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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:39 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Christies beach coles - not many of us wearing masks

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:41 pm
by Armchair expert
Mask use has dropped 80% since Friday

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:43 pm
by Wedgie
Armchair expert wrote:Mask use has dropped 80% since Friday

None at the pub but did have to wear one in an uber.

Stupidly the pub I drink at is allowing people to sit at the bar which makes it nigh on impossible to socially distance when ordering a pint.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:10 pm
by Dutchy
Time for Sco-Mo and the Feds to take over the returning Aussies from OS, they need to find a safe solution otherwise we will always be on edge. Esp with things OS getting worse and worse.

Who cares what the quality of the accommodation is like? If they want to return to one of the safest places in the world they will do it.

"In the Northern Territory, COVID-19 quarantine takes place in a former 3000-bed mining camp, Howard Springs Accommodation Village." Only 1,000 in there at the moment.

Look what happened once Melbourne stopped taking flights in, we could all be like that if they have an effective national solution

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:33 pm
by Jimmy_041
A mate of mine was in Howard Springs
If the weather or boredom doesn’t get you, the cuisine will
This was his dinner one night

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:38 pm
by Wedgie
Jimmy_041 wrote:A mate of mine was in Howard Springs
If the weather or boredom doesn’t get you, the cuisine will
This was his dinner one night

Actually looks better than anything my mate got at the Stamford.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:43 pm
by Armchair expert
Vomit, there are heaps of prepackaged heat and eat frozen meals around these days that look way better than that.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:44 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Jimmy_041 wrote:A mate of mine was in Howard Springs
If the weather or boredom doesn’t get you, the cuisine will
This was his dinner one night
Yep, a mate of a mate confirmed the same thing at Howard Springs.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:55 pm
by Q.
Jim05 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Marshall and Spurrier have both stated that the quarantining of returning Aussies in Medi Hotels is high risk. They have also requested flights into Adelaide be suspended. It is also clear that SA's gold star is a little tarnished and we haven't implemented some of the key learnings from what happened in Victoria. Malinauskas is entitled to call for a suspension of the medi hotel program until they get it right. Marshall and Malinauskas are pretty well aligned on this issue.
Of course it’s high risk I just think that no system will be perfect no matter what.
The best system would be a purpose built facility with medical onsite and the staff to live on site and then undertake quarantine themselves but it’s very, very hard logistically to make this happen


Bang on the money. An effective government would find a way to implement this.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:01 pm
by Jimmy_041
Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Marshall and Spurrier have both stated that the quarantining of returning Aussies in Medi Hotels is high risk. They have also requested flights into Adelaide be suspended. It is also clear that SA's gold star is a little tarnished and we haven't implemented some of the key learnings from what happened in Victoria. Malinauskas is entitled to call for a suspension of the medi hotel program until they get it right. Marshall and Malinauskas are pretty well aligned on this issue.
Of course it’s high risk I just think that no system will be perfect no matter what.
The best system would be a purpose built facility with medical onsite and the staff to live on site and then undertake quarantine themselves but it’s very, very hard logistically to make this happen


Bang on the money. An effective government would find a way to implement this.


Just like they did with the boat people. Glad to see you’re onboard with it now

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:04 pm
by Bandit
Howard Springs NT is just one of many defence assets Australia has that could be used. There are heaps of remote area bases with landing strips but yes some have been associated with "boat people" in the past so it wont be a popular decision with some people (Greens etc) to use them again.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:08 pm
by heater31
Bandit wrote:Howard Springs NT is just one of many defence assets Australia has that could be used. There are heaps of remote area bases with landing strips but yes some have been associated with "boat people" in the past so it wont be a popular decision with some people (Greens etc) to use them again.
The Greens are flat out assembling the lynch mob for the SAS.....

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:25 pm
by Jimmy_041
Bandit wrote:Howard Springs NT is just one of many defence assets Australia has that could be used. There are heaps of remote area bases with landing strips but yes some have been associated with "boat people" in the past so it wont be a popular decision with some people (Greens etc) to use them again.


They went berserk when the Govt suggested using Christmas Island back in March
Now they’re complaining about the hotels

MDS

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:50 pm
by Jim05
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Marshall and Spurrier have both stated that the quarantining of returning Aussies in Medi Hotels is high risk. They have also requested flights into Adelaide be suspended. It is also clear that SA's gold star is a little tarnished and we haven't implemented some of the key learnings from what happened in Victoria. Malinauskas is entitled to call for a suspension of the medi hotel program until they get it right. Marshall and Malinauskas are pretty well aligned on this issue.
Of course it’s high risk I just think that no system will be perfect no matter what.
The best system would be a purpose built facility with medical onsite and the staff to live on site and then undertake quarantine themselves but it’s very, very hard logistically to make this happen


Bang on the money. An effective government would find a way to implement this.


Just like they did with the boat people. Glad to see you’re onboard with it now
And how do you get the passengers there?
No system is foolproof, only takes on careless bus driver or the like and it gets out again. I’m at the airport constantly when they arrive and with how much the passengers touch things I’m surprised there hasn’t been a transmission breakout from airport staff or security. Only a matter of time.
I think more importantly we should be going hammer and tongs at finding how the initial cleaner caught it and look at ways to prevent it happening again. Should cleaners and other staff wear full bio suits or better PPE when in the hotels rather just masks and gloves for example?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:00 pm
by Jimmy_041
I read a piece by some lady who said they were tested before getting on & wouldn’t be allowed on if positive.
She said the security this end was laughable

I thought it was pretty good when I came back from Sydney other than Jetstar didn’t check whether I had a permit to enter.
Mind you, the Jetstar staff at check in in Sydney didn’t care about much other than if your luggage was overweight

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:00 pm
by Wedgie
Speaking of the Federal Government, how is that wonderful Covid app going?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:04 pm
by Jim05
Jimmy_041 wrote:I read a piece by some lady who said they were tested before getting on & wouldn’t be allowed on if positive.
She said the security this end was laughable

I thought it was pretty good when I came back from Sydney other than Jetstar didn’t check whether I had a permit to enter.
Mind you, the Jetstar staff at check in in Sydney didn’t care about much other than if your luggage was overweight
It’s actually not the airline’s responsibility to check eligibility. The onus is on you to have the correct paperwork when you arrive. On our last flight back from Sydney with Qantas there were about a dozen folk who hadn’t done it and they simply filled out the form on arrival

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:15 pm
by locky801
Armchair expert wrote:Mask use has dropped 80% since Friday


Steven didnt have his on at McDonalds Trinity Gardens earlier

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:16 pm
by Jim05
locky801 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Mask use has dropped 80% since Friday


Steven didnt have his on at McDonalds Trinity Gardens earlier
Not mandatory so why should anyone expect the elderly and vulnerable?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:24 pm
by Wedgie
Jim05 wrote:
locky801 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Mask use has dropped 80% since Friday


Steven didnt have his on at McDonalds Trinity Gardens earlier
Not mandatory so why should anyone expect the elderly and vulnerable?

Because masks are mainly efficient at stopping transmitting the disease more than getting it.
Community spirit, looking after others and all that.