SA Footy

Dogwatcher wrote:

Tony Clifton wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Booney wrote:Anyone else of the understanding that you had to complete your action before being able to mankad someone? ie - roll the arm over and then you could have them.

The rule has changed, you have to be anywhere in your delivery stride.

Not quite - the batsman can leave his crease legally as soon as the bowler enters his delivery stride. My understanding is that the 'delivery stride' commences at back foot landing.

In this case his back foot had landed prior to him taking off the bails so it shouldn't have been given out IMO.

He never went into his delivery stride, he just ran past and took the bails off, didn't he?

Law 42.15 permits the bowler to attempt to run out the non-striker, but only before entering his delivery stride which starts when the bowler's back foot lands for that stride and ends when the front foot lands in the same stride.

The International Cricket Council, however, has altered Law 42.15 for matches under its jurisdiction to read:

"The bowler is permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."

Under this regulation a bowler should be deemed to have completed his delivery swing once his arm passes the normal point of ball release which should be interpreted as the moment when the delivery arm is at its highest point.

Tony Clifton wrote:Turns out I'm wrong

This is what I thought the rules were:

Law 42.15 permits the bowler to attempt to run out the non-striker, but only before entering his delivery stride which starts when the bowler's back foot lands for that stride and ends when the front foot lands in the same stride.

However the rules have been changed to this which means that the batter was correctly given out:

The International Cricket Council, however, has altered Law 42.15 for matches under its jurisdiction to read:

"The bowler is permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."

Under this regulation a bowler should be deemed to have completed his delivery swing once his arm passes the normal point of ball release which should be interpreted as the moment when the delivery arm is at its highest point.

daysofourlives wrote:
So which rule do we amateurs go by?

The International Cricket Council, however, has altered Law 42.15 for matches under its jurisdiction to read:

"The bowler is permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."

Under this regulation a bowler should be deemed to have completed his delivery swing once his arm passes the normal point of ball release which should be interpreted as the moment when the delivery arm is at its highest point.

bennymacca wrote:So when does a ball become "live" again?

When the bowler starts his runup? When he enters his delivery stride?

JK wrote:So Hypothetically if a bowler takes a few steps of his run up and were to spot a non-striker out of his crease could he bowl at the non-strikers stumps in a mankad/run-out attempt? (Fanciful situation, just mucking around with the rules and what ifs)