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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby King Kernas » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:32 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby The Yetti » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:35 am

King Kernas wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.



KK you are in the mature age category and you trained Wed night for at least 90 min
How was it doing the run and steps?
How have you pulled up?
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby words of wisdom » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:41 am

King Kernas wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.


KK, Does your club have ice baths, spas, physios, doctors,a hyperbaric chamber. I dont think you should compare Afl to country footy. You have to be very careful these days with " duty of care ". I cant see the long term benefit in hamering guys this time of year in this heat.
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby Bag The Points » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:02 am

You've hit the nail right on the head there, WOW ---- this time of year
Persisting in Pre-Season training during the course of this heat wave is crazy. It's not as if you have a vital game coming up in the next seven days. Put it all on hold until the heat wave has passed.
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:14 am

Bag The Points wrote:You've hit the nail right on the head there, WOW ---- this time of year
Persisting in Pre-Season training during the course of this heat wave is crazy. It's not as if you have a vital game coming up in the next seven days. Put it all on hold until the heat wave has passed.


Thats a fair call BTP but as Ratsy keeps telling the lads listen to your body!!!

It is also more about keeping the group together and while the heat is on it is only a light run.
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:56 am

King Kernas wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.

1- They trained at 9 a.m, so it's mid to high 30's at the hottest
2- They are proffesional athletes who's bodies realistically overall are just about the pinnacle
of fitness above any other sport on the planet (Eg being able to sustain constant physical
punishment and run 8-20 km in a match).
3- They are well equiped with shower fans, ice cold water/sports drinks, have world class
support from the sidelines.
4- They are observed before and after training to see the effects by proffesional sports
scientists.

Do you remember that bloke from Norwood a year or 2 back whos body went into muscle meltdown and subsequintly almost died?? Thats a bloke from an SANFL club who would be fitter than 99% of us posting on here......
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby rodney fox » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:21 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
King Kernas wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.

1- They trained at 9 a.m, so it's mid to high 30's at the hottest
2- They are proffesional athletes who's bodies realistically overall are just about the pinnacle
of fitness above any other sport on the planet (Eg being able to sustain constant physical
punishment and run 8-20 km in a match).
3- They are well equiped with shower fans, ice cold water/sports drinks, have world class
support from the sidelines.
4- They are observed before and after training to see the effects by proffesional sports
scientists.

Do you remember that bloke from Norwood a year or 2 back whos body went into muscle meltdown and subsequintly almost died?? Thats a bloke from an SANFL club who would be fitter than 99% of us posting on here......[/quote]

That's not entirely true... He would be about 3000% times fitter than me. :lol:
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby tatts » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:32 am

rodney fox wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
King Kernas wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Thats's ridiculous saying training when it's 42 + degrees is beneficial in the long run. It does more damage to your body than good and anybody that tells you different is both arrogant and stupid. If world class athletes are complaining why the roof is not closed on Vodafone arena surely that sends a message to amateur sports players. Common sence.

What about Power and Crows training in the heat, so it can't be doing that much damage to the body.

1- They trained at 9 a.m, so it's mid to high 30's at the hottest
2- They are proffesional athletes who's bodies realistically overall are just about the pinnacle
of fitness above any other sport on the planet (Eg being able to sustain constant physical
punishment and run 8-20 km in a match).
3- They are well equiped with shower fans, ice cold water/sports drinks, have world class
support from the sidelines.
4- They are observed before and after training to see the effects by proffesional sports
scientists.

Do you remember that bloke from Norwood a year or 2 back whos body went into muscle meltdown and subsequintly almost died?? Thats a bloke from an SANFL club who would be fitter than 99% of us posting on here......[/quote]

That's not entirely true... He would be about 3000% times fitter than me. :lol:

I think most coaches are aware of the Duty Of Care that they have to their players well being.In saying that i remember doing pre season in the 1980s and we still had to do it regardless of the heat.Most coaches are more sensible now and modify their training accordingly.To not train at all because of the heat tho is weak as piss.Sometimes you have to pay the price if you want success
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby rodney fox » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:13 pm

Totally agree Tatts, gee some people are too precious. Obvious people (coaches) are appointed because they have some level of common sense and this would obviously be applied to restricted trainings or what ever they decide.

Maybe we are all that bored we just like to whinge. Maybe when it starts raining we can sook about that too :roll:
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby asert » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:52 pm

the truth to it is yes its hot yes its hard work and we dont want to go but when your there doing it its not that bad and was worth it.

nice pick rodney hows fatherhood treating you. you gonna play this year
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby rodney fox » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:05 am

asert wrote:the truth to it is yes its hot yes its hard work and we dont want to go but when your there doing it its not that bad and was worth it.

nice pick rodney hows fatherhood treating you. you gonna play this year


Thanks mate, yeah all is good he is doing really well thanks.

Yeah I'm pulling the boots on again, Just getting the back right first slipped a disc in October so March 10 is my date at the moment. I'm a machine on the X Trainer I'll tell you that :lol:
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby stelf one » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:31 pm

have to say the shoe boys looking really good this pre-season running good times in all the time trials.
keep up all the good work boys............
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby Hills » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:58 am

stelf one wrote:have to say the shoe boys looking really good this pre-season running good times in all the time trials.
keep up all the good work boys............


S1 ratsy has been belting us. Wieght work and time trials at the start and end of training is definetly gonna get us fit..
Was hard last week with the heat..
look forward to tomorrow night.....
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby shoe boy » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:34 am

Hills wrote:
stelf one wrote:have to say the shoe boys looking really good this pre-season running good times in all the time trials.
keep up all the good work boys............


S1 ratsy has been belting us. Wieght work and time trials at the start and end of training is definetly gonna get us fit..
Was hard last week with the heat..
look forward to tomorrow night.....


Car tyres involved tomorrow night???? looking forward to that
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby Hills » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:07 pm

shoe boy wrote:
Hills wrote:
stelf one wrote:have to say the shoe boys looking really good this pre-season running good times in all the time trials.
keep up all the good work boys............


S1 ratsy has been belting us. Wieght work and time trials at the start and end of training is definetly gonna get us fit..
Was hard last week with the heat..
look forward to tomorrow night.....


Car tyres involved tomorrow night???? looking forward to that


my contribution will be a hot wheels car tyre! :lol:
At least we will be in the water!
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby mrf » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:16 pm

Hey Shoe Boy how has Rob Leyton been going out at pre-season?
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby shoe boy » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:48 pm

mrf wrote:Hey Shoe Boy how has Rob Leyton been going out at pre-season?


Rob has been going well.

Should have his licence very soon also
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby Rex Banner » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:25 pm

Porties travelling well. Dobson in career best shape
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby the observer » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:03 am

Banner whos Dobson If you mean Dobbins has niot been seen
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Re: Pre Season Training

Postby Mr Magoo » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:37 pm

Bag The Points wrote:You've hit the nail right on the head there, WOW ---- this time of year
Persisting in Pre-Season training during the course of this heat wave is crazy. It's not as if you have a vital game coming up in the next seven days. Put it all on hold until the heat wave has passed.


Looks to me as though you would not have trained for 2 weeks now
When do you reckon you will start?
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