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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Pommy Git » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:00 pm

words of wisdom wrote:South just dont change. Last year Fuller made his captain play ressies because he was going to miss a few weeks of preo, he was on his honeymoon. Yet i heard that Fuller missed the start of preo this year because he was off on a holiday. Its a cop out by saying theres no talent in the south zone or clubs arent pushing there players to south. Who continues to win the zone carnivals? Clubs would be stupid not to encourage players to reach the highest level.


Strange how you never get any positive feedback on these threads about south! :roll:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby MatteeG » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:08 pm

Pommy Git wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:South just dont change. Last year Fuller made his captain play ressies because he was going to miss a few weeks of preo, he was on his honeymoon. Yet i heard that Fuller missed the start of preo this year because he was off on a holiday. Its a cop out by saying theres no talent in the south zone or clubs arent pushing there players to south. Who continues to win the zone carnivals? Clubs would be stupid not to encourage players to reach the highest level.


Strange how you never get any positive feedback on these threads about south! :roll:


Cos they treat their players like dirt! We want Sideshow!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Mister Footy » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:14 pm

RFC 2010 wrote:
recruiter 10 wrote:Heard on the gossip vine that PIES evans sacked as coach in hills league :shock: 2 canteen volunteers told to stay home ;)


Heard a whisper that Big Dave was seen meeting with Matt Dent. Maybe looking for an Assistant's role at Valley?

Have you heard anything on those lines, Fly?


Think the talk is more about Evans referring players to Dent rather than acting as his assistant - he already has an assistant - guy who helped out at Cove last year - dont know his name
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby mirror#3 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:28 pm

Mister Footy wrote:
RFC 2010 wrote:
recruiter 10 wrote:Heard on the gossip vine that PIES evans sacked as coach in hills league :shock: 2 canteen volunteers told to stay home ;)


Heard a whisper that Big Dave was seen meeting with Matt Dent. Maybe looking for an Assistant's role at Valley?

Have you heard anything on those lines, Fly?


Think the talk is more about Evans referring players to Dent rather than acting as his assistant - he already has an assistant - guy who helped out at Cove last year - dont know his name


I believe that an Onkas midfielder with league experience will be signing on with Happy Valley in the coming days........
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby RFC 2010 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:47 pm

Mister Footy wrote:
RFC 2010 wrote:
recruiter 10 wrote:Heard on the gossip vine that PIES evans sacked as coach in hills league :shock: 2 canteen volunteers told to stay home ;)


Heard a whisper that Big Dave was seen meeting with Matt Dent. Maybe looking for an Assistant's role at Valley?

Have you heard anything on those lines, Fly?


Think the talk is more about Evans referring players to Dent rather than acting as his assistant - he already has an assistant - guy who helped out at Cove last year - dont know his name


Doesn't make sense. He got the arse from Onkas because he couldn't attract recruits. Why would players leave Onkas to go to Valley just because Dave put them in touch with Dent?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby One Eyed » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:54 pm

so evo got the " sack " purely because he couldnt attract recruits ??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby RFC 2010 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:38 pm

One Eyed wrote:so evo got the " sack " purely because he couldnt attract recruits ??


That's what I heard. It was more likely to have been the final straw or maybe just the excuse offered
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby darley16 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 pm

Typical ill-informed nonsense posted here about South Adelaide, as Fuller said they would love nothing more than filling the club with local lads just like the the many players he listed who have committed to play at the higher level with South and in turn have received great support and commitment from the club. Players are tested in many ways by all SANFL clubs towards their commitment to the rigors of SANFL, South and Fuller are asking no more or less than the others with Fuller being frustrated in seeing talented players who could improve both themselves as individuals and footballers failing the commitment test.
Do you honestly believe these SFL and GSFL players would get it any different at Central Districts with Roy Liard? I know of a Gawler talent who arrived late for Sunday morning training, once, and that was the end of that!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby asert » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:50 pm

Would love to see a sfl association game between south ressies and sfl. Reckon it would be a cracker
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:23 pm

darley16 wrote:Typical ill-informed nonsense posted here about South Adelaide, as Fuller said they would love nothing more than filling the club with local lads just like the the many players he listed who have committed to play at the higher level with South and in turn have received great support and commitment from the club. Players are tested in many ways by all SANFL clubs towards their commitment to the rigors of SANFL, South and Fuller are asking no more or less than the others with Fuller being frustrated in seeing talented players who could improve both themselves as individuals and footballers failing the commitment test.
Do you honestly believe these SFL and GSFL players would get it any different at Central Districts with Roy Liard? I know of a Gawler talent who arrived late for Sunday morning training, once, and that was the end of that!


I think enough posters on this forum have been through the South "system", I use that word loosely, and are in a good position to comment. So ill-informed is not the case.

Retaining juniors has been an issue for South since I can remember and I don't think it was that people weren't prepared to work. I would suggest that a lot of players get sick of being treated like mushrooms and seeing people not prepared to work but may show more potential being promoted ahead of the slightly less talented that are busting their guts.

I don't doubt that Roy Laird would demand the best from his players but I'm not sure you can compare the culture of a club like Centrals with the culture of a team, notice TEAM, like South Adelaide.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby MatteeG » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:35 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:I think enough posters on this forum have been through the South "system", I use that word loosely, and are in a good position to comment. So ill-informed is not the case.

Retaining juniors has been an issue for South since I can remember and I don't think it was that people weren't prepared to work. I would suggest that a lot of players get sick of being treated like mushrooms and seeing people not prepared to work but may show more potential being promoted ahead of the slightly less talented that are busting their guts.I don't doubt that Roy Laird would demand the best from his players but I'm not sure you can compare the culture of a club like Centrals with the culture of a team, notice TEAM, like South Adelaide.


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby neverwas neverwillbe » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:17 pm

Animus wrote:Hey Moe,

How is young Hockey settling in down there?

Is his brother going to play & did you get 1 or both the schneider boys from mclaren vale


"Brother" Hockey is staying at McLaren. E Schneider definately to the twisties (will be most missed) and the younger brother works in the mines so I doubt he'll even play anywhere.

Re the whole two Div thing, surely that it is a constitutional change. In some other leagues for a constitution change to occur a letter needs to be written/drafted and lodged prior to the AGM (usually 30 days and/or would be stated in the constitution) and backed by other clubs within the league. It then should be put to a vote at the AGM and the 'old guard' may not get much say in the matter. The proposing clubs will need to get together and nut out every fine detail as to how the two divs would run; such as how many teams per div, relegation and any new teams to the comp to come via the second div. The clubs will need to back each other can do this with no interference from the SFL panel........until it gets to the AGM.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby KEYDEFENDER » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:45 am

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
darley16 wrote:Typical ill-informed nonsense posted here about South Adelaide, as Fuller said they would love nothing more than filling the club with local lads just like the the many players he listed who have committed to play at the higher level with South and in turn have received great support and commitment from the club. Players are tested in many ways by all SANFL clubs towards their commitment to the rigors of SANFL, South and Fuller are asking no more or less than the others with Fuller being frustrated in seeing talented players who could improve both themselves as individuals and footballers failing the commitment test.
Do you honestly believe these SFL and GSFL players would get it any different at Central Districts with Roy Liard? I know of a Gawler talent who arrived late for Sunday morning training, once, and that was the end of that!


I think enough posters on this forum have been through the South "system", I use that word loosely, and are in a good position to comment. So ill-informed is not the case.

Retaining juniors has been an issue for South since I can remember and I don't think it was that people weren't prepared to work. I would suggest that a lot of players get sick of being treated like mushrooms and seeing people not prepared to work but may show more potential being promoted ahead of the slightly less talented that are busting their guts.

I don't doubt that Roy Laird would demand the best from his players but I'm not sure you can compare the culture of a club like Centrals with the culture of a team, notice TEAM, like South Adelaide.



I agree with ZC
I think Fuller has come in and tried to act firm to set a culture that he thinks is needed to succeded with out recognising the history of recruiting in this zone. Plenty people have been burnt over the years and that has left a bad taste with the sfl clubs and people in it.
Probably does not help that South have been a basket case for so long either... but there are plenty of good enough players to make the grade.

I dont agree with the comment so much about SFL throwing money and less commitments at the players.. Maybe if they looked at setting players up with employment through sponsors there would be some more loyalty by players to stick around.
Most blokes I would know with stick at it if there is a chance of wining than get and extra $100.

Side question- is that comment aimed at Luke Bowyd going back to Noarlunga?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby bar20 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:47 am

Heard a rumour that Marion Premiership player Matt Grayson is making a return to Footy with Morphett Vale
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:02 pm

COVE FOOTBALL CLUB

THE BLUES ARE COMING

Wednesday 23rd February 2011, Cove Will welcome to the Club Carlton Legends Anthony (KOUTA) Koutoufides and Wayne (Dominator) Johnston along with St kilda Champion Aussie Jones. The guys will train with our senior Squad before participating in a sportsmans night from 7.00 p.m.

Tickets available from the club $30 includes light supper. Drinks at bar prices.

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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:22 pm

HARDLY_SUPERIf you look at any club and see how many players drop out of footy between 14 and 18. Not many clubs turn a good number of their juniors into A grade footballers. It doesnt even seem to be club based. Could a contributing factor be at weaker clubs juniors get sick of losing and at clubs that are stronger with lots to choose from kids get sick of competing for a game each week?
I guess my point is im all for competition but are we going about Junior footy all wrong when it comes to the new Generation? Footy is a great sport for developement socially and personally but do we need to meet them half way?


WHEELS & DEALSJunior footy. This is where I get a bit pissed off by wankers saying that we don’t work hard enough on getting kids into our footy club. Give me a break; we work just as hard if not harder on trying to get kids to our club. 2 years ago we only had and under 8 and 10 team, last year we had 8’s, 10’s, 12’s and 14’s. The under 14’s even played finals in their first year. This year we will have under 16’s to add to that list. From what I have read in the last few pages people out there think we only spend money on our senior players and give nothing to our juniors. They could not be any more wrong. People say give them cheap subs or even free, funny we did that last year. This year I would say we have the cheapest subs in the SFL and we will keep trying to get kids to our club any way we can. If this means chucking in free shorts and socks and anything else we can think of then we will do it, if some of our sponsors want to pay for some of the kids subs well we will let them. There aren’t too many kids out there that play footy and aren’t involved in a club in some way, so if that’s where we have to get them from we will try our best. What we can offer kids is a game every week, not missing out every 2nd week or sitting on the bench for a half a game because that club has too many kids. All the clubs with dual teams good luck to you but if clubs like us, Marion, OSB,Aldinga and any other struggling club folds it may be a bit boring playing the same 4 teams all the time for a whole season.



CLUBS do a lot to develop kids personally and socially, however there are alot of kids that play footy who never get to learn the club culture because they bullied into playing school football. While this is great to have sport in schools it does nothing for football in general. Clubs are the backbone of sport in this country whether it be football/cricket/golf whatever. Without clubs we would not have the champions or the pathways to elite sport or community identity/belonging.

We are reading on this forum all the time and hearing around that Many community clubs are being deprived of their greatest assets: teenage players because of private schools who play interschool for bragging rights, but in essence do not give back to the community in general. Kids play with little or no support outside of maybe the 1st eighteen.

At the junior level we have clubs investing large amounts of money and time in junior development coaches, programs, structures. Then our kids get handed over to private school sport. They've been coached, trained and developed by us, and we get nothing in return. We in a lot of cases never see these kids again as they get lost to the sport. Club sport is very important for the community. It is about time that the powers to be at Elite level AFL/SANFL realised this and supported club programs and encouraged the schools to go and mke the move to mid week sport where they have a captive audience.

Private schools would probably not like to hear that the practice of them demanding that kids play school sport as well as study at a school creates a segregated community, it does nothing to improve a childs social skills. We will end up with sections of the community not community minded, and elitist attitude, when really there is nothing to be elitist about.

Glenelg and the SANFL have approacehed Cove to be involved in assisting with the re building of school football in our area, but at what cost to Cove and the community club is has established? All clubs and the league need to be proactive in lobbying the SANFL/AFL in getting a better deal for junior sport at club level.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby RFC 2010 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:19 pm

bar20 wrote:Heard a rumour that Marion Premiership player Matt Grayson is making a return to Footy with Morphett Vale


Do you know what Matt has been up to footy wise over the last few years. I haven't seen he or his older brother in the SFL for at least 5 years now.

Matt was always pretty scratchy with his skills but extremely hard at the footy. Not sure how he'd go if he hasn't played for a few years.

Would be 30 or just over by now
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Freo HeaveHo » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:51 am

KEYDEFENDER wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:
darley16 wrote:Typical ill-informed nonsense posted here about South Adelaide, as Fuller said they would love nothing more than filling the club with local lads just like the the many players he listed who have committed to play at the higher level with South and in turn have received great support and commitment from the club. Players are tested in many ways by all SANFL clubs towards their commitment to the rigors of SANFL, South and Fuller are asking no more or less than the others with Fuller being frustrated in seeing talented players who could improve both themselves as individuals and footballers failing the commitment test.
Do you honestly believe these SFL and GSFL players would get it any different at Central Districts with Roy Liard? I know of a Gawler talent who arrived late for Sunday morning training, once, and that was the end of that!


I think enough posters on this forum have been through the South "system", I use that word loosely, and are in a good position to comment. So ill-informed is not the case.

Retaining juniors has been an issue for South since I can remember and I don't think it was that people weren't prepared to work. I would suggest that a lot of players get sick of being treated like mushrooms and seeing people not prepared to work but may show more potential being promoted ahead of the slightly less talented that are busting their guts.

I don't doubt that Roy Laird would demand the best from his players but I'm not sure you can compare the culture of a club like Centrals with the culture of a team, notice TEAM, like South Adelaide.



I agree with ZC
I think Fuller has come in and tried to act firm to set a culture that he thinks is needed to succeded with out recognising the history of recruiting in this zone. Plenty people have been burnt over the years and that has left a bad taste with the sfl clubs and people in it.
Probably does not help that South have been a basket case for so long either... but there are plenty of good enough players to make the grade.

I dont agree with the comment so much about SFL throwing money and less commitments at the players.. Maybe if they looked at setting players up with employment through sponsors there would be some more loyalty by players to stick around
Think you will find Bowd had bout ten chances to many at noarlunga. Talented footballer but one loose individual. Good bloke mind you .
Most blokes I would know with stick at it if there is a chance of wining than get and extra $100.

Side question- is that comment aimed at Luke Bowyd going back to Noarlunga?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Freo HeaveHo » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:53 am

Whoops dunno what happened there ? I think you will find Bowd had ten chances too many at south . Talented footballer and ripper bloke but is one loose individual
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Mister Footy » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:51 pm

mirror#3 wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:
RFC 2010 wrote:
recruiter 10 wrote:Heard on the gossip vine that PIES evans sacked as coach in hills league :shock: 2 canteen volunteers told to stay home ;)


Heard a whisper that Big Dave was seen meeting with Matt Dent. Maybe looking for an Assistant's role at Valley?

Have you heard anything on those lines, Fly?


Think the talk is more about Evans referring players to Dent rather than acting as his assistant - he already has an assistant - guy who helped out at Cove last year - dont know his name


I believe that an Onkas midfielder with league experience will be signing on with Happy Valley in the coming days........


Some new names out at training last night - maybe this rumour about Onkas midfielders is right on the money
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