Southern Football League

[RedArmy]

maybe instead of concentrating on making the league more competitive by putting weaker teams in div 2 so that they can feel good about not being very good, maybe you should concentrate on making the weaker teams better, maybe harsher points system for the top clubs and then giving the weaker teams more points in the points system

[shoe boy]

maybe instead of concentrating on making the league more competitive by putting weaker teams in div 2 so that they can feel good about not being very good, maybe you should concentrate on making the weaker teams better, maybe harsher points system for the top clubs and then giving the weaker teams more points in the points system

That already is in place.
Just thinking about the junior draw which must be close,surelly the sides with full contingents re 14/16/18 dont get shafted around this year.

[GO THE PUNT]

SB you talk like the sfl owes the shoes somethink major. There are 14 other clubs in this league that need to be listen 2 not just the shoes. Every post you write is about how hard done by the shoes are. Mate your club has improved but still got a long way to go yet.
I do agree that the clubs that have a full Sat selection do get the odd bad draw with teams all over the place is wrong but what do you do? maybe look at not allowing the clubs without full sat programme miss out on home games.

[shoe boy]

SB you talk like the sfl owes the shoes somethink major. There are 14 other clubs in this league that need to be listen 2 not just the shoes. Every post you write is about how hard done by the shoes are. Mate your club has improved but still got a long way to go yet.
I do agree that the clubs that have a full Sat selection do get the odd bad draw with teams all over the place is wrong but what do you do? maybe look at not allowing the clubs without full sat programme miss out on home games.

Shit GTP I look after my backyard!!!! If you read my last post it refered to TEAMS not the Shoes!!!

And no one owes us a thing we just want a well run comp that is fair for all!
By the way GTP who do u follow?????

And as for the highlite not a bad idea then u would see them get into gear!

[Rush a Point]

LION HEART

You and other posters miss the point for 2 years now posters have been complaining about E/Town not bringing juniors but now that established SFL clubs are messing with the junior system it is ok. go figure

Maybe it is time the SFL made the hard decisions and enforce that clubs field sides in every grade on a Saturday. If they can't they fall by the wayside.
Get the competition down to about 10 clubs and you don't have to worry about 2 divisions.

[Esteban Vihaio]

LION HEART

You and other posters miss the point for 2 years now posters have been complaining about E/Town not bringing juniors but now that established SFL clubs are messing with the junior system it is ok. go figure

Maybe it is time the SFL made the hard decisions and enforce that clubs field sides in every grade on a Saturday. If they can't they fall by the wayside.
Get the competition down to about 10 clubs and you don't have to worry about 2 divisions.

Whether or not it is a valid point, at least Rush a Point can utter the words that Vics, SB, and LGIL think but dare not say.

[reppoh_eht]

LION HEART

You and other posters miss the point for 2 years now posters have been complaining about E/Town not bringing juniors but now that established SFL clubs are messing with the junior system it is ok. go figure

Maybe it is time the SFL made the hard decisions and enforce that clubs field sides in every grade on a Saturday. If they can't they fall by the wayside.
Get the competition down to about 10 clubs and you don't have to worry about 2 divisions.

It's been said on here before, but i'm fairly certain that the SFL has no legal right to 'kick' a team or club out of the competition unless they fail to pay the league fee's.

Pretty sure that when we had this argument for the last few years that this issue has been brought up. So saying that the SFL should make 'hard' decisions and get rid of some of the clubs until we have around 10 in the SFL, is not feasable, as it legally cannot happen. The only way a club can leave the SFL is by choice.

Someone please correct me if im wrong, but pretty sure thats the way things go...

[fisho mcspaz]

I really don't understand why the SFL doesn't go back to two divs. Whenever I voice this opinion people say the same thing, 'Oh, so-and-so club (usually Marion or Flagstaff Hill) wouldn't like it.'

Absolute rubbish Fisho. The reason the 2 div thing never worked was because there was no promotion/relegation.

Not because some clubs 'didnt like it'

No-one likes to be in div 2, however it can be a way for the weaker senior sides to enjoy some success and have a realistic shot at finals/flag.

Remember Flaggies were in Div 2 for a few years before the whole comp went back to 1 div.

Fair enough - this was all before my time, I have no idea who played in what div for the most part. My point was that no one ever seemed to be able to give a good reason why the league wouldn't go back to two divs. Anyway, I think I've got my answer now. No promotion/relegation, sure, but isn't that symptomatic of the SFL's lack of organisation in general?

I just really hope that something concrete happens within the next couple of years to resolve the current situation - which is, in a nutshell, 30-40 goal margins between the top and bottom sides of the competition. Splitting the league into two divs is the most viable solution in my opinion. But something's got to happen. The bottom sides are giving their absolute all to keep on going, and I think there's a lot to admire there, but if the competition stays the way it is they'll just flicker out eventually - and there's no dignity in that.

[Rush a Point]

LION HEART

You and other posters miss the point for 2 years now posters have been complaining about E/Town not bringing juniors but now that established SFL clubs are messing with the junior system it is ok. go figure

Maybe it is time the SFL made the hard decisions and enforce that clubs field sides in every grade on a Saturday. If they can't they fall by the wayside.
Get the competition down to about 10 clubs and you don't have to worry about 2 divisions.

It's been said on here before, but i'm fairly certain that the SFL has no legal right to 'kick' a team or club out of the competition unless they fail to pay the league fee's.

Pretty sure that when we had this argument for the last few years that this issue has been brought up. So saying that the SFL should make 'hard' decisions and get rid of some of the clubs until we have around 10 in the SFL, is not feasable, as it legally cannot happen. The only way a club can leave the SFL is by choice.

Someone please correct me if im wrong, but pretty sure thats the way things go...

I am not saying to get rid of clubs directly. The SFL surely has the right to ensure all clubs fill all Saturday sides as part of a clubs registration. Having juniors playing away from the seniors destroys the fabric that the SFL is built upon, not mentioning the extra volunteers required and cost to have the juniors away from the rest of the club.

[AFLflyer]

I really don't understand why the SFL doesn't go back to two divs. Whenever I voice this opinion people say the same thing, 'Oh, so-and-so club (usually Marion or Flagstaff Hill) wouldn't like it.'

Absolute rubbish Fisho. The reason the 2 div thing never worked was because there was no promotion/relegation.

Not because some clubs 'didnt like it'

No-one likes to be in div 2, however it can be a way for the weaker senior sides to enjoy some success and have a realistic shot at finals/flag.

Remember Flaggies were in Div 2 for a few years before the whole comp went back to 1 div.

Fair enough - this was all before my time, I have no idea who played in what div for the most part. My point was that no one ever seemed to be able to give a good reason why the league wouldn't go back to two divs. Anyway, I think I've got my answer now. No promotion/relegation, sure, but isn't that symptomatic of the SFL's lack of organisation in general?

I just really hope that something concrete happens within the next couple of years to resolve the current situation - which is, in a nutshell, 30-40 goal margins between the top and bottom sides of the competition. Splitting the league into two divs is the most viable solution in my opinion. But something's got to happen. The bottom sides are giving their absolute all to keep on going, and I think there's a lot to admire there, but if the competition stays the way it is they'll just flicker out eventually - and there's no dignity in that.

good post fisho i agree! unfortunately too many hoops to jump through though.. if only it was that simple. something has to change for the better of the league. How can the pure novices of the comp expect to mix it with a premiership power house in m.vale, when they loose to the hackham easy beats!! no offence aldinga / hawks it's just the reality of the SFL. powerful top 6 with a poor bottom 4 and some in between.................. by the way, rodney fox where have you gone??

[the big bang]

I really don't understand why the SFL doesn't go back to two divs. Whenever I voice this opinion people say the same thing, 'Oh, so-and-so club (usually Marion or Flagstaff Hill) wouldn't like it.'

Absolute rubbish Fisho. The reason the 2 div thing never worked was because there was no promotion/relegation.

Not because some clubs 'didnt like it'

No-one likes to be in div 2, however it can be a way for the weaker senior sides to enjoy some success and have a realistic shot at finals/flag.

Remember Flaggies were in Div 2 for a few years before the whole comp went back to 1 div.

Fair enough - this was all before my time, I have no idea who played in what div for the most part. My point was that no one ever seemed to be able to give a good reason why the league wouldn't go back to two divs. Anyway, I think I've got my answer now. No promotion/relegation, sure, but isn't that symptomatic of the SFL's lack of organisation in general?

I just really hope that something concrete happens within the next couple of years to resolve the current situation - which is, in a nutshell, 30-40 goal margins between the top and bottom sides of the competition. Splitting the league into two divs is the most viable solution in my opinion. But something's got to happen. The bottom sides are giving their absolute all to keep on going, and I think there's a lot to admire there, but if the competition stays the way it is they'll just flicker out eventually - and there's no dignity in that.

good post fisho i agree! unfortunately too many hoops to jump through though.. if only it was that simple. something has to change for the better of the league. How can the pure novices of the comp expect to mix it with a premiership power house in m.vale, when they loose to the hackham easy beats!! no offence aldinga / hawks it's just the reality of the SFL. powerful top 6 with a poor bottom 4 and some in between.................. by the way, rodney fox where have you gone??

east-aldinga.

[ddonkey]

LION HEART

You and other posters miss the point for 2 years now posters have been complaining about E/Town not bringing juniors but now that established SFL clubs are messing with the junior system it is ok. go figure

Maybe it is time the SFL made the hard decisions and enforce that clubs field sides in every grade on a Saturday. If they can't they fall by the wayside.
Get the competition down to about 10 clubs and you don't have to worry about 2 divisions.

It's been said on here before, but i'm fairly certain that the SFL has no legal right to 'kick' a team or club out of the competition unless they fail to pay the league fee's.

Pretty sure that when we had this argument for the last few years that this issue has been brought up. So saying that the SFL should make 'hard' decisions and get rid of some of the clubs until we have around 10 in the SFL, is not feasable, as it legally cannot happen. The only way a club can leave the SFL is by choice.

Someone please correct me if im wrong, but pretty sure thats the way things go...

I am not saying to get rid of clubs directly. The SFL surely has the right to ensure all clubs fill all Saturday sides as part of a clubs registration. Having juniors playing away from the seniors destroys the fabric that the SFL is built upon, not mentioning the extra volunteers required and cost to have the juniors away from the rest of the club.

General,
I know that you read these posts. Surely you must see that something has to be done to improve things. Hanging out until all of these other clubs that you hope will come and join the SFL arrive and you can fulfill your dream of north and south conferences you may see the demise of the SFL before this happens. I'm not convinced that this is actually going to solve anything anyway. We may just end up with two crappy conferences. The SFL needs to impose standards. Instead of working to prop up and support the weaker teams, I think that it is about time that the SFL shows some respect to the clubs that are well run and strong. I think that it is about time that the SFL works towards encouraging excellence instead of mediocrity. The SFL should ensure that the very best competition is available to the the very best teams in the league. Those not up to the mark should not be playing with the big boys. They should go back to Division 2 until they have earned the right to play with the elite.

[AFLflyer]

East Aldinga???

[Off The Wall]

East Aldinga???

Wine country

[shoe boy]

East Aldinga???

That would be Willunga

[AFLflyer]

East Aldinga???

That would be Willunga

ah ok.

[BJ Ernest]

Hilarious. I know we are proud to be East-Aldinga, looking down the hill towards Shark Park. While we are at it we are also Mclaren South and Nth Mt Compass. Hopefully one day we do enough to be called Willunga again.

While we are on the topic of Aldinga, how will they go this year? Will there be any improvement as we move into the 2nd year with Brad Whyatt?

Will the big 4 (Brighton, Cove, Morphett Vale and Reynella) be challenged by any of the other sides this year? Valleys and Porties were the other 2 of the big 6 but they seem to have dropped away a little bit.

[rodney fox]

East Aldinga???

That would be Willunga

ah ok.

Yes after 15 years at Shark Park I have moved on. Have to say after my first official run last night you can see why East Aldinga are such a successful club.

It's good to be excited about playing footy again.

Miss you Big Bang

[asert]

I really don't understand why the SFL doesn't go back to two divs. Whenever I voice this opinion people say the same thing, 'Oh, so-and-so club (usually Marion or Flagstaff Hill) wouldn't like it.'

Absolute rubbish Fisho. The reason the 2 div thing never worked was because there was no promotion/relegation.

Not because some clubs 'didnt like it'

No-one likes to be in div 2, however it can be a way for the weaker senior sides to enjoy some success and have a realistic shot at finals/flag.

Remember Flaggies were in Div 2 for a few years before the whole comp went back to 1 div.

Fair enough - this was all before my time, I have no idea who played in what div for the most part. My point was that no one ever seemed to be able to give a good reason why the league wouldn't go back to two divs. Anyway, I think I've got my answer now. No promotion/relegation, sure, but isn't that symptomatic of the SFL's lack of organisation in general?

I just really hope that something concrete happens within the next couple of years to resolve the current situation - which is, in a nutshell, 30-40 goal margins between the top and bottom sides of the competition. Splitting the league into two divs is the most viable solution in my opinion. But something's got to happen. The bottom sides are giving their absolute all to keep on going, and I think there's a lot to admire there, but if the competition stays the way it is they'll just flicker out eventually - and there's no dignity in that.

Thing is fisho we finished 12th last year but beat hackham by 31 goals with a few out. You go to two divs and it will still happen.

[Bag The Points]

:lol: Hilarious. I know we are proud to be East-Aldinga, looking down the hill towards Shark Park. While we are at it we are also Mclaren South and Nth Mt Compass. Hopefully one day we do enough to be called Willunga again.

While we are on the topic of Aldinga, how will they go this year? Will there be any improvement as we move into the 2nd year with Brad Whyatt?

Will the big 4 (Brighton, Cove, Morphett Vale and Reynella) be challenged by any of the other sides this year? Valleys and Porties were the other 2 of the big 6 but they seem to have dropped away a little bit.

Easy to see this is a comment from outside our League. In case anyone's forgotten, Valleys played in the 2009 Prelims, so can't see how they can be classed as "dropping away" just yet.
Also, don't take any notice of the fact they have won only one out of three in their 20-20 Carnival --- the field is awesome, Porter's using the games for what they are (pre-season trials) and McKenzie hasn't pulled on the jumper yet. (they tell me he definitely is still a Viking)
As for Porties, they run into trouble every now and then but they are always back up with the elite very quickly. 2009 was a shocker for Port (mainly caused by injury, bad draws, and forces of nature) but I for one expect to see them pressing for Flag contention again very soon.