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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:48 pm
by Trader
Q. wrote:
Trader wrote:
Q. wrote:If everyone catches it, a lot of people die.


Correct. And if we remain in lockdown for a long time, a lot of people die.
No good solution to this unfortunately.


From what?


Unemployment leads to heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and suicide.
Not to mention domestic violence, etc.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:55 pm
by Jim05
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:
locky801 wrote:Govt just found another 170 billion for those affected by employment losses etc


$1500 per fortnight to employers in a "Job keeper" package to help employers keep people employed so the transition back into the work force is easier and obviously eases the load on the Centrelink system.


Thats the one my work place has been waiting for.

Now at least we can do some concrete sums and determine the outcome for our small staff team.
businesses will be reimbursed in arrears.

So the onus is on employers to keep people on, and make the payments – and then the government, in May, will pay back the employer (back dated to today)

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:16 pm
by Q.
Jim05 wrote:
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:
locky801 wrote:Govt just found another 170 billion for those affected by employment losses etc


$1500 per fortnight to employers in a "Job keeper" package to help employers keep people employed so the transition back into the work force is easier and obviously eases the load on the Centrelink system.


Thats the one my work place has been waiting for.

Now at least we can do some concrete sums and determine the outcome for our small staff team.
businesses will be reimbursed in arrears.

So the onus is on employers to keep people on, and make the payments – and then the government, in May, will pay back the employer (back dated to today)


Anything for employees who have already been sacked?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:17 pm
by locky801
Bum Crack wrote:Is it true they're allowing social gatherings of 10 again and have scrapped the 2 person rule in SA?


Not scrapped, my understanding is just not being policed

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:24 pm
by Armchair expert
Morrison didn't find a money tree, he found a forest

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:29 pm
by Jim05
Once things start to return to some sort of normality I would think the GST would have to be increased

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:30 pm
by Q.
Trader wrote:
Q. wrote:
Trader wrote:
Q. wrote:If everyone catches it, a lot of people die.


Correct. And if we remain in lockdown for a long time, a lot of people die.
No good solution to this unfortunately.


From what?


Unemployment leads to heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and suicide.
Not to mention domestic violence, etc.


Is there any current modelling on this?

COVID-19 modelling modelling suggests going early & hard will save lives and help the economy, but unfortunately none of it factors in the above. It would be useful to cross compare.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:27 pm
by Brodlach
Q. wrote:
Brodlach wrote:IF we keep it to minimal/zero, the way it’s heading (fingers crossed) and the borders stay shut as a state are we able to reopen shops, sport etc?

Yanks and cruises :twisted:


My feeling is they need to now make testing available to anyone who presents with symptoms, rather than strictly to those who have been identified through contact tracing.

Maybe after all currently identified cases have recovered, no longer test positive and we have no new cases for a sustained period, do we then look at slowly relaxing some restrictions.

And keep the borders closed!

In SA we have conducted 26000 tests, in comparison Victoria 42000 and WA 13600. We have done a fair number of tests.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:15 pm
by LMA
Let's hope this guy isn't involved with finding a vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... rus-device

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:35 pm
by whufc
Q. wrote:
Trader wrote:
Q. wrote:If everyone catches it, a lot of people die.


Correct. And if we remain in lockdown for a long time, a lot of people die.
No good solution to this unfortunately.


From what?


Surely you can see what potential damage long term lockdown will do.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:00 pm
by JK
Q - You seem to be pretty well across the subject. I’m your esteemed opinion, when do you think the pubs might re-open?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:17 pm
by Spargo
LMA wrote:Let's hope this guy isn't involved with finding a vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... rus-device

I’d be willing to have a tenner on the fact he’s an safooty poster...

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:28 pm
by Footy Chick
Spargo wrote:
LMA wrote:Let's hope this guy isn't involved with finding a vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... rus-device

I’d be willing to have a tenner on the fact he’s an safooty poster...



*Not the same guy :lol:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:43 pm
by Q.
JK wrote:Q - You seem to be pretty well across the subject. I’m your esteemed opinion, when do you think the pubs might re-open?


In SA and based on sheer optimism rather than anything evidentiary - June-ish, to coincide with ammo footy restarting too :D

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:47 pm
by whufc
Q. wrote:
JK wrote:Q - You seem to be pretty well across the subject. I’m your esteemed opinion, when do you think the pubs might re-open?


In SA and based on sheer optimism rather than anything evidentiary - June-ish, to coincide with ammo footy restarting too :D


And the international borders......Christmas?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:53 pm
by Jim05
whufc wrote:
Q. wrote:
JK wrote:Q - You seem to be pretty well across the subject. I’m your esteemed opinion, when do you think the pubs might re-open?


In SA and based on sheer optimism rather than anything evidentiary - June-ish, to coincide with ammo footy restarting too :D


And the international borders......Christmas?
October/November IMO
Don’t see it being much earlier than that although International flights might ramp up again by July/August

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:48 pm
by Wedgie
This job keeper payment seems too good to be true.
I'll get paid $1500pf (gross) for doing nothing?
No income test, all this on top of my super and my missus income?
Am I missing something? :?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:00 pm
by Q.
Reading about CV tonight and came across news that Germany plans to begin widespread testing of citizens for presence of anti-bodies and issue 'immunity certificates' which would allow their work to be exempt from lockdown.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:23 pm
by whufc
Q. wrote:Reading about CV tonight and came across news that Germany plans to begin widespread testing of citizens for presence of anti-bodies and issue 'immunity certificates' which would allow their work to be exempt from lockdown.


This is what I don’t get, if this kind of system can be put in place shouldn’t we putting billions into this so those who can’t transmit the virus can continue living and earning a wage.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:56 pm
by LMA
Q. wrote:Reading about CV tonight and came across news that Germany plans to begin widespread testing of citizens for presence of anti-bodies and issue 'immunity certificates' which would allow their work to be exempt from lockdown.


Would of been better if South Africa come up with this :)