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Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:15 pm**

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Oh well, at least there's a gym that overlooks Prospect Oval.

How the hell would you know that?

It's where the Presidents Group meet up for the 2nd half of games, the equipment gets pushed out of the way while we drink and eat.

So you don't jump of the cross trainer to watch the 2nd half? I'm sure a pint would fit nicely in the Pringles holder.

Yeah, the mind's ticking over with ways to get around it. Not sure they could stop people going to the cricket club either.
Stupid part about it, 100 of us could sit in the RSL and watch it together with no maskss as we have a drinkbut we can't go outside and stand 50 metres apart with masks on.

I see the logic with most rules implemented but this one is difficult to work out.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:19 pm**

Booney wrote:
Trader wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it?
CDC: Yes, for the collective.
ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?
CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke?

Conspiracy theories aside, can someone respond to this part of the post.

I'm pro vaccines in general, but I'm not sold on getting the covid vaccine yet.

From what I can tell, given you can still catch and pass on covid, there doesn't appear to be a benefit to society overall of getting the vaccine.
(other than perhaps the argument that I am less likely to take up a hospital bed as I'm less likely to get seriously ill).

After 1 Pfizer you're something like 60% less likely to be hospitalised and after 2 Pfizer something like 92% less likely.

Can they fix dumb too?

They are personal benefits, not community. I was looking for social benefits.

A lot of people don't care about their personal health. Look at smoking, drinking, overeating, under exercising, etc.
If the only substantial benefit of the vaccine was personal, then I'm a big believer that everyone should have their own choice. IE: It doesn't impact you if I choose to get sick.

Thankfully Tipper explained a clear benefit from a society perspective.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:21 pm**

Booney wrote:After 1 Pfizer you're something like 60% less likely to be hospitalised and after 2 Pfizer something like 92% less likely.

Can they fix dumb too?

Harsh, was a reasonable question.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:42 pm**

Shane Warne, who is currently in England as the head coach of the London Spirit in the new Hundred competition has tested positive to COVID-19.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the- ... st-1271609

He is the second head coach the the Men's Hundred competition to test positive to COVID-19 during the tournament with Trent Rockets coach Andy Flower who returned a positive test.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:26 pm**

The Dark Knight wrote:Shane Warne, who is currently in England as the head coach of the London Spirit in the new Hundred competition has tested positive to COVID-19.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the- ... st-1271609

He is the second head coach the the Men's Hundred competition to test positive to COVID-19 during the tournament with Trent Rockets coach Andy Flower who returned a positive test.

Was he vaccinated?

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:34 pm**

The Bedge wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Shane Warne, who is currently in England as the head coach of the London Spirit in the new Hundred competition has tested positive to COVID-19.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the- ... st-1271609

He is the second head coach the the Men's Hundred competition to test positive to COVID-19 during the tournament with Trent Rockets coach Andy Flower who returned a positive test.

Was he vaccinated?

Yep, 2 doses of Pfizer.
Lucky, hate to think how crook he would be if he hadn't been! :shock:

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:45 pm**

Wedgie wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Shane Warne, who is currently in England as the head coach of the London Spirit in the new Hundred competition has tested positive to COVID-19.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the- ... st-1271609

He is the second head coach the the Men's Hundred competition to test positive to COVID-19 during the tournament with Trent Rockets coach Andy Flower who returned a positive test.

Was he vaccinated?

Yep, 2 doses of Pfizer.
Lucky, hate to think how crook he would be if he hadn't been!

Does this mean his side can continue to play while he isolates, or do they have to undergo COVID tests / isolation etc too?

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:46 pm**

Trader wrote:They are personal benefits, not community. I was looking for social benefits.

A lot of people don't care about their personal health. Look at smoking, drinking, overeating, under exercising, etc.
If the only substantial benefit of the vaccine was personal, then I'm a big believer that everyone should have their own choice. IE: It doesn't impact you if I choose to get sick.

Thankfully Tipper explained a clear benefit from a society perspective.

i should also add, the less people getting it, and the less time they are sick with it, the lower chances of another dangerous mutation getting into circulation.

the delta strain (and the others) all came about in infected people. the more people infected, the more chance there is of more mutations, that could either be milder, or worse than the current strains. they could also be more or less affected by the existing vaccines, more or less deadly etc.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:35 pm**

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Oh well, at least there's a gym that overlooks Prospect Oval.

How the hell would you know that?

His favourite machine is in there.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:37 pm**

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Oh well, at least there's a gym that overlooks Prospect Oval.

How the hell would you know that?

His favourite machine is in there.

Vending machine

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:40 pm**

Trader wrote:
They are personal benefits, not community. I was looking for social benefits.

A lot of people don't care about their personal health. Look at smoking, drinking, overeating, under exercising, etc.
If the only substantial benefit of the vaccine was personal, then I'm a big believer that everyone should have their own choice. IE: It doesn't impact you if I choose to get sick.

Thankfully Tipper explained a clear benefit from a society perspective.

My jab wasn't at you, by the way.

As Tipper explains, less people getting ill means the virus doesn't gain strength, it in fact dies a death and weakens along the way.

The more people getting less ill, less hospitalisations, means the economy can stay alive, lockdowns will be less likely.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:40 pm**

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Oh well, at least there's a gym that overlooks Prospect Oval.

How the hell would you know that?

His favourite machine is in there.

Vending machine

I set them up, you knock them down.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:50 pm**

Booney wrote:I set them up, you knock them down.

Bowling in partnerships. :lol:

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:16 pm**

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I set them up, you knock them down.

Bowling in partnerships.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlindDecimalH ... ricted.gif

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:37 pm**

amber_fluid wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I set them up, you knock them down.

Bowling in partnerships.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlindDecimalH ... ricted.gif

Nothing wrong with digging in the short one :lol:

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:40 pm**

2nd Pfizer jab this morning, so far so good. I was a bit ambivalent about getting the jab, but figured with the amount of chemicals I’ve had pumped through my body over the last decade what’s another one. Would prefer I was our household guinea pig anyway rather than the missus and kids.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:24 pm**

Booney wrote:My jab wasn't at you, by the way.

Don't worry, as someone in the under 40 bracket, I'm not eligible for the jab at the moment anyway!

Booney wrote:As Tipper explains, less people getting ill means the virus doesn't gain strength, it in fact dies a death and weakens along the way.

The more people getting less ill, less hospitalisations, means the economy can stay alive, lockdowns will be less likely.

I'm surprised the government isn't publicising this more.

All we are hearing is how it minimises how sick you get, but a lot of people aren't worried about getting sick. It's that aussie thing of thinking we are all 7 foot tall and bullet proof.

When all the health officers are standing there saying you'll still catch it, and still pass it on, people go why bother.

If they stood there and said some of you will catch it, but that's a minority, and that's the message they are driving home, I recon they'd get much better take up.

I get that it's not easy when there is a series of mis-information campaigns from all the various interest groups, but geez their messaging needs to get better.

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:31 pm**

am Bays wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Now I’m not going to deny this pandemic isn’t causing distress and effecting peoples mental health as it is a time of great stress and anxiety.

You dont think there is economic stress caused by covid? i would think thats the major cause at play here, we have been lucky here in SA with the lockdowns not going on for months but there is tstill small businesses going to the wall with the short lockdowns. Vic and NSW are not so lucky and now they have hit construction thats an enormous amount of sub contractors, contractors, self employed and casual workforce that is getting no income. How far do you think $600 goes in Sydney, hardly covers rent i would imagine.

As I said, I dont deny that this is time of great stress and hardship for the country as a whole and that this may be the "straw that breaks the camels back" for some people with underlying mental health issues.

However attributing those deaths to this virus is the same as contributing Covid to the deaths of all those with other comorbidities as you claimed needs to be cautioned agaisnt.

Which way do you want it?

So now youre admitting the numbers are fudged for the covid deaths?
Thank you

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:39 pm**

*sigh*

No I’m just apply Daisy logic to the stats, flawed isn’t it??

PS lockdowns work

Posted: **Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:17 pm**

Looks like the masks are now the new long term end game

I’m wearing mine as I should but boy I hate it!!

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