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Dutchy wrote:

MW wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

stan wrote:If only we had a top order showing the grit and determination of the tail enders.

Or calling for a DRS.....

wouldn't have been reversed anyway

Incorrect

they interviewed the ump who made the decision and he said it would have been umpires call

Why is it that tailenders for the most part tend to value their wicket moreso than the selected batsmen in the team??

No that was Lyon, why did Cummin's get reversed then? Exactly the same.

Make Lyon captain

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Why is it that tailenders for the most part tend to value their wicket moreso than the selected batsmen in the team??

Its not that the top six value their wicket less than the tail.
Its the fact the top 6 are expected to score so they take more risks and are facing fresh, good bowlers with a new ball.

You can't compare the pair.

tigerpie wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Why is it that tailenders for the most part tend to value their wicket moreso than the selected batsmen in the team??

Its not that the top six value their wicket less than the tail.
Its the fact the top 6 are expected to score so they take more risks and are facing fresh, good bowlers with a new ball.

You can't compare the pair.

Well its a Test Match so run rates aren't that crucial.
Id rather a top 6 batsmen only take the necessary risks.

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tigerpie wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Why is it that tailenders for the most part tend to value their wicket moreso than the selected batsmen in the team??

Its not that the top six value their wicket less than the tail.
Its the fact the top 6 are expected to score so they take more risks and are facing fresh, good bowlers with a new ball.

You can't compare the pair.

You shouldn’t need to take risks to score runs in the top order.

tigerpie wrote:Its not that the top six value their wicket less than the tail.
Its the fact the top 6 are expected to score so they take more risks and are facing fresh, good bowlers with a new ball.

You can't compare the pair.

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Spargo wrote:

tigerpie wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Why is it that tailenders for the most part tend to value their wicket moreso than the selected batsmen in the team??

Its not that the top six value their wicket less than the tail.
Its the fact the top 6 are expected to score so they take more risks and are facing fresh, good bowlers with a new ball.

You can't compare the pair.

You shouldn’t need to take risks to score runs in the top order.

Geez how much cricket have you played?
It takes balls to cover drive an outswinger and or pull a quick bowler off your nose.
All attacking shots have an element of risk.

Booney wrote:
Renshaw
Harris ( and let them be for a while, let them become opening partners )
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Stoinis/Laubunche (sp)
Carey
Starc
Cummins
Hazlewood
Lyon

Carey > Paine with the bat, can play the batting all-rounder.

Fully concur.
Stoinis or Labuschagne based on what pitch is providing.
Carey will play once Smith is back; Paine is an excellent diplomat and a positive presence under trying times but will not be required once the dust settles and Smith returns.
The only bat outside this line up who might be an In is Warner and that's a tough one which I will leave to the powers that be (and would be an easier decision if Harris and Renshaw make the step up).

mal wrote:Next test series ????

WARNER
?
?
SMITH
?
?
CAREY
CUMMINS
STARC
LYON
HAZELWOOD

The other player should be KHAWAJA
My personal proviso being , he must open the batting, to get a few sighters before the spinners come into the attack
Like what happened against Pakistan

Confirmation
Khawaja has got the number 1 spot
Newcastle Harness 12/11/2018
R7-1

northerner wrote:

Booney wrote:
Renshaw
Harris ( and let them be for a while, let them become opening partners )
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Stoinis/Laubunche (sp)
Carey
Starc
Cummins
Hazlewood
Lyon

Carey > Paine with the bat, can play the batting all-rounder.

Fully concur.
Stoinis or Labuschagne based on what pitch is providing.
Carey will play once Smith is back; Paine is an excellent diplomat and a positive presence under trying times but will not be required once the dust settles and Smith returns.
The only bat outside this line up who might be an In is Warner and that's a tough one which I will leave to the powers that be (and would be an easier decision if Harris and Renshaw make the step up).

Stoinis injured.

Can't see any changes with MMarsh and Siddle the only two in the squad of 13 not playing.

Tremain not going to WA

northerner wrote:[Carey will play once Smith is back; Paine is an excellent diplomat and a positive presence under trying times but will not be required once the dust settles and Smith returns.

As part of the sanction after Cape Town, Smith has a further two years to serve once he returns from his playing ban before he can be considered for a leadership role. Warner can never be considered for a leadership role again.

So who would be captain if Paine was dropped, Khawaja?

Barring a massive drop in form, Paine will be around for a while yet in the creams, defiantly the ASHES, IMO.

Is it time for Carey to give up the gloves for SA and bat 4? If Paine is going to be captain until smith can do it, its a long time to wait for him. He could easily make t gf e test team ad a batsman but he gets limited opportunities at no 7

Corona Man wrote:What’s the point of going back to Warner now? Let’s just forget about that **** and get games into a younger/better bloke.

One of the best players in World cricket that’s why. I don’t care if he is a flog. If he makes runs in the SS he has to get in

yep, you have to pick on form.

Interesting stat breakdown, India kept rotating the strike where we defended too much, could easily be the difference in a close game.

Jim05 wrote:

Corona Man wrote:What’s the point of going back to Warner now? Let’s just forget about that **** and get games into a younger/better bloke.

One of the best players in World cricket that’s why. I don’t care if he is a flog. If he makes runs in the SS he has to get in

Not made a run in SS this season