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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby johntheclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:36 pm

Ryan Giggs put in charge
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:55 pm

johntheclaret wrote:Ryan Giggs put in charge

Good move.
Hopefully Van Gaal or Klopp get the job
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:00 pm

While he was in no way up to the job, you have to feel a little sorry for him. Took real guts to take on the job that was always likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Kinda hope he can find a gig somewhere else and get a bit of success in the future but it almost feels like this could be something he'll struggle to put behind him.
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:16 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:While he was in no way up to the job, you have to feel a little sorry for him. Took real guts to take on the job that was always likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Kinda hope he can find a gig somewhere else and get a bit of success in the future but it almost feels like this could be something he'll struggle to put behind him.

I dont feel sorry for him one bit, he put his hand up for arguably the biggest job in world football knowing he wasnt up for it.
I do also blame Fergie and the club as everyone could see he is a mediocre coach.
Would be the perfect manager at a smaller middle of the road club with low expectations.
It was like giving a kid keys to the lolly shop, was always going to end in tears
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby JK » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:45 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:While he was in no way up to the job, you have to feel a little sorry for him. Took real guts to take on the job that was always likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Kinda hope he can find a gig somewhere else and get a bit of success in the future but it almost feels like this could be something he'll struggle to put behind him.

I dont feel sorry for him one bit, he put his hand up for arguably the biggest job in world football knowing he wasnt up for it.
I do also blame Fergie and the club as everyone could see he is a mediocre coach.
Would be the perfect manager at a smaller middle of the road club with low expectations.
It was like giving a kid keys to the lolly shop, was always going to end in tears


I agree with a lot of that, Everton was looking a perfect fit for him so understand why he was rated for his work there (even though Martinez has since come in and had them performing just as well if not better).

In fairness to Moyes, the United list he inherited was out of whack - It contained some blokes that were well past their used by date, and some that failed to put in (RVP specifically - Regardless of the performance of the manager, the player should be professional enough to contribute still).

They missed several targets in the transfer window and I don't think all of that can be blamed on Moyes.

That said, it did remind me a bit of Hodgsons time in charge at Liverpool which was just a nightmare in virtually every department.
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:51 pm

JK wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:While he was in no way up to the job, you have to feel a little sorry for him. Took real guts to take on the job that was always likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Kinda hope he can find a gig somewhere else and get a bit of success in the future but it almost feels like this could be something he'll struggle to put behind him.

I dont feel sorry for him one bit, he put his hand up for arguably the biggest job in world football knowing he wasnt up for it.
I do also blame Fergie and the club as everyone could see he is a mediocre coach.
Would be the perfect manager at a smaller middle of the road club with low expectations.
It was like giving a kid keys to the lolly shop, was always going to end in tears


I agree with a lot of that, Everton was looking a perfect fit for him so understand why he was rated for his work there (even though Martinez has since come in and had them performing just as well if not better).

In fairness to Moyes, the United list he inherited was out of whack - It contained some blokes that were well past their used by date, and some that failed to put in (RVP specifically - Regardless of the performance of the manager, the player should be professional enough to contribute still).

They missed several targets in the transfer window and I don't think all of that can be blamed on Moyes.

That said, it did remind me a bit of Hodgsons time in charge at Liverpool which was just a nightmare in virtually every department.

Good points, Moyes was terrible in the transfer market, failed to capture the big guns and ended up signing a dud bum buddy from his old club. His tactics were apalling and his team selection at times was staggering.
No co-incidence that Everton have their highest points tally in the EPL this year, perhaps Moyes was actually holding them back all those years.
Also dont think he was prepared for the size and stature of the club much like Hodgson.
Will just it down to a monumental cock up and move on.
The next manager needs to be a big name with experience at International level or a big club
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby JK » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Yep, I don't think you can afford to go in again with a manager having his first crack at leading a big club. SEN today said Ancelotti's name was being heavily linked - Would you be happy enough if he got the gig?
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:52 pm

JK wrote:Yep, I don't think you can afford to go in again with a manager having his first crack at leading a big club. SEN today said Ancelotti's name was being heavily linked - Would you be happy enough if he got the gig?

Yeah I wouldnt mind Ancelotti, have always rated him highly. He has managed several of the biggest clubs with the biggest ego's.
He still has another 2 years left at Madrid so cant see him leaving them especially when they will be fighting for trophies in Spain
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bully » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:40 pm

I feel for the fans that are mad over this at the moment. The millwall supporters were looking forward to games in the championship against the mancs in the season after next. Devastated for them :(
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EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:07 pm

Bully wrote:I feel for the fans that are mad over this at the moment. The millwall supporters were looking forward to games in the championship against the mancs in the season after next. Devastated for them :(

Millwall fans should be more concerned with keeping their side in the Championship lol
League One is looking good for the scumbags ATM
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby westozfalcon » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:42 pm

I haven't read any reports about prospective candidates but wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Laudrup in the frame for the United job.
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EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:29 pm

westozfalcon wrote:I haven't read any reports about prospective candidates but wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Laudrup in the frame for the United job.

I cant honestly see him being in the mix, nothing against him personally but he is still yet to manage a decent club. After the fiasco with Moyes id doubt United will go down that path again.
Here is my shortlist of candidates:
Louis Van Gaal: Has been linked with Spurs, current coach of Netherlands but is stepping down after WC, has managed big clubs such as Ajax, Bayern and Barca
Carlo Ancelotti: Has managed some of the biggest clubs in the World such as AC Milan and Real Madrid, still has 2 years to run at Madrid so not very likely of getting him.
Pep Guardiola: Has done it all, brilliant manager, only 1 year into a 3 year deal at Bayern who will probably win the CL, he aint leaving.
Jurgen Klopp, Done wonders at Borussia Dortmund but has already comitted to staying on there
Ryan Giggs, would love him to be in charge one day but cant see us appointing an untried manager
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby westozfalcon » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:52 pm

Jim05 wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:I haven't read any reports about prospective candidates but wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Laudrup in the frame for the United job.

I cant honestly see him being in the mix, nothing against him personally but he is still yet to manage a decent club. After the fiasco with Moyes id doubt United will go down that path again.
Here is my shortlist of candidates:
Louis Van Gaal: Has been linked with Spurs, current coach of Netherlands but is stepping down after WC, has managed big clubs such as Ajax, Bayern and Barca
Carlo Ancelotti: Has managed some of the biggest clubs in the World such as AC Milan and Real Madrid, still has 2 years to run at Madrid so not very likely of getting him.
Pep Guardiola: Has done it all, brilliant manager, only 1 year into a 3 year deal at Bayern who will probably win the CL, he aint leaving.
Jurgen Klopp, Done wonders at Borussia Dortmund but has already comitted to staying on there
Ryan Giggs, would love him to be in charge one day but cant see us appointing an untried manager


Klopp is the strongest possibility out of those four.

Louis Van Gaal is over sixty now and you'd have to consider him past his peak. He was a magnificent manager but his golden era with Ajax is getting on for 20 years ago.

I'd be stunned if Pep Guardiola would quit a star-studded club like Bayern after one season to move to England.

Giggs will command respect but would surely be a massive risk given his lack of managerial experience. You'd hate to see his image at United tainted by a premature foray into management.

As for Laudrup, he had Swansea ( a team much less gifted than United) being able to boss possession - even against the likes of Arsenal which is no mean feat. And, he has won a trophy! Wouldn't be the worst option IMO.
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby johntheclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:51 am

Zelezny Chucks wrote:While he was in no way up to the job, you have to feel a little sorry for him. Took real guts to take on the job that was always likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Kinda hope he can find a gig somewhere else and get a bit of success in the future but it almost feels like this could be something he'll struggle to put behind him.


I think the £6m payout will help
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bully » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:59 am

klopp has already said he doesn't want the job. Who would at the moment?

Heard Dalglish is available :D
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Jim05 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:16 am

Bully wrote:klopp has already said he doesn't want the job. Who would at the moment?

Heard Dalglish is available :D

Plenty would want the job, United could be back in the title as early as next season with the right manager and influx of players.
Klopp is an interesting one, keeps saying he is staying but his best players are jumping ship quickly with a couple headed to a strong Munich side and he has admitted he will have to sell more and spend next year rebuilding, maybe a new challenge would appeal to him
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bombers4EVA » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:07 am

If Man U are considered the best soccer club in the world. Then why is it extremely hard for the club to attract and sign big name players from all around the globe??
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bully » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:16 am

Jim05 wrote:Plenty would want the job, United could be back in the title as early as next season with the right manager and influx of players.
Klopp is an interesting one, keeps saying he is staying but his best players are jumping ship quickly with a couple headed to a strong Munich side and he has admitted he will have to sell more and spend next year rebuilding, maybe a new challenge would appeal to him


klopp would need at least a full season to get the mancs to play the way he wants them, which it seems, going on yesterdays headlines, the owners are not prepared to wait a full season. So why would he take the job? You are turning into a spud football club. You will by the looks change the manager every 6 months when things don't go right. Can see it coming with Arsenal when Wenger goes which rumours are he is going after the FA Cup final.
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bully » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:17 am

Bombers4EVA wrote:If Man U are considered the best soccer club in the world. Then why is it extremely hard for the club to attract and sign big name players from all around the globe??


money talks.
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Re: EPL Season 2013/2014

Postby Bombers4EVA » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:48 am

Bully wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:If Man U are considered the best soccer club in the world. Then why is it extremely hard for the club to attract and sign big name players from all around the globe??


money talks.

Yeah but Man U have extremely deep pockets. Are there other underlining issues that prevents star players signing with them??
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