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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby DOC » Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:47 pm

am Bays wrote:
DOC wrote:6 down

23 balls left


as a minimum + time


Ta

12 minutes to go.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:16 pm

Did we win?
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby DOC » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:29 pm

WE would have if we batted first.

Pope would have spun us to victory.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:38 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Did we win?
Match Drawn.
SA second innings 6/244
Carey 66*
Worrall 9*

WA v Tasmania, day 2
Tasmania 6/215, trail by 23
Neil-Smith 60
McDermott 49
Silk 35*
Webster 29*
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Jhye Richardson is back and he took the first wicket of the innings.


Injured in the warm up and hasn't bowled another over :-Q

He had an 'acute back spasm in his thoracic spine' during the warm up, nothing too bad hopefully.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:21 pm

Pretty good Shield game overall

Ebbed and flowed

Ultimately we didn't have an answer to the class of Khawaja, though he got lucky with a decision or two maybe
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Brodlach » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 pm

We actually lost less wickets than Queensland
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:25 am

Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:41 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


I think its the general attitude of most teams these days.

In those situations they're happy to hedge their bets each way, bat normal until there is 30-40 overs remaining and if the run rate happens to be within 5-7 an over and they have 8-10 wickets in hand then have a dash knowing they can pull the pin at any point and almost be guaranteed to survive still.

The Head wicket was the one that cost us. Had he have got gotten alongside Carey they would have had a red hot crack. Once Head got out the thought of a chase was off.

Even Indias great run chase against us last year didn't start to 'fairly' late and was on the back of Pant getting away with a few.

Most teams ensure they wont lose first before then deciding if the chase is on. Almost identical to how the team batting in the third innings uses the decleration.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:42 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


Couldn’t agree more.
It’s almost like a draw is now good enough for them.

Have a crack and if you lose by going down swinging who cares.

Head is a good player but lacks serious leadership skills.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby helicopterking » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:12 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


Couldn’t agree more.
It’s almost like a draw is now good enough for them.

Have a crack and if you lose by going down swinging who cares.

Head is a good player but lacks serious leadership skills.


Head 3,Carey 4 and have a dip.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:27 am

It's not as though a loss would kill the confidence, they haven't got any!
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:31 am

Booney wrote:It's not as though a loss would kill the confidence, they haven't got any!


You haven't seen the lads on Sunday at the Cumby...…...they most definitely will tell you how good they are!! A couple of them aren't with the squad these days.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby heater31 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:53 am

whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:It's not as though a loss would kill the confidence, they haven't got any!


You haven't seen the lads on Sunday at the Cumby...…...they most definitely will tell you how good they are!! A couple of them aren't with the squad these days.
******* hell the Cumby is still Grade Cricket Central!!!!
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:02 am

helicopterking wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


Couldn’t agree more.
It’s almost like a draw is now good enough for them.

Have a crack and if you lose by going down swinging who cares.

Head is a good player but lacks serious leadership skills.


Head 3,Carey 4 and have a dip.


That was a pure no brainer.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


I think its the general attitude of most teams these days.

In those situations they're happy to hedge their bets each way, bat normal until there is 30-40 overs remaining and if the run rate happens to be within 5-7 an over and they have 8-10 wickets in hand then have a dash knowing they can pull the pin at any point and almost be guaranteed to survive still.

The Head wicket was the one that cost us. Had he have got gotten alongside Carey they would have had a red hot crack. Once Head got out the thought of a chase was off.

Even Indias great run chase against us last year didn't start to 'fairly' late and was on the back of Pant getting away with a few.

Most teams ensure they wont lose first before then deciding if the chase is on. Almost identical to how the team batting in the third innings uses the decleration.


We had no Pant or anything alike in the lower order, India also knew they had players lower that could nut it out if Pant got out.

We should've attacked first then retreated if it looked like a non event.

We never ebb and flow well, we end up just ebbing every time.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:06 am

Tony Clifton wrote:Pretty good Shield game overall

Ebbed and flowed

Ultimately we didn't have an answer to the class of Khawaja, though he got lucky with a decision or two maybe

We should've won after we dismissed them so cheaply, the one that got away.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Piss poor IMO, we had a minimum of 82 overs to get the 324 or whatever it was, we belted near 400 against them in 50 overs last week, we started too slowly and just don't have that winning mentality.

A more positive start could've seen a different outcome, we didn't know whether we were coming or going and dropping anchor has never been a strong point.

I'd sooner us fall 20 short trying to win than what happened, surely our bar is low atm so jagging a couple of scalps this season would do wonders for our confidence.


I think its the general attitude of most teams these days.

In those situations they're happy to hedge their bets each way, bat normal until there is 30-40 overs remaining and if the run rate happens to be within 5-7 an over and they have 8-10 wickets in hand then have a dash knowing they can pull the pin at any point and almost be guaranteed to survive still.

The Head wicket was the one that cost us. Had he have got gotten alongside Carey they would have had a red hot crack. Once Head got out the thought of a chase was off.

Even Indias great run chase against us last year didn't start to 'fairly' late and was on the back of Pant getting away with a few.

Most teams ensure they wont lose first before then deciding if the chase is on. Almost identical to how the team batting in the third innings uses the decleration.


We had no Pant or anything alike in the lower order, India also knew they had players lower that could nut it out if Pant got out.

We should've attacked first then retreated if it looked like a non event.

We never ebb and flow well, we end up just ebbing every time.


Not sure our guys have the skill or intestinal fortitude to retreat if things go wrong early. If we had gone hard and were 2/20 it would have been all out 130.

I think this is the first step in us being competitive again. Happy to forgive them this season provide next year we are a bit more attacking.

Trust the process. :lol:
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Jim05 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:45 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:Pretty good Shield game overall

Ebbed and flowed

Ultimately we didn't have an answer to the class of Khawaja, though he got lucky with a decision or two maybe

We should've won after we dismissed them so cheaply, the one that got away.
Some competent umpires wouldn’t go astray. Khawaja should have walked it was that blatantly off the gloves. QLD would have been 3 for stuff all at that stage.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby heater31 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:03 am

Jim05 wrote:Some competent umpires wouldn’t go astray.


This has been a problem for a number of years. Can't wait for the BBL circus to start up and the media can work themselves into a froth over poor decisions and Cricket Australia to just bank the Cheques to over pay their staff.

Saw recently the board chairperson role has a $250k salary attached to it!!!
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:16 am

Jim05 wrote:Some competent umpires wouldn’t go astray. Khawaja should have walked it was that blatantly off the gloves. QLD would have been 3 for stuff all at that stage.

On the flip side, Marnus got given LBW twice for the match.
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