Southern Football League

[lion heart]

Simple solution -2 DIVISIONS

All teams from last years top 8 fielded a full deck (eg14,16,18,B,A) except Edwardstown. Make it a prerequisite that you must field all teams (or at least 4) to participate in the top division.

[vics01]

I forgot my last point in the rant.

In the second edition fixture.

In the Under 18 Cove and in the Under 14 Aldinga start the season with minus 2 points????

They are playing an extra game each, never seen such stupid programming.

[shoe boy]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

[Roo Ted]

This year's draw finally show that the SFL has lost the plot.

The Junior draw this year is an absolute disgrace. The clubs that are fielding full complements are being screwed over.

Without banging on too much about Cove's issues with the draw, 2 points come to mind.

EG: Round 7 Seniors at home v OSB. Juniors away at Brighton, this is a real whack on the financial bottom line, No BBQ in morning and no one at the footy in the afternoon.

Round 13 Seniors at M/Ville Park, Juniors programmed at home Cove v Morphett Vale: Go Figure that.

How about BDOS in round 20 Seniors at M/Vale 18's at Marion v F/Hill, 16's @ M/Vale, 14's Bye.

Why would you do this to two of the strongest clubs in the last 10 years, in fact two of only four clubs that have played in a GF in the last 6 years. Surely they and the football public deserve to see 2 great clubs go at it from dawn to dusk. not have byes and ring in's, especially when they both field full units.

I won't even go into how F/Hill 14's are being screwed over by having 7 away games in a row and Shoe Boy can fire up over Noarlunga's draw.

SFL are destroying the foundation that has made the comp great by splitting clubs, we lose the family spirit that has made the Comp strong..

If Clubs don't want to or can't field full units dont make the clubs that are suffer. Why should the not compliers be rewarded??

Under the current SFL regime the whole comp is being weakened, non achieves are being rewarded.

Make the clubs that are defying the rule comply or leave. 1 in particular is advertising that their juniors from 8 to 18 play Sunday comp. No mention of Saturday. If they want to play Sunday piXX off and join the SAAFL Juniors, yet they expect us all to bring our juniors to them and fund their club.

Sorry about the rant.

OK Vics01 we're not all blessed to be sitting on top of a hill with no other club for miles near us and an abundance of kids to pick from for both Saturday and Sunday. Yes we are advertising Sunday football but take out the 3 mini teams and it is really only 14s & 16s. Your damned if you do try and get juniors and your damned if you don't get juniors. Just ask Brighton how they are going with their Saturday U14 side. F-ck me if they can't field one where do the rest of us stand.

We don't ask for games to be programmed at our oval that comes from the SFL.

PS just on anomolies why do we have to pay at Cove to use the car park?!!!!

[Roo Ted]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

Move a motion at the next delegates meeting to go to 2 divisions!

[Spangy]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

I Agree every club should field u14 all the way through to A grade, it makes it a great family day from 8am to 5pm!... But how about capping the juniors at every club so only 1 junior team is allowed per grade, this would therfore allow other clubs to field juniors sides as they can't at the moment due to poor numbers, successful club & school footy on saturdays... I think it is a joke that some clubs can field 2 junior sides per grade & a club down the road can't even field 1 junior side, simply because they don't have the numbers as they aren't a stronger club.

Toughen up you princesses, parents with juniors need to stop making the kids life so easy by putting them into a stronger club just to have success.

Put a rule in place that excess juniors have to be spread around & don't whinge about the travelling - everyone has to do it!

The quality of the SFL league is falling & quickly - We would struggle to match the Division 2 SAAFL, even the HFL Central.. Fix it & Fix it quickly!

Put the rules in place, live by it & clubs will just have to toughen up & deal with it...

[Bag The Points]

I forgot my last point in the rant.

In the second edition fixture.

In the Under 18 Cove and in the Under 14 Aldinga start the season with minus 2 points????

They are playing an extra game each, never seen such stupid programming.

Is this serious ?
Surely there's a better way to do it than this. I know "Catchup games" can be messy, but we have six months to get them played.
"Minus points" are the unthinkable. How do we know they'd have got two points out of the "extra game" anyway, so they are being penalised a subtraction of what they may not have received anyway.

[the red baron]

In the Under 18 Cove and in the Under 14 Aldinga start the season with minus 2 points????

be a sad looking premiership table if these sides dont win a game!!!

[1983]

I am rather ignorant on the way that the SFL executive / leadership structure is set up but I have had many years on the committee at my local club. At home if a member of our club is not happy with the leadership of our exec's or leaders and feel they are not doing their job and believe that they can do a better job then that member can be voted in at the AGM or apply for the position in question. Is this not the case with the SFL exec's / leaders?

With the quality of the SFL slipping there must be members who are capable of taking on these league leadership roles and working to improve the quality of the SFL. I realise that a lot of passionate SFL members have already committed all their time to their local clubs, myself included, but surely there must be some CAPABLE people out there who are able to take on positions on the SFL board?

In saying this I have had the pleasure with working with some of the SFL board who have been quite helpfull so I am not painting them all with the same brush.

[Farva]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

I Agree every club should field u14 all the way through to A grade, it makes it a great family day from 8am to 5pm!... But how about capping the juniors at every club so only 1 junior team is allowed per grade, this would therfore allow other clubs to field juniors sides as they can't at the moment due to poor numbers, successful club & school footy on saturdays... I think it is a joke that some clubs can field 2 junior sides per grade & a club down the road can't even field 1 junior side, simply because they don't have the numbers as they aren't a stronger club.

Toughen up you princesses, parents with juniors need to stop making the kids life so easy by putting them into a stronger club just to have success.

Put a rule in place that excess juniors have to be spread around & don't whinge about the travelling - everyone has to do it!

The quality of the SFL league is falling & quickly - We would struggle to match the Division 2 SAAFL, even the HFL Central.. Fix it & Fix it quickly!

Put the rules in place, live by it & clubs will just have to toughen up & deal with it...

clubs like to have lots of kids so they can charge them 150 dollars or more for there subs and then have a lot more money to spend on the senior group. Happy Valley have more than 70 under 14s, that is a lot of money coming into a club

[Pommy Git]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

I Agree every club should field u14 all the way through to A grade, it makes it a great family day from 8am to 5pm!... But how about capping the juniors at every club so only 1 junior team is allowed per grade, this would therfore allow other clubs to field juniors sides as they can't at the moment due to poor numbers, successful club & school footy on saturdays... I think it is a joke that some clubs can field 2 junior sides per grade & a club down the road can't even field 1 junior side, simply because they don't have the numbers as they aren't a stronger club.

Toughen up you princesses, parents with juniors need to stop making the kids life so easy by putting them into a stronger club just to have success.

Put a rule in place that excess juniors have to be spread around & don't whinge about the travelling - everyone has to do it!

The quality of the SFL league is falling & quickly - We would struggle to match the Division 2 SAAFL, even the HFL Central.. Fix it & Fix it quickly!

Put the rules in place, live by it & clubs will just have to toughen up & deal with it...

The SFL tried that previously.
It doesn't work.
Kids have fathers, uncles, that have played for clubs and cousins and brothers who are currently playing at clubs. These kids obviously want to play at a particular club.
If they can't play for that club they won't play at all.
They will not go to another club.
Hackham had duel teams 10 or so years back. You have to work hard to get junior sides in place and then work hard to keep them there then work hard to get them through to seniors.
Parents also have a duty to place their child at a well run club where there is a future. Quite often it is the kids choice to play at a club with their mates.
The answer is not to try to drag down the top teams. The answer is for the lower clubs to work harder and smarter and raise their standards.

[vics01]

FARVA
clubs like to have lots of kids so they can charge them 150 dollars or more for there subs and then have a lot more money to spend on the senior group. Happy Valley have more than 70 under 14s, that is a lot of money coming into a club

FARVA that is one of the dumbest comments I have read. Clubs like to have kids so as to have them develop and grow up to become seniors to keep your club strong. We don't have kids to spend money on seniors, we have seen in recent years the value of that path.


To play in the SFL the more teams you have the more fees you pay, so in effect the kids fees pay the SFL affiliation fee umpire fees etc....

[recruiter 10]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

I Agree every club should field u14 all the way through to A grade, it makes it a great family day from 8am to 5pm!... But how about capping the juniors at every club so only 1 junior team is allowed per grade, this would therfore allow other clubs to field juniors sides as they can't at the moment due to poor numbers, successful club & school footy on saturdays... I think it is a joke that some clubs can field 2 junior sides per grade & a club down the road can't even field 1 junior side, simply because they don't have the numbers as they aren't a stronger club.

Toughen up you princesses, parents with juniors need to stop making the kids life so easy by putting them into a stronger club just to have success.

Put a rule in place that excess juniors have to be spread around & don't whinge about the travelling - everyone has to do it!

The quality of the SFL league is falling & quickly - We would struggle to match the Division 2 SAAFL, even the HFL Central.. Fix it & Fix it quickly!

Put the rules in place, live by it & clubs will just have to toughen up & deal with it...

[b]clubs like to have lots of kids so they can charge them 150 dollars or[/b] more for there subs and then have a lot more money to spend on the senior group. Happy Valley have more than 70 under 14s, that is a lot of money coming into a club

I thought $90 at Noarlunga for a under 16 was a bit steep oh well good work SB

[Farva]

Vice, I and many agree with all that you have said. I and my executive have real concerns with the direction the SFL executive is taking!!! You only had to listen to the stance the SFL junior executive have regarding a non compliance club .5 games of footy on a Sat has been the backbone of this comp with a family culture. Get it right or move on!!!!

I Agree every club should field u14 all the way through to A grade, it makes it a great family day from 8am to 5pm!... But how about capping the juniors at every club so only 1 junior team is allowed per grade, this would therfore allow other clubs to field juniors sides as they can't at the moment due to poor numbers, successful club & school footy on saturdays... I think it is a joke that some clubs can field 2 junior sides per grade & a club down the road can't even field 1 junior side, simply because they don't have the numbers as they aren't a stronger club.

Toughen up you princesses, parents with juniors need to stop making the kids life so easy by putting them into a stronger club just to have success.

Put a rule in place that excess juniors have to be spread around & don't whinge about the travelling - everyone has to do it!

The quality of the SFL league is falling & quickly - We would struggle to match the Division 2 SAAFL, even the HFL Central.. Fix it & Fix it quickly!

Put the rules in place, live by it & clubs will just have to toughen up & deal with it...

[b]clubs like to have lots of kids so they can charge them 150 dollars or[/b] more for there subs and then have a lot more money to spend on the senior group. Happy Valley have more than 70 under 14s, that is a lot of money coming into a club

I thought $90 at Noarlunga for a under 16 was a bit steep oh well good work SB

good on Noarlunga for only charging 90 dollars, that is probably half the reason there juniors have gone from strength to strength in the last few seasons.

[spanner]

The SFL tried that previously.
It doesn't work.
Kids have fathers, uncles, that have played for clubs and cousins and brothers who are currently playing at clubs. These kids obviously want to play at a particular club.
If they can't play for that club they won't play at all.
They will not go to another club.
Hackham had duel teams 10 or so years back. You have to work hard to get junior sides in place and then work hard to keep them there then work hard to get them through to seniors.
Parents also have a duty to place their child at a well run club where there is a future. Quite often it is the kids choice to play at a club with their mates.
The answer is not to try to drag down the top teams. The answer is for the lower clubs to work harder and smarter and raise their standards.

Well said Pommy

[WHEELS&DEALS]

The SFL tried that previously.
It doesn't work.
Kids have fathers, uncles, that have played for clubs and cousins and brothers who are currently playing at clubs. These kids obviously want to play at a particular club.
If they can't play for that club they won't play at all.
They will not go to another club.
Hackham had duel teams 10 or so years back. You have to work hard to get junior sides in place and then work hard to keep them there then work hard to get them through to seniors.
Parents also have a duty to place their child at a well run club where there is a future. Quite often it is the kids choice to play at a club with their mates.
The answer is not to try to drag down the top teams. The answer is for the lower clubs to work harder and smarter and raise their standards.

Well said Pommy

Can someone tell me which lower clubs aren't working hard (if not harder than the top teams) on getting there junior teams up and running????

[Half Back]

Can someone tell me which lower clubs aren't working hard (if not harder than the top teams) on getting there junior teams up and running????

can someone tell me when the topic of 2 divisions is going to stop being dredged up. it has all been said before. take your complaints to the SFL or get on the committee to try and change things. writing on this forum every couple of days about the pros and cons of 2 divisions isnt going to change anything.

[the big bang]

Can someone tell me which lower clubs aren't working hard (if not harder than the top teams) on getting there junior teams up and running????

can someone tell me when the topic of 2 divisions is going to stop being dredged up. it has all been said before. take your complaints to the SFL or get on the committee to try and change things. writing on this forum every couple of days about the pros and cons of 2 divisions isnt going to change anything.

[recruiter 10]

Can someone tell me which lower clubs aren't working hard (if not harder than the top teams) on getting there junior teams up and running????

can someone tell me when the topic of 2 divisions is going to stop being dredged up. it has all been said before. take your complaints to the SFL or get on the committee to try and change things. writing on this forum every couple of days about the pros and cons of 2 divisions isnt going to change anything.

OH Dear its the ol' problem The strong clubs dont think the others are worthy! and the not so strong are busting their blurter to firstly survive and secondly become attractive to increase player stocks in both juniors and seniors

[Pommy Git]

The SFL tried that previously.
It doesn't work.
Kids have fathers, uncles, that have played for clubs and cousins and brothers who are currently playing at clubs. These kids obviously want to play at a particular club.
If they can't play for that club they won't play at all.
They will not go to another club.
Hackham had duel teams 10 or so years back. You have to work hard to get junior sides in place and then work hard to keep them there then work hard to get them through to seniors.
Parents also have a duty to place their child at a well run club where there is a future. Quite often it is the kids choice to play at a club with their mates.
The answer is not to try to drag down the top teams. The answer is for the lower clubs to work harder and smarter and raise their standards.

Well said Pommy

Can someone tell me which lower clubs aren't working hard (if not harder than the top teams) on getting there junior teams up and running????

I also said smarter
The Sunday mini comp was started in 2000 for the clubs down the hill. they haven't capitalized on it.
Don't blame clubs that do things better than you. Learn from them and lift your game.