Southern Football League

[turning circle]

bad luck to big seb this coming week perhaps with less game time against the rams. glenelg having a bye im sure trev cranston will be sent down to the roos.

[special]

bad luck to big seb this coming week perhaps with less game time against the rams. glenelg having a bye im sure trev cranston will be sent down to the roos.

less game time ??? prob sit at ff all day and kick 6

[special]

bad luck to big seb this coming week perhaps with less game time against the rams. glenelg having a bye im sure trev cranston will be sent down to the roos.

less game time ??? prob sit at ff all day and kick 6

if i remember last time these two teams meet seb was beaten by ryan wade that day so ff could be a good move

[Jayne]

bad luck to big seb this coming week perhaps with less game time against the rams. glenelg having a bye im sure trev cranston will be sent down to the roos.

less game time ??? prob sit at ff all day and kick 6

He'd need 20 shots at goal to convert 6...

[special]

bad luck to big seb this coming week perhaps with less game time against the rams. glenelg having a bye im sure trev cranston will be sent down to the roos.

less game time ??? prob sit at ff all day and kick 6

He'd need 20 shots at goal to convert 6...

prob have 10 so 3 still good return

[Waterboy]

Who won the carnival, i beleive there was 2 grades playing.

Yeah it was 2/3 and 4/5 yesterday.

2/3 was won by Reynella
4/5 ? in one semi you had M/Park V Marion and the other Brighton V Brighton and am unsure of the winners?

Brighton over Marion in the last game

good day, well hosted. it wouldve been good to see a league tent down there, as you would guess that SA's future is some of these kids.
bad luck to the marion boys they really played well.

Not just South Adelaide, lot of kids from Glenelg's zone playing yesterday as well. A good suggestion for next year.

[vics01]

Just a question.

I see other posters talk about Div 1 and the SFL talk about the DIV 1 Flag, as in Cove won their first div one flag in 2008.

Can someone tell me who is in Div 2 then and how the comp. is travelling?

[Bag The Points]

Just a question.

I see other posters talk about Div 1 and the SFL talk about the DIV 1 Flag, as in Cove won their first div one flag in 2008.

Can someone tell me who is in Div 2 then and how the comp. is travelling?

As you are obviously alluding to, "Div Two" no longer exists. However, as for me, I still use the term "Div One" to distinguish between the two situations. It's tricky because of the difference between the two achievements.
Cove have indeed won two A-Grade Flags, but in 1998 they were nowhere near the strongest side in the SFL. In 2008 they most definitely were, so it was the first time they have achieved that.
There have been times I have alluded to this as their "first Flag in an all-in division" but that is cumbersome ---- much easier to distinguish between "Div One" and "Div Two".

[rodney fox]

Just a question.

I see other posters talk about Div 1 and the SFL talk about the DIV 1 Flag, as in Cove won their first div one flag in 2008.

Can someone tell me who is in Div 2 then and how the comp. is travelling?

As you are obviously alluding to, "Div Two" no longer exists. However, as for me, I still use the term "Div One" to distinguish between the two situations. It's tricky because of the difference between the two achievements.
Cove have indeed won two A-Grade Flags, but in 1998 they were nowhere near the strongest side in the SFL. In 2008 they most definitely were, so it was the first time they have achieved that.
There have been times I have alluded to this as their "first Flag in an all-in division" but that is cumbersome ---- much easier to distinguish between "Div One" and "Div Two".

I think it's probably out of habit also for those of us that have come through the ranks in "Div2" to now be playing the one division. I only normally explain it as Div one to those that don't understand that there was a merger.

Other than that....who knows

[vics01]

With any luck the powers to be at SFL house will wake up and establish 2 divisions sooner rather than later. This would hopefully mean Competitive footy each week for the Div 1 8 to 10 teams and a Div 2 8 top 10 teams. After all we keep hearing from the SFl how they have clubs outside the SFL knocking on the door wanting to come over. Competitive footy will ultimately make the comp stronger. Realistically the teams that finish 7/8 possibly only do so due to a seeded draw and will bail out early. As it stands the 30 to 40 goal thrashings each do nothing for the status of the league or for the ability of the teams getting the thrashings to improve.

Before you say what about the stigma of Div 2 with recruiting players/sponsors and juniors. Think about the stigma of trying to recruit players/sponsors/juniors when all you can offer is 30 to 40 goal thrashings each week. At least if in Div 2 you be positive about being competitive and showing improvement.

Relagation would also make for good competitive footy right to the end of the season in a Div 1. It would hae to be compulsory promotion relagation though.

The powers to be need to consider that bigger is not always better. Consolidate before it's to late.

[Wand_07]

With any luck the powers to be at SFL house will wake up and establish 2 divisions sooner rather than later. This would hopefully mean Competitive footy each week for the Div 1 8 to 10 teams and a Div 2 8 top 10 teams. After all we keep hearing from the SFl how they have clubs outside the SFL knocking on the door wanting to come over. Competitive footy will ultimately make the comp stronger. Realistically the teams that finish 7/8 possibly only do so due to a seeded draw and will bail out early. As it stands the 30 to 40 goal thrashings each do nothing for the status of the league or for the ability of the teams getting the thrashings to improve.

Before you say what about the stigma of Div 2 with recruiting players/sponsors and juniors. Think about the stigma of trying to recruit players/sponsors/juniors when all you can offer is 30 to 40 goal thrashings each week. At least if in Div 2 you be positive about being competitive and showing improvement.

Relagation would also make for good competitive footy right to the end of the season in a Div 1. It would hae to be compulsory promotion relagation though.

The powers to be need to consider that bigger is not always better. Consolidate before it's to late.

You make some good points here, but how does Div 2 solve the problems for teams like Hackham, Aldinga (and maybe Flaggies and OSB to a lesser extent.) I would see it as perhaps killing these clubs off completely. If its not hard enough for them to recruit now, how hard would it be when they are being killed by 30+ goals in Div 2?
Yes they may still be getting belted but seem to be taking steps forward. Aldinga U/14 finals this season will be a long process. Flaggies are very strong at junior level.

Being a Cove man answer this. Would Ando be at Cove if they were Div 2? Would Cove be where they are now if it was still 2 Div's?
On a side note how many of the Cove players were at Cove when it was a Div 2 side?

I see it as making the "Powerhouses" bigger and the "Weaker" teams weaker. If the SFL was to go back to divisions it would need a lot more clubs maybe 3 Divs of 10.

Yes something needs to be done but I don’t think its 2 Divisions of 8 sides. I dont know what the answer is either.

[shoe boy]

With any luck the powers to be at SFL house will wake up and establish 2 divisions sooner rather than later. This would hopefully mean Competitive footy each week for the Div 1 8 to 10 teams and a Div 2 8 top 10 teams. After all we keep hearing from the SFl how they have clubs outside the SFL knocking on the door wanting to come over. Competitive footy will ultimately make the comp stronger. Realistically the teams that finish 7/8 possibly only do so due to a seeded draw and will bail out early. As it stands the 30 to 40 goal thrashings each do nothing for the status of the league or for the ability of the teams getting the thrashings to improve.

Before you say what about the stigma of Div 2 with recruiting players/sponsors and juniors. Think about the stigma of trying to recruit players/sponsors/juniors when all you can offer is 30 to 40 goal thrashings each week. At least if in Div 2 you be positive about being competitive and showing improvement.

Relagation would also make for good competitive footy right to the end of the season in a Div 1. It would hae to be compulsory promotion relagation though.

The powers to be need to consider that bigger is not always better. Consolidate before it's to late.

Vic01 11 June 2009

Cove 12-7
M/Vale 37-17
I see where you are coming from

[Esteban Vihaio]

With any luck the powers to be at SFL house will wake up and establish 2 divisions sooner rather than later. This would hopefully mean Competitive footy each week for the Div 1 8 to 10 teams and a Div 2 8 top 10 teams. After all we keep hearing from the SFl how they have clubs outside the SFL knocking on the door wanting to come over. Competitive footy will ultimately make the comp stronger. Realistically the teams that finish 7/8 possibly only do so due to a seeded draw and will bail out early. As it stands the 30 to 40 goal thrashings each do nothing for the status of the league or for the ability of the teams getting the thrashings to improve.

Before you say what about the stigma of Div 2 with recruiting players/sponsors and juniors. Think about the stigma of trying to recruit players/sponsors/juniors when all you can offer is 30 to 40 goal thrashings each week. At least if in Div 2 you be positive about being competitive and showing improvement.

Relagation would also make for good competitive footy right to the end of the season in a Div 1. It would hae to be compulsory promotion relagation though.

The powers to be need to consider that bigger is not always better. Consolidate before it's to late.

[White Line Fever]

Just let it be.
It all comes around in circles. It wasn't that long ago that Morphett Vale was at the hands of Marion thrashings and Marion played in alot of grand finals through the 90s. Also Cove a perfect example of becoming a powerhouse.
If 2 divs were set up, it will kill the 2nd div teams, no-one wants to play every week against the hackhams etc.
In ten years time who knows, and this argument will come up again....
And this year, I do feel as though the middle of the range teams have all slightly closed the gap on the big 7!!!

[special]

Just let it be.
It all comes around in circles. It wasn't that long ago that Morphett Vale was at the hands of Marion thrashings and Marion played in alot of grand finals through the 90s. Also Cove a perfect example of becoming a powerhouse.
If 2 divs were set up, it will kill the 2nd div teams, no-one wants to play every week against the hackhams etc.
In ten years time who knows, and this argument will come up again....
And this year, I do feel as though the middle of the range teams have all slightly closed the gap on the big 7!!!

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.

[shoe boy]

Just let it be.
It all comes around in circles. It wasn't that long ago that Morphett Vale was at the hands of Marion thrashings and Marion played in alot of grand finals through the 90s. Also Cove a perfect example of becoming a powerhouse.
If 2 divs were set up, it will kill the 2nd div teams, no-one wants to play every week against the hackhams etc.
In ten years time who knows, and this argument will come up again....
And this year, I do feel as though the middle of the range teams have all slightly closed the gap on the big 7!!!

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.

Special good post and higenic 2.
We at the Shoe have a gang of about 10 people that get together on a friday about lunch time b4 every home game and get the complex ready for the morning including cleaning of toilets (as I usually get that job) high pressure showers/clean and vac change rooms/empty all bins/stack bar and canteen/mark oval/inspect and maintain oval/clean all outside walking areas/and clean and tidy club rooms.
I know where you are coming from as I have been in some away rooms that am sure the host club havent been in the room from the start of the year!

[special]

Just let it be.
It all comes around in circles. It wasn't that long ago that Morphett Vale was at the hands of Marion thrashings and Marion played in alot of grand finals through the 90s. Also Cove a perfect example of becoming a powerhouse.
If 2 divs were set up, it will kill the 2nd div teams, no-one wants to play every week against the hackhams etc.
In ten years time who knows, and this argument will come up again....
And this year, I do feel as though the middle of the range teams have all slightly closed the gap on the big 7!!!

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.

Special good post and higenic 2.
We at the Shoe have a gang of about 10 people that get together on a friday about lunch time b4 every home game and get the complex ready for the morning including cleaning of toilets (as I usually get that job) high pressure showers/clean and vac change rooms/empty all bins/stack bar and canteen/mark oval/inspect and maintain oval/clean all outside walking areas/and clean and tidy club rooms.
I know where you are coming from as I have been in some away rooms that am sure the host club havent been in the room from the start of the year!

great job always the same faces doing the same jobs ha im trying to say to all clubs less on players more on club the players come and go the enviroment stays same WHy do we let this happen come on clubs show some pride a lets all help to make the league more successful

[special]

Just let it be.
It all comes around in circles. It wasn't that long ago that Morphett Vale was at the hands of Marion thrashings and Marion played in alot of grand finals through the 90s. Also Cove a perfect example of becoming a powerhouse.
If 2 divs were set up, it will kill the 2nd div teams, no-one wants to play every week against the hackhams etc.
In ten years time who knows, and this argument will come up again....
And this year, I do feel as though the middle of the range teams have all slightly closed the gap on the big 7!!!

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.

Special good post and higenic 2.
We at the Shoe have a gang of about 10 people that get together on a friday about lunch time b4 every home game and get the complex ready for the morning including cleaning of toilets (as I usually get that job) high pressure showers/clean and vac change rooms/empty all bins/stack bar and canteen/mark oval/inspect and maintain oval/clean all outside walking areas/and clean and tidy club rooms.
I know where you are coming from as I have been in some away rooms that am sure the host club havent been in the room from the start of the year!

great job always the same faces doing the same jobs ha im trying to say to all clubs less on players more on club the players come and go the enviroment stays same WHy do we let this happen come on clubs show some pride a lets all help to make the league more successful

How do we get started you say well how many club members do you have(do you know)
what do those member do(just watch footy?)
what do we as clubs offer to members(why be a member)
Ask these QQQ
Then say we need to think buisness like AFL(more members better chance to make $$$$$)
Can we ask members for donation(maybe)
will this be a big hit (no)people dont give for nothing(can we offer something to our members)
YES we can offer membership which intitles a member to free entry into HOME games
a Free day of games,saussage sissles and entertainment(monthly)butcher donation etc
free entry into beer raffle each week.
all for a low $50 a member now work out your members x$50
that is a start and i recon we (all clubs will have upgrade toilets in one year)
or take 10% of match payments at start of year so if your budget is $30,000 than only spend $27,000 and keep $3,,000 each year for renos in 10 years time wow what a differance $30,000 makes

[Zelezny Chucks]

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.[/quote]

Special good post and higenic 2.
We at the Shoe have a gang of about 10 people that get together on a friday about lunch time b4 every home game and get the complex ready for the morning including cleaning of toilets (as I usually get that job) high pressure showers/clean and vac change rooms/empty all bins/stack bar and canteen/mark oval/inspect and maintain oval/clean all outside walking areas/and clean and tidy club rooms.
I know where you are coming from as I have been in some away rooms that am sure the host club havent been in the room from the start of the year![/quote]great job always the same faces doing the same jobs ha im trying to say to all clubs less on players more on club the players come and go the enviroment stays same WHy do we let this happen come on clubs show some pride a lets all help to make the league more successful[/quote]
How do we get started you say well how many club members do you have(do you know)
what do those member do(just watch footy?)
what do we as clubs offer to members(why be a member)
Ask these QQQ
Then say we need to think buisness like AFL(more members better chance to make $$$$$)
Can we ask members for donation(maybe)
will this be a big hit (no)people dont give for nothing(can we offer something to our members)
YES we can offer membership which intitles a member to free entry into HOME games
a Free day of games,saussage sissles and entertainment(monthly)butcher donation etc
free entry into beer raffle each week.
all for a low $50 a member now work out your members x$50
that is a start and i recon we (all clubs will have upgrade toilets in one year)
or take 10% of match payments at start of year so if your budget is $30,000 than only spend $27,000 and keep $3,,000 each year for renos in 10 years time wow what a differance $30,000 makes[/quote]

Is this donation to make sure next years club is not in the SFL??

He is the most over-rated player I have seen.

[special]

one div two divs getting recuites to better the team mate it seems these days if you have cash than the better the shape doesnt matter about divs its all about the coin and this league doesnt give back to the clubs so how do we go forward?unless disaster eg pt nourlunga glass clean etc clubs just get by each year with fees and match payments weres the help to build new change rooms put in decent toilets and pay to have maintained cant tell u how many times ive shat at another club and had to clean toilet first then find some paper its the basic that first need be delt with at each club but again the clubs need support from league. a task force needs to be set up and visit all clubs and identify any issues. then work needs to be assigned to get our clubs to a level of non embarrassment.this making our league more attractive. also take note the amount of intrest in the hills league is due to the coverage it gets throught local papers and community were do we sit in that dept (no where) lets take a good look at what we offer and the lets improve these areas.

Special good post and higenic 2.
We at the Shoe have a gang of about 10 people that get together on a friday about lunch time b4 every home game and get the complex ready for the morning including cleaning of toilets (as I usually get that job) high pressure showers/clean and vac change rooms/empty all bins/stack bar and canteen/mark oval/inspect and maintain oval/clean all outside walking areas/and clean and tidy club rooms.
I know where you are coming from as I have been in some away rooms that am sure the host club havent been in the room from the start of the year![/quote]great job always the same faces doing the same jobs ha im trying to say to all clubs less on players more on club the players come and go the enviroment stays same WHy do we let this happen come on clubs show some pride a lets all help to make the league more successful[/quote]
How do we get started you say well how many club members do you have(do you know)
what do those member do(just watch footy?)
what do we as clubs offer to members(why be a member)
Ask these QQQ
Then say we need to think buisness like AFL(more members better chance to make $$$$$)
Can we ask members for donation(maybe)
will this be a big hit (no)people dont give for nothing(can we offer something to our members)
YES we can offer membership which intitles a member to free entry into HOME games
a Free day of games,saussage sissles and entertainment(monthly)butcher donation etc
free entry into beer raffle each week.
all for a low $50 a member now work out your members x$50
that is a start and i recon we (all clubs will have upgrade toilets in one year)
or take 10% of match payments at start of year so if your budget is $30,000 than only spend $27,000 and keep $3,,000 each year for renos in 10 years time wow what a differance $30,000 makes[/quote]

Is this donation to make sure next years club is not in the SFL??

He is the most over-rated player I have seen.[/quote]
who is over rate