Southern Football League

[vics01]

WATERBOY
Can't speak for Morphettville Park but in Lonsdale's case the decision is to have an under 14s side on Sunday or have no under 14s side. Without the under 14s who are still in year 7 at private schools and have to play Saturday for their school Lonsdale do not have the numbers for an under 14s side.

Lonsdale have presented their case to the board and the board have agreed that it is better that they have a team of under 14s somewhere than have no team at all.

That is a crock of an excuse. Can't think of many if any private schools down lonsdale way that play footy.

Again I say this destroys the fabric of the SFL comp.

[THE MOLE]

WATERBOY
Can't speak for Morphettville Park but in Lonsdale's case the decision is to have an under 14s side on Sunday or have no under 14s side. Without the under 14s who are still in year 7 at private schools and have to play Saturday for their school Lonsdale do not have the numbers for an under 14s side.

Lonsdale have presented their case to the board and the board have agreed that it is better that they have a team of under 14s somewhere than have no team at all.

That is a crock of an excuse. Can't think of many if any private schools down lonsdale way that play footy.

Again I say this destroys the fabric of the SFL comp.

So what would you rather, Lonsdale have no u14s team at all or try and get one together for the sunday competition and then hopefully pick up some more numbers in the following years and have a saturday team.
If you let your ego go and have a look at the situation you would see that in the long run this would be better for the club and the league. Is this something you got outvoted on at the commitee meeting and cant let go?? Either way you must realise that more people see this a reasonable path to take than agree with you.

[Waterboy]

WATERBOY
Can't speak for Morphettville Park but in Lonsdale's case the decision is to have an under 14s side on Sunday or have no under 14s side. Without the under 14s who are still in year 7 at private schools and have to play Saturday for their school Lonsdale do not have the numbers for an under 14s side.

Lonsdale have presented their case to the board and the board have agreed that it is better that they have a team of under 14s somewhere than have no team at all.

That is a crock of an excuse. Can't think of many if any private schools down lonsdale way that play footy.

Again I say this destroys the fabric of the SFL comp.

Not many kids full stop in Lonsdale so they have to look further afield. Try Calvery Lutheran, Antonio Catholic and Tatachilla.

Is Lonsdale having no under 14s preferable to having just Sunday under 14s? At least with Sunday under 14s they are one step closer to having a Saturday team. Otherwise the kids they do have go to other clubs and next season they are struggling for a team again.

[GO THE PUNT]

Nothink wrong with starting somewhere with the junior grades to build numbers at the club. Don't forget they are giving these kids a chance to play the great game instead off going over to the girly game of soccer. You will find that alot of the taems that fill side on a Saturday and sunday dont only do it because of large numbers but for the exact reason of allowing the college kids to play for a club. As for not to many colleges in lonsdale maybe true but kids can get on public transport and head of to school in a different zone to give them a better chance of a better education.

[Ogilthorpe]

Geez one minute its all about clubs shouldnt be recruiting so many players, in the long term they should be encouraging juniors and trying to hold on to them. Next people are pissed that clubs are doing everything they can to give kids that actually want to be at their club a game instead of going up the road to...??

[HH3]

Maybe the Shoes should ask Whitey why he said it to me then? And theres a difference between "tagging" (which obviously wouldnt happen) and "targeting" (cheap shots)...

Im done. You all take stuff said on here way too seriously.

PS...theres 2 Hackham Hawks...

[shoe boy]

recruiter 10 wrote

When ya getting beaten around the ring with the clearance stick who cares dont squeal toughen up chin up townies and by the way league maroons are they bringing their full junior sides in 2010 or is it one rule for them and another for the rest again

It would appear that there are no rules the SFL are going to allow Lonsdale and M/Park to run Sunday U14 and 16 but not Saturday.

I would like to know the reasoning for this. This decision to allow them not play the 14/16 on a Saturday affects every other club that does have juniors, messed up fixtures, loss of gate takings, BBQ etc..

What possible reason can there be for not playing on Saturday after all this is what the SFL prides itself on a whole day of footy for the family? This decision rips at the heart of the strength of the comp.

So before getting into E/Town ask the question of the SFL.

Bit hard to demand E/Town bring a full compilment when the existing clubs don't.

good call Vic01 b4 you know it we will merge with SAAFL

[Backliner]

Maybe the bottom teams should just field one team, C grade Sunday, that way the tradies can work Saturday's and play Sunday, build up from there?

[HH3]

Maybe the bottom teams should just field one team, C grade Sunday, that way the tradies can work Saturday's and play Sunday, build up from there?

Thats what ruined Hackham...when we went from having As Bs and Cs down to just Cs...all the people that were left that wanted to play A grade footy left as well...and there wouldnt be any way back from it coz whos gonna come to our club to play C grade?

[asert]

All you people that have a problem with the sun 14s do any of you have anything to do with juniors. It's about getting kids on the park not about what ground they play. Yes it is hard when your at a few grounds but be greatful that lonsdale and parks are trying. Hackham had to go back to just feilding a c grade with no a or b grades that's alot worse than a 60 goal loss but they had a season where they just missed finals someone won a league medal. Good on the league.


What is the league doing for the c grade comp this year to spice up. Rather than a top 4 game every week.

[asert]

You did lose players but what would happened to u if u had of stayed sat not c grade.

[HH3]

Yeah im just saying even the ones that wanted to stay at Hackham still left because there was no A grade eg. Paine and Evans...they came back once an A grade side was back.

[Backliner]

prob misunderstood me, not interested in Sat A and B grade, why push the issue if locals aren't interested, have a social C grade until the league is split into 2 divs, we have 30+ life member from 1977 to present and 4 at the club, make the hard call and piss the Saturday off, just my opinion

[HH3]

If we got rid of the A and B grades we would set ourselves back at least 2 years. We've been trying hard to get players. We field 2 sides every Saturday. The last time the A grade took to the field, we won. So I dont see the point in stopping the progress that we've been working so hard to accomplish. The Hackham locals are right behind our A grade. You shouldve seen the crowd at the last game...the place was packed. If we continue what we are doing, get a few more wins against the bottom sides and prove we are improving, players with better skills will come.

Plus if we dropped the 2 teams to make 1, where would the rest of the players go? What club would want to sign "hackham B graders"?...i doubt many would on our reputation...

[Backliner]

If you can maintain your spending to beat the bottom sides good luck, but you also got beaten by 20 goals by the 2nd bottom side last year too don't forget, painting a rosy picture about the last game of the year when nothing was on the line, the bottom 8 beat the bottom 8 each year and thats about it, might change depending on how much coin is spent,

[HH3]

So you're saying if we cant beat the top sides, we dont have a right to be in the league. There are always going to be bottom sides, and they are always only likely to beat the bottom sides, if any...

What happens if Hackham, Lonsdale and Aldinga dropped out? Then in 2 years time you'll be calling for Flaggies, Marion and Christies to get rid of their As and Bs because they're bottom teams and are only really competitive when playing each other...

[Backliner]

Correct. how many leagues besides the AFL have 15 teams? There is a big gap between the teams and nobody wants to touch it because the mid range teams keep going on wins against the bottom sides. People say 'develop juniors' when clubs with no juniors play finals. You are recruiting this year to beat Aldinga, Lonsdale and M'Ville park and be happy with 2 wins to recruit more for 2011, is this not an indication of the whole situation??

[HH3]

So you expect a team from going from mostly ring ins 3 years ago to beating top teams. Yes we are aiming to beat Aldinga twice, hopefully beat Lonsdale at least once, maybe Flaggies, Porties and M/Park...depending how they are going. If we do that, that makes in between 3 and 6 wins...even 3 wins is a lot more than people expect of us. We would get POSITIVE attention, and people will want to come play for us. Believe it or not, not every good footballer has the same opinion as you. Some see a team improving, and would like to help and eventually (it may take a few years) play finals.

But if people keep on saying "hackham should fold" or just give us sh!t its not going to help anybody. If you want 2 divisions, so be it...but theres no point getting rid of our As and Bs and losing half our players, then having to find new ones to fill the extra team when the divisions come into play. All that would mean is instead of being at the bottom of the SFL, where we play M/Vale, Brighton, etc...we'd be at the bottom of Div 2, where we play Lonsdale and Aldinga...and absolutely no one would even consider playing for us...and our club would most likely fold...

[Backliner]

If this was a new thing I'd sorta agree, but since 2002 not a lot has happened for Hackham and Aldinga, you guys won 1 or 2 games when we didn't win any and then you folded, came back and you have won 1 game in 4 years. Maybe I'm getting a bit carried away but when you hear the cash being offered to your players and what other player's want, then you shake your head and wonder WTF is happening. One of our 18 year old's has been cut from Sth and is being offered 200+, seriously, WTF? (and he's contracted for 2010 to us) but that hasn't stoped the other club.

[HH3]

What club are you from?

I dont know too much about payments...im just a player that occasionally gets let in on some things. I dont agree with big payments, or payments at all. I dont think im good enough to get paid, so I take the minimum I can...which is I use to buy dinner and a bundy after a game.

I do know that some money has been offered to some players. But a lot of what you hear is not entirely accurate. Ive even believed some rumours that turned out to be a load of sh!t...

To just write us off is pretty harsh. The top teams spend money, more than us. To be saying a lot of our players are on $150 a game like we've been hearing is just silly. I know what the top players at our club get, so to say we'd offer people that we wouldnt consider would make as much of an impact as Mosar and Paine $150...dreaming...(i know im gonna cop it but its the truth)