by auto » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:39 pm
by aceman » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:32 pm
automaticwicky wrote:Have been discussing this in our churches cricket forum. Para Districts and Adelaide Suburban are going pretty good by all reports, Churches and Great Southern not so good. Turf cricket has its place. District cricket IMO has way too many clubs (just my opinion) and hasnt produced enough state cricketers. So if you had a clean slate what would your structure of cricket in SA look like ???
by sherminator » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:08 pm
automaticwicky wrote:Have been discussing this in our churches cricket forum. Para Districts and Adelaide Suburban are going pretty good by all reports, Churches and Great Southern not so good. Turf cricket has its place. District cricket IMO has way too many clubs (just my opinion) and hasnt produced enough state cricketers. So if you had a clean slate what would your structure of cricket in SA look like ???
by bulldogproud2 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:15 am
by Executive Member » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:51 am
by aceman » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:19 pm
bulldogproud2 wrote:Hi Sherminator,
The East, West, North, South concept was just basically trials for the Redback squad. Matches were held before the season proper got underway. It really had nothing to do with District Cricket per se.
Not sure about the idea floated by another contributor about Port merging with either Woodville or West Torrens. Woodville and West Torrens have won three of the last four premierships. Not sure that either of these clubs would like the idea of merging. Prospect and Port Adelaide may be a more suitable merger.Cheers
by Goat Herder » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:24 pm
by Iron Fist » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:26 pm
by auto » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:14 pm
Goat Herder wrote:Spot on Executive Member, there are definitely too many teams in Grade cricket and the talent is diluted. Greg Chappell had it right when he was cricketing director (or whatever the position was called that he held with the SACA? ) in recommending a concentration of clubs according to zone. It effectively strengthens all grades and the best play against the best in A Grade and develop accordingly. It goes without saying that if you smack a ton in A Grade against an attack that contains players who otherwise should be playing B Grade as per their cricketing ability, you'll struggle when you come up against a Shield attack. A blueprint comp of this nature has to happen if the SACA are serious about improving our on-field performances in all forms, especially the 4 day format.
As for an amalgamation of all metro hard wicket comps, it will be demographically impossible. Not sure what the answer is.
by heater31 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:24 pm
Iron Fist wrote:I agree that there are to many clubs.
The most logical side to give the flick would be University as no juniors, like someone else said.
Port were in the dumps a few years back but have worked hard to get back and play some ok cricket. They are a few years from being a very good side IMO.
Prospect are struggling similar to how port was years ago. Think you can probably put East Torrens in the same category aswell.
No club will wilingly merge so it would have to be forced by SACA.
what could they come up with possibly??
Woodville West torrens (name says who merges)
Port Pirates (port and prospect)
Prospect Reds (prospect and east torrens)
Prospect Blacks (prospect and uni)
Western Warriors (port, woodville and West Torrens)
any more ideas???
by Goat Herder » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:20 pm
automaticwicky wrote:Goat Herder wrote:Spot on Executive Member, there are definitely too many teams in Grade cricket and the talent is diluted. Greg Chappell had it right when he was cricketing director (or whatever the position was called that he held with the SACA? ) in recommending a concentration of clubs according to zone. It effectively strengthens all grades and the best play against the best in A Grade and develop accordingly. It goes without saying that if you smack a ton in A Grade against an attack that contains players who otherwise should be playing B Grade as per their cricketing ability, you'll struggle when you come up against a Shield attack. A blueprint comp of this nature has to happen if the SACA are serious about improving our on-field performances in all forms, especially the 4 day format.
As for an amalgamation of all metro hard wicket comps, it will be demographically impossible. Not sure what the answer is.
As Pauline Hanson would say, "Please Explain".
by auto » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:35 pm
by geppscrossrams » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:18 pm
by Pidge » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:20 pm
geppscrossrams wrote:As for an amalgamation of all metro hard wicket comps, it will be demographically impossible. Not sure what the answer is.
by Iron Fist » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:05 pm
heater31 wrote:Iron Fist wrote:I agree that there are to many clubs.
The most logical side to give the flick would be University as no juniors, like someone else said.
Port were in the dumps a few years back but have worked hard to get back and play some ok cricket. They are a few years from being a very good side IMO.
Prospect are struggling similar to how port was years ago. Think you can probably put East Torrens in the same category aswell.
No club will wilingly merge so it would have to be forced by SACA.
what could they come up with possibly??
Woodville West torrens (name says who merges)
Port Pirates (port and prospect)
Prospect Reds (prospect and east torrens)
Prospect Blacks (prospect and uni)
Western Warriors (port, woodville and West Torrens)
any more ideas???
How about the SACA put some strict criteria that must be met? All clubs must demonstate how they must achieve this.
If they don't meet them then they are sent to the ATCA.
then each club is able to continue in their own right and keep all their history in tact
by Goat Herder » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:26 pm
by aceman » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:38 pm
Goat Herder wrote:Spot on Iron Fist. Port Adelaide had a whole stack of KPI's to meet when Robbie Christensen was in charge and they managed to tick all the required boxes somehow. Prospect are almost a mirror image of where the Magpies were when those demands were requested of them by the SACA and the same thing should happen to the Pirates now. Embarrassing low scores that Prospect are racking up are almost identical to Port 5yrs prior. Tim Ludeman has been a massive inclusion for Port and Weeksy has been a solid competitior with bat'n ball for quite a while now at Grade level. The emergence of a few younger lads who've come through the juniors will stand the club in good stead. Good to see my ol' mate Paul Finnie in the head coaching job again this year.
@ Auto - we've also had in in C&CCA in the past, with Para Vista having to travel to Blackwood to play, so it's nothing new to our comp either, but an amalgamation of ALL metro hard wicket comps (as stated) would be near-on impossible - and guaranteed to be a massive failure. Agreed though, a north & south comp may work. Lots of water to go under a lot of bridges before we'd ever get to that situation being a possibility.
by Goat Herder » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:02 pm
by heater31 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:29 pm
Iron Fist wrote:heater31 wrote:Iron Fist wrote:I agree that there are to many clubs.
The most logical side to give the flick would be University as no juniors, like someone else said.
Port were in the dumps a few years back but have worked hard to get back and play some ok cricket. They are a few years from being a very good side IMO.
Prospect are struggling similar to how port was years ago. Think you can probably put East Torrens in the same category aswell.
No club will wilingly merge so it would have to be forced by SACA.
what could they come up with possibly??
Woodville West torrens (name says who merges)
Port Pirates (port and prospect)
Prospect Reds (prospect and east torrens)
Prospect Blacks (prospect and uni)
Western Warriors (port, woodville and West Torrens)
any more ideas???
How about the SACA put some strict criteria that must be met? All clubs must demonstate how they must achieve this.
If they don't meet them then they are sent to the ATCA.
then each club is able to continue in their own right and keep all their history in tact
I beileve that was put to Port Adelaide a few years back and they completed the task.
Something similar could be put to a few different sides I think.
by smac » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:58 pm
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