours.


Hopefully it doesn't come to that, because I think it is still one of the quaint, underappreciated things that set cricket apart from other sports. As small as it is, it kind of has an impact on the whole mentality of cricket IMO.

Re: Ashes 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:25 pm
by heater31
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
MW wrote:Interesting reaction by Uzzie and Marnus over than England supporter yelling 'boring' to them coming off the field.
Would be worse things said in the primary school playground than that...signs that this English campaign to push bazball and high tempo cricket has taken its toll on us?


On the face of it seems pretty precious. Who knows if there is more to it


One thing is for sure, the England crowd who are lucky to have such close access to the players will lose this privilege for future Ashes series. No chance Australia allows it again for future tours.


Hopefully it doesn't come to that, because I think it is still one of the quaint, underappreciated things that set cricket apart from other sports. As small as it is, it kind of has an impact on the whole mentality of cricket IMO.
Only took one incident at the old Adelaide oval dressing rooms for that glass balustrade/platform to take out several rows of seats to be installed......