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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Splinter » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:06 pm

I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Half Back » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:09 pm

Not sure about Happy Valley but Edwardstown have retained 98% of last years players with also adding new players. Your information is wrong about Edwardstown but know of Happy Valley losing some players - not sure how many though![/quote]

I heard they picked up Tony Lynch.

Very handy player.[/quote]

Handy player yes but not worth the money that gets thrown to him by Matt Dent
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BIG RED DELICIOUS 2 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:17 pm

Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


:? No Chance..... Bring in 2 divs before this is seriously considered! Its a short term fix and possibly one that requires the $$$$ to spend. Maybe these clubs should be spending that extra effort and time in convincing the SFL to put in place the 2 Divisions so they may become more competitive.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Snaparazzi » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:00 pm

Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


Name them! I can hazard a guess at Aldinga and possibly Marion, maybe Morphie Parks/Lonsdale? Am i close?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Splinter » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:07 pm

Snaparazzi wrote:
Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


Name them! I can hazard a guess at Aldinga and possibly Marion, maybe Morphie Parks/Lonsdale? Am i close?


Pretty close Snapa - Hackham in the 4 and no Lonsdale. However, you would think that they would be asking too if or when they hear about it.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby watchdog » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:09 pm

Snaparazzi wrote:
Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


Name them! I can hazard a guess at Aldinga and possibly Marion, maybe Morphie Parks/Lonsdale? Am i close?



I have also heard a rumour that at least 2 of them clubs have been granted approval for those points by the SFL and now are awaiting approval by a higher authority possibly the CFL
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Snaparazzi » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:20 pm

watchdog wrote:
Snaparazzi wrote:
Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


Name them! I can hazard a guess at Aldinga and possibly Marion, maybe Morphie Parks/Lonsdale? Am i close?



I have also heard a rumour that at least 2 of them clubs have been granted approval for those points by the SFL and now are awaiting approval by a higher authority possibly the CFL


That will open up a can of worms if it goes through, something needs to be done with Aldinga and Hackham, seeing as 2 divs seems to be out of the equation, however if the likes of the Rams and Roos who have been finalists over the last few years are granted these approvals then you might as well throw the points system out the window. Will be interesting to hear the outcome.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby RFC 2010 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:01 pm

That will open up a can of worms if it goes through, something needs to be done with Aldinga and Hackham, seeing as 2 divs seems to be out of the equation, however if the likes of the Rams and Roos who have been finalists over the last few years are granted these approvals then you might as well throw the points system out the window. Will be interesting to hear the outcome.[/quote]

I am certain that Morphy Parks have been approved to receive additional points. Not sure how many though.

Don't be surprised if MP surge back up the ladder this year with extra points on board, along with big Seb and some of his mates who were elswehere last year
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Leo » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:24 pm

Was aware of these requests last week. I understand clubs were all sent emails regarding the requests and asked for input. I have not heard of any club (other than those who are requesting) supporting the idea.
I would understand the points system is there to keep the comp even but also to protect clubs from falling on their own sword by outlaying stacks of cash and getting into trouble down the track. A suburban football club is full of volunteers. They are passionate and love their club. Unfortunately, they are not always business minded when it comes to running a club. If the league was to give the power to such people, it might be of benefit to the club in the short term, but could be extremely dangerous in the long term. I would love to see these clubs become competetive, whether it 1 div or 2, but in my opinion, if they go down this path, 1 or more of these clubs wont be around in 5-7 years. 2 Divs for me.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:15 pm

RFC2010
That will open up a can of worms if it goes through, something needs to be done with Aldinga and Hackham, seeing as 2 divs seems to be out of the equation, however if the likes of the Rams and Roos who have been finalists over the last few years are granted these approvals then you might as well throw the points system out the window. Will be interesting to hear the outcome I am certain that Morphy Parks have been approved to receive additional points. Not sure how many though.

Don't be surprised if MP surge back up the ladder this year with extra points on board, along with big Seb and some of his mates who were elswehere last year


Aldinga and Hackham are at least working very hard to establish and maintain juniors.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Dazza44 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:23 am

Splinter wrote:I have just caught wind that four SFL clubs have gone to the SFL requesting additional APPS (player points) for the coming season and proceeding seasons. As we are all aware the current allocation is 15 points per team. One of the clubs in question has requested an additional 18 points, which would take their total points to 33!!!!

From what I have gathered, two of the clubs have been at the bottom of the ladder for a long time, and although they have put a lot of work into their juniors, they have been unable to win games at senior level and feel they need the extra points to become competitive.

The other two clubs (one of which have asked for the additional 18 points) I believe are known for the big spending and poor player retention. These two clubs believe the deserve the extra points due to the number of players who have left their club over the off season.

I was of the understanding that the top clubs would have less points than the lower clubs but that 15 was the maximum, i.e. Reynella won the flag last season so may only get 11 points this year. Is this in place?

I am all for the two very low sides to be given some advantage to become competitive again, but the other two in my opinion only have themselves to blame - they have paid their below par players far too much for far too long and now it is biting them in the a$$ because the players they have recruited have walked out. Maybe it is time for these two team to spend some time at the bottome and learn that success comes from building your juniors and a strong club culture that players want to stick around for.

You also have to think of the other teams hovering around the 8 who are doing the right thing and building most of their sides from their juniors. If these other clubs get the extra points, let's say the 33, and have no salary cap, they could potentially recruit 11 guns, that's half a team. so you would think this would make them more than competitive and put them right inside the 8.

Has anyone else got any info on this? and if so, are the SFL seriously considering it???


Here's a suggestion that came from an 'old head' around the comp tonight ...
if these clubs can afford to recruit players that warrant these sort of additional player points, maybe they should also have to pay the SFL for every additional point granted ??? Say a fee of $1,000 per point (which would be small $$ compareed to what the players cost per game) towards the SFL. This would give the SFL a handy budget to spend on junior development for those who actually bother to do that !!
... and by the way, this was a suggestion that was not directed in the least towards Aldinga & Hackham who we know are doing their best towards developng juniors and building their clubs.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby MR JUICY » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:35 am

I think you are definately right re the points applications and will be interesting to hear the outcomes of the requests. But for the narrow minded out look of saying that 2 clubs in particular are ignoring their junior developments well u must be not involved with those clubs or u are walking around with your head up ur clacker. Both clubs you are pointing this at work tirelessly with their juniors I know and have seen this for a fact and it is taking alot of time to get the numbers but huge efforts have been put in over a number of years! Sometimes hard work in this area does not get rewarded very quickly. Anyway just wanted to put that there cos it shits me when people throw this sort of bollocks around without any evidence other than the grades and quality of juniors they see on the saturday! Anyway rant done! And re the points this could start a late rush of applications for extra points if true that some have been approved! Interesting times!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bag The Points » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:59 am

Surely if one side gets 33 points ALL SIDES should have 33 points !!!!
Tell me if what I read hear is true ---- one side has asked for a HUGE advantage over the rest of the competition and the SFL has granted it :shock:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Splinter » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:57 am

Yep, looks like the SFL are all for granting these requests. Below is the email from the SFL to all other clubs:

Hackham FC have requested an additional 12 points in 2011, making it 27pts, reducing to 23 in 2012, 19 in 2013, and 15 in 2014.
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Aldinga FC - 2010 OUTS 19 Players transferred out of the club, of which 12 of those players were A Grade players, with average of 30 games these players had played for Aldinga FC The remainder were 6 junior & 1 B grade players.

Aldinga FC have now an opportunity to begin to become a competitive club in A grade however without the support with APPS extra points this club could still quite easily fold, this in itself would be a travesty of injustice to the Aldinga local area, to the Southern Football League and the SA Community Football League.

The Aldinga FC is requesting an additional 12 points above the 15 points allowable, and the Southern Football League Board of Directors support their case as they have also mapped out where they are likely to be with the APPS in 2011, 2012 and 2013.
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Marion FC - Marion FC application for additional APPS for season 2011 under exceptional circumstances due to the decimating loss of players from their A grade side at this stage 19 players, as listed on Marion FC letter.

Marion FC has struggled in fielding their B grade & A Grade side during 2010, in particular bringing back some retired 35 year olds for their B grade side to ensure they did not forfeit games during the 2010 season.
Further conversations with Steve Winter President Marion FC and Steve Keam Senior Coach, the Marion FC have requested an additional 18 points above the normal 15 points allocation, this may seem extremely high, but the fact is they have lost a full A grade side, and that their B grade side has been thin on the ground in 2010 and with no immediate relief from promoting under 18 players, it is essential for this club to survive for the additional points to be granted. The Marion FC in using the additional points would be looking to recruit 11 players at 3 points per player and to recruit a further 15 players at zero points, of which 4 to 5 of those players with zero points would be basically recruited to bolster the B grade side. The Directors believe that Marion FC is at the crossroads within their club, and its is quite possible that their senior sides could fold if not given the opportunity in being granted the additional 18 points.


The Marion FC have stated that in being granted the additional 18 points, they will in 2012 have the overall points reduced by (6) to 27, 2013 reduced by a further (6) to 21, and in 2014 have the points reduced back to the maximum of 15 points, this then leaves some leeway for injuries and small loss of players through natural attrition over the years from 2012 to 2014.

The SFL Board of Directors fully support Marion FC application due to exceptional circumstances for additional 18 points, and believe that their plan to reduce the points back to maximum allowed for the 2014 season, and that they are willing to continue work under the guidance of Steven Keam, that in particular their junior players and structure are developed to ensure the flow through to Senior ranks for the longevity of their club.
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Morphettville Park[b][/b] - OUTS 21, transfer in 2010 INS 27 and OUTS 19, this strongly displays the inability to hold recruits, factor in natural attrition with players being injured and retiring from the game, this is where Morphettville Park FC have been fully aware that this trend cannot continue some years ago and had worked strongly with the League to ensure with a long term plan to grow their junior ranks to support their senior in the long term.

The Southern Football League fully support[b] the application for exceptional circumstances of an additional 12 points and request the SA Community League support the application from Morphettville Park FC for the additional 12 points for 2011, reducing the additional points required to 9 in 2012, down to 6 additional points for the 2013 season, and 2014 the club would have reduced the requirement of additional points back to zero.. The SFL Directors believe that Morphettville Park FC are doing the extra yards to ensure their future and are not just asking for the additional points for the sake of such, and without the additional points the decline of this club will continue.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby watchdog » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:02 am

Splinter wrote:Yep, looks like the SFL are all for granting these requests. Below is the email from the SFL to all other clubs:

Hackham FC have requested an additional 12 points in 2011, making it 27pts, reducing to 23 in 2012, 19 in 2013, and 15 in 2014.
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Aldinga FC - 2010 OUTS 19 Players transferred out of the club, of which 12 of those players were A Grade players, with average of 30 games these players had played for Aldinga FC The remainder were 6 junior & 1 B grade players.

Aldinga FC have now an opportunity to begin to become a competitive club in A grade however without the support with APPS extra points this club could still quite easily fold, this in itself would be a travesty of injustice to the Aldinga local area, to the Southern Football League and the SA Community Football League.

The Aldinga FC is requesting an additional 12 points above the 15 points allowable, and the Southern Football League Board of Directors support their case as they have also mapped out where they are likely to be with the APPS in 2011, 2012 and 2013.
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Marion FC - Marion FC application for additional APPS for season 2011 under exceptional circumstances due to the decimating loss of players from their A grade side at this stage 19 players, as listed on Marion FC letter.

Marion FC has struggled in fielding their B grade & A Grade side during 2010, in particular bringing back some retired 35 year olds for their B grade side to ensure they did not forfeit games during the 2010 season.
Further conversations with Steve Winter President Marion FC and Steve Keam Senior Coach, the Marion FC have requested an additional 18 points above the normal 15 points allocation, this may seem extremely high, but the fact is they have lost a full A grade side, and that their B grade side has been thin on the ground in 2010 and with no immediate relief from promoting under 18 players, it is essential for this club to survive for the additional points to be granted. The Marion FC in using the additional points would be looking to recruit 11 players at 3 points per player and to recruit a further 15 players at zero points, of which 4 to 5 of those players with zero points would be basically recruited to bolster the B grade side. The Directors believe that Marion FC is at the crossroads within their club, and its is quite possible that their senior sides could fold if not given the opportunity in being granted the additional 18 points.


The Marion FC have stated that in being granted the additional 18 points, they will in 2012 have the overall points reduced by (6) to 27, 2013 reduced by a further (6) to 21, and in 2014 have the points reduced back to the maximum of 15 points, this then leaves some leeway for injuries and small loss of players through natural attrition over the years from 2012 to 2014.

The SFL Board of Directors fully support Marion FC application due to exceptional circumstances for additional 18 points, and believe that their plan to reduce the points back to maximum allowed for the 2014 season, and that they are willing to continue work under the guidance of Steven Keam, that in particular their junior players and structure are developed to ensure the flow through to Senior ranks for the longevity of their club.
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Morphettville Park[b][/b] - OUTS 21, transfer in 2010 INS 27 and OUTS 19, this strongly displays the inability to hold recruits, factor in natural attrition with players being injured and retiring from the game, this is where Morphettville Park FC have been fully aware that this trend cannot continue some years ago and had worked strongly with the League to ensure with a long term plan to grow their junior ranks to support their senior in the long term.

The Southern Football League fully support[b] the application for exceptional circumstances of an additional 12 points and request the SA Community League support the application from Morphettville Park FC for the additional 12 points for 2011, reducing the additional points required to 9 in 2012, down to 6 additional points for the 2013 season, and 2014 the club would have reduced the requirement of additional points back to zero.. The SFL Directors believe that Morphettville Park FC are doing the extra yards to ensure their future and are not just asking for the additional points for the sake of such, and without the additional points the decline of this club will continue.


Not sure why this is a surprise for some of you seriously involved in your clubs. I saw a letter or some SFL minutes (not sure which 1) from the end of last year stating about the SFL surporting extra points for certain teams and how many they applied for.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Specky McGee » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:08 am

You have got to be joking!!

Not only do the Marion's/Morphy Park's get additional points in 2011, they continue with this point advantage over the next couple of years.

With the spending ability of both Marion and Morphy Parks, I would expect these clubs to be very strong in the near future, whilst essentially kicking clubs who promote juniors and don't spend huge $$$ in the teeth.

I agree with the considerations given to Hackham and Aldinga as these two clubs have been struggling for a number of years, and we need to allow them some lee-way as to become at least competitive within our league.

For Morphy Parks to be granted their substantial allocation is a joke. Didn't they play A grade finals as late as 2009? The system of granting these clubs points because of a max exodus will not encourage them to change their ways, as they now know there is always a back-up system in place. It is well know that a lot of recruits freely chase the cash and it isn't uncommon to see names bob up at different clubs each year (Isn't that Cotsaris who played at Aldinga onto his 6th or 7th club in 6 or 7 years?!), so why is the SFL promoting this type of activity? You just need to look at the turnover of players from the big recruiting clubs in Marion/Morphy Parks compared to the clubs who carry a strong local influence (Morphett Vale, Flaggies/Cove, etc). This number would be staggering.

In the end, the only clubs that are being disadvantaged here are the ones who retain juniors and build up a strong club culture. A strong club culture will prevent a mass exodus of the like that is being witnessed at Marion and Morphy Parks, as players will be playing for the jumper and the club, not the $$$.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:19 am

All the extra points will serve to do is increase the spending within the league. As there is no Salary cap clubs will start spending big $$ which have a roll on effect.

I know this will start a wave of howls but maybe 2 divisions is the way to go and allow clubs to rebuild.

Another little bit of food for thought: We have 15 clubs feeding out of 1 little pond which is drying up. 10 to 15 years ago when clubs were strong we didn't have the amount of other sports and interests that are available now to younger players, along with the extended trading hours and requirements for work 7 days a week etc.

In order to survive maybe some amalgamations need to be considered. If not at Club level maybe at under age level clubs who are currently struggling could merge junior teams in order to get kids on the park?


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:30 am

An absolute disgrace,I am with you specky.
This gets down to MANAGMENT! so make poor decisions and expect an advantage as has been posted! Let's look at M/Vale with injuries cutting short carriers and loss of players they also have a strong argument.
Where do we stop!!!
I have always argued WHY a salary cap WHY a points system as this option makes a farce of the so called decision makers!!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Half Back » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:46 am

shoe boy wrote:An absolute disgrace,I am with you specky.
This gets down to MANAGMENT! so make poor decisions and expect an advantage as has been posted! Let's look at M/Vale with injuries cutting short carriers and loss of players they also have a strong argument.
Where do we stop!!!
I have always argued WHY a salary cap WHY a points system as this option makes a farce of the so called decision makers!!!


When was this all approved?
With Feb less than a week away and the season due to commence in about 10 weeks it doesnt leave the clubs long to use the additional points. Would have thought that any half decent recruit who warranted the extra points would have signed with other clubs.
Agree that it comes down to management and recruiting/paying the right players. If Marion/Morphies did this in the first instance perhaps they wouldnt be struggling with the mass exodous of players every year.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby the veteran » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:06 pm

Rewarding clubs who are not able top keep players but continue to flauntthe $$$$$. This is a problem that will continue Look at Christies, Port Noarlunga, Flagstaff Hill they will be next because they cannot manage the dollars to keep up with the top ones and have no reward for creating a strong junior base. Morphie parks played in finals two years ago and have jumped on the band wagon because they have the dollars to buy but know they will break the points.How about gettin rid of the point system all together. This will bring around the demise of some of these sides because the dollar will take over the club loyalty. Marion, Parks have dug this hole the others could have gone the same way but this has not a ounce of fairness in it at all.I ask what was the thought pattern of thSFL endorsing this and neglecting the ones who have done some very hard work.
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