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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Tue May 18, 2021 4:27 pm

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Eagles2014 wrote:
The bowlers should not have played dumb as if they knew nothing about it. They were the main people to benefit out of it. Still believe they got out of it lightly but will cop it in the future and rightly so.


If you find a $50 note on ground at the footy are you going to go around asking everyone who owns it?


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bloke walks into a bar with one thong on.
The barman says "what happened mate? Lose a thong?" bloke goes "nah mate found one!"
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby heater31 » Tue May 18, 2021 4:50 pm

whufc wrote:My predictions are:

1. that wasn't the first time but rather an escalation of finding new methods. Taking sandpaper on the field to tamper is like buying a Ferrari for your first car. You don't go straight to the grande you build up and eventually go big at the end. Look at the footage from the test before in Sydney where Bancroft was filling his pockets with sugar.

2. More than just the 3 player involved knew and were part of it including bowlers and Lehmann.

3. Historically was happening and there was a culture around it......wouldn't be surprised to see another 'youngish' type player come out and say they were asked to or did do it at some point.

4. All test teams have been doing it...and it pretty much was the only proper way to get a ball hooping for reverse swing...we haven't really seen much reverse swing since. Reverse swing was essentially code for tampered ball. Which is why or how they could never really agree on how swing worked and was created.
David Saker was the bowling coach in South Africa.....was also the head coach when Mick Lewis was caught red-handed at Glenelg Oval in a Sheild Final!

Reckon Cameron Bancroft is onto something......
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby RB » Tue May 18, 2021 6:07 pm

whufc wrote:4. All test teams have been doing it...and it pretty much was the only proper way to get a ball hooping for reverse swing...we haven't really seen much reverse swing since.


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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Tue May 18, 2021 6:26 pm

Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Eagles2014 » Tue May 18, 2021 6:36 pm

whufc wrote:Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.


"That day" - interesting choice of words! What a surprise they said this :shock:
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Tue May 18, 2021 7:00 pm

Eagles2014 wrote:
whufc wrote:Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.


"That day" - interesting choice of words! What a surprise they said this :shock:


IF they are telling the truth they are as dumb as it comes..............
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Tue May 18, 2021 7:38 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
whufc wrote:Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.


"That day" - interesting choice of words! What a surprise they said this :shock:


IF they are telling the truth they are as dumb as it comes..............


Between everyone someone is somewhat lying or telling half truths

Bowlers suggesting nothing untoward
Bancroft suggestion bowlers knew
Warner’s manager suggesting there is a different truth.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue May 18, 2021 7:40 pm

It's already tarnished their reputations and rightly so.
For the bowlers to think that us mugs in the public believe they knew nothing, I find disrespectful

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed May 19, 2021 9:10 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:It's already tarnished their reputations and rightly so.
For the bowlers to think that us mugs in the public believe they knew nothing, I find disrespectful

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I really couldn't give a flying f*** TBH, no comment would've been more apt, they will all get their chance to bowl at Bancroft, I'm sure he'll be invited to bat in the nets, fix him up Shane Strempel style but without the use of violence.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Dutchy » Wed May 19, 2021 9:24 am

whufc wrote:Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.


There was zero need for them to make a public statement, this confirms that they are guilty as the others IMO.

CA let Warne, Smith and Bancroft take the fall cause if it came out that the whole team knew about it they had a 1000 times bigger issue on their hands.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Wed May 19, 2021 9:42 am

Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:Bowlers have now released a joint statement saying they weren’t aware of any tampering that day.


There was zero need for them to make a public statement, this confirms that they are guilty as the others IMO.

CA let Warne, Smith and Bancroft take the fall cause if it came out that the whole team knew about it they had a 1000 times bigger issue on their hands.


Yeah I agree......banning an entire team would have been an absolute disaster (like the movie the replacements) and right there and then would have seen the series cancelled. Having a few scapegoats was the best way to manage the issue from a PR perspective.

Even to the point by the time the truth comes out 99% of players and administration will be retired so the consequences will be next to nothing.

I also agree about the statement from the bowlers....even the language had an under tone of delaying the discussion rather than a 100% defiant never happened then or at any other point end of story type statement. I imagine if they really wanted they could have threatened defamation for people speculating.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Brodlach » Wed May 19, 2021 9:49 am

Rubbish, series would have gone ahead with the next tier of players


Flogging a dead horse. Bancroft should pt up or shut up.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Wed May 19, 2021 10:52 am

Brodlach wrote:Rubbish, series would have gone ahead with the next tier of players


Flogging a dead horse. Bancroft should pt up or shut up.


And be banished from cricket altogether?
Why would he speak in full now as he will lose his job if he does.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Brodlach » Wed May 19, 2021 12:25 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Rubbish, series would have gone ahead with the next tier of players


Flogging a dead horse. Bancroft should pt up or shut up.


And be banished from cricket altogether?
Why would he speak in full now as he will lose his job if he does.

Why say anything then?
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Wed May 19, 2021 2:33 pm

Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Rubbish, series would have gone ahead with the next tier of players


Flogging a dead horse. Bancroft should pt up or shut up.


And be banished from cricket altogether?
Why would he speak in full now as he will lose his job if he does.

Why say anything then?


He was asked a question and he’s probably sick of telling lies.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed May 19, 2021 2:48 pm

amber_fluid wrote:He was asked a question and he’s probably sick of telling lies.

Should make everyone involved play for the Redbacks for a season
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Booney » Wed May 19, 2021 2:58 pm

I reckon Bancroft is on some secretly filmed TV show where the winner manages to elevate themselves from being liked, to a wanker and ultimately when the judges rule you've reached f*cking wanker status, you win.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby RB » Wed May 19, 2021 2:59 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:He was asked a question and he’s probably sick of telling lies.

Should make everyone involved play for the Redbacks for a season
That's harsher than a life ban.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Wed May 19, 2021 8:16 pm

Interesting article on a few different levels

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.the ... -tampering
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 20, 2021 9:31 am

whufc wrote:Interesting article on a few different levels

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.the ... -tampering

Shut up Saker you flogger, just trying to be remembered for something.
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