Adelaide Plains Football League

[UNDERthePACK]

Nothing to come out of the meeting last night re: team sheets, not even a fine.......

You're kidding - have the league decided that there has been no breach of the rules? A player can play that does not appear on the team sheet? This is good news for all clubs, no more injury issues, when we are down on numbers for whatever reason the league is saying we can just put anyone on the field, even if they are not on the teamsheet - seriously when are these people that are charged with looking after the game at APFL level going to get it right?

What happened Jumbo. Who has been playing players not listed on a team sheet.

Saturday's game Virginia had Mark Nycamp (8) on the field but not on the team sheet. Team sheet had Matthew Nycamp (22) playing A's. Nycamp (8) kicked a goal which was given to (22), Nycamp (8) was interchanged a few times as well I understand.

Nycamp (8) was on the U17's team sheet and sat on the bench all game.

If the league takes no action then the question is - what is the point of the team sheet? What if (8) got reported? Who would have been suspended - (22)?? What if (8) got umpires votes? There are numerous other issues as well.

From my experience the team sheet is "god" - it has to be correct otherwise fines or worse are applicable. For the league to ignore the issue is typically weak and another example of a board that has lost direction.

Do you guys know the scene in Titanic when Kate Winslet is floating on the raft and holding the hand of Leonardi DiCaprio and then he lets go and she watches him just slip away. This is what is happening with Two Wells finals hopes, just slipping away and now they are trying to go the back door and put in a complaint about the team sheets not being correct, praying that the APFL committee had the bulls to strip the points away from Virginia. Unfortunately TW people that iceberg is just too big.

[bickle]

]Do you guys know the scene in Titanic when Kate Winslet is floating on the raft and holding the hand of Leonardi DiCaprio and then he lets go and she watches him just slip away. This is what is happening with Two Wells finals hopes, just slipping away and now they are trying to go the back door and put in a complaint about the team sheets not being correct, praying that the APFL committee had the bulls to strip the points away from Virginia. Unfortunately TW people that iceberg is just too big.[/quote]



no i dont know the scene UTP, cause i dont watch girly movies!

[BigV]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

[Mythical Creature]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

But if it stands it might make the other Nykamp brother qualified as I don't think he's played a lot this year, which is wrong to falsely qualify someone.

A couple of years ago Virginia got a fine for not including Musolino in the goal kickers against us, as they were trying to hide the fact that he played from Centrals.

[jumbo]

What happened Jumbo. Who has been playing players not listed on a team sheet.

Saturday's game Virginia had Mark Nycamp (8) on the field but not on the team sheet. Team sheet had Matthew Nycamp (22) playing A's. Nycamp (8) kicked a goal which was given to (22), Nycamp (8) was interchanged a few times as well I understand.

Nycamp (8) was on the U17's team sheet and sat on the bench all game.

If the league takes no action then the question is - what is the point of the team sheet? What if (8) got reported? Who would have been suspended - (22)?? What if (8) got umpires votes? There are numerous other issues as well.

From my experience the team sheet is "god" - it has to be correct otherwise fines or worse are applicable. For the league to ignore the issue is typically weak and another example of a board that has lost direction.

Do you guys know the scene in Titanic when Kate Winslet is floating on the raft and holding the hand of Leonardi DiCaprio and then he lets go and she watches him just slip away. This is what is happening with Two Wells finals hopes, just slipping away and now they are trying to go the back door and put in a complaint about the team sheets not being correct, praying that the APFL committee had the bulls to strip the points away from Virginia. Unfortunately TW people that iceberg is just too big.

you DH - it's already been to the board and they have ignored the error - read the post.

[mighty hounds]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

But if it stands it might make the other Nykamp brother qualified as I don't think he's played a lot this year, which is wrong to falsely qualify someone.

A couple of years ago Virginia got a fine for not including Musolino in the goal kickers against us, as they were trying to hide the fact that he played from Centrals.

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

[jumbo]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

You should open your eyes BigV - he was there on the bench (and on the U/17 team sheet).

It could have been an accident yes indeed, don't know how when the new computer based system makes it virtually impossible since all players are clearly identified.

The "mistake" was pointed out to 2 (possibly 3) directors at the game. You are spot on, the "blunder" had nothing to do with the 10 goal win of Virginia, however it opens a can of worms as to the validity or otherwise of the team sheet. If the league cares little about the accuracy of this important document, then why should the clubs? Why not play 22 or 23, just bring on the extra player - he is not on the sheet, but he is a registered player, seems like it is OK to do this now according to the APFL league!

[jumbo]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

But if it stands it might make the other Nykamp brother qualified as I don't think he's played a lot this year, which is wrong to falsely qualify someone.

A couple of years ago Virginia got a fine for not including Musolino in the goal kickers against us, as they were trying to hide the fact that he played from Centrals.

It has hairs on it MC and the ostrich's that run the league have just thrust their heads into the sand.

[Mythical Creature]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

But if it stands it might make the other Nykamp brother qualified as I don't think he's played a lot this year, which is wrong to falsely qualify someone.

A couple of years ago Virginia got a fine for not including Musolino in the goal kickers against us, as they were trying to hide the fact that he played from Centrals.

It has hairs on it MC and the ostrich's that run the league have just thrust their heads into the sand.

The correct player needs to be on the sheet and if this means adjusting it retrospectively then that should happen. The main issue I see is with qualification of players, especially this close to finals. A warning or a small fine would be an appropriate punishment.

On a side note I have been told by one of our club reps that no minutes for at least the past 2 Board meetings have been passed onto clubs (at least not United anyway).

[Hazbeen]

I am surprised that nobody has mentioned yet the fantastic milestone of Stuey Roberts playing his 400th Senior game on the weekend. What a great achievement and the team even won easily for him. Well done Plugga!

Yes, bloody well done old mate! nearing 25 years (and 25 pre-seasons) of dedication to the Pies in senior footy, still getting a kick too.

[jumbo]

The correct player needs to be on the sheet and if this means adjusting it retrospectively then that should happen. The main issue I see is with qualification of players, especially this close to finals. A warning or a small fine would be an appropriate punishment.

On a side note I have been told by one of our club reps that no minutes for at least the past 2 Board meetings have been passed onto clubs (at least not United anyway).

Agreed - to have the league ignore it just wrong - at the very least a fine is warranted.

Can't comment on the lack of minute distribution ...

[The Jack]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

But if it stands it might make the other Nykamp brother qualified as I don't think he's played a lot this year, which is wrong to falsely qualify someone.

A couple of years ago Virginia got a fine for not including Musolino in the goal kickers against us, as they were trying to hide the fact that he played from Centrals.

It has hairs on it MC and the ostrich's that run the league have just thrust their heads into the sand.

The correct player needs to be on the sheet and if this means adjusting it retrospectively then that should happen. The main issue I see is with qualification of players, especially this close to finals. A warning or a small fine would be an appropriate punishment.

On a side note I have been told by one of our club reps that no minutes for at least the past 2 Board meetings have been passed onto clubs (at least not United anyway).

United had a number 22 running around in the A's at Lochiel who wasn't on the team sheet...

[Fog Horn Leg Horn]

Two Wells took on Virginia in one of the most important local derbies in recent times on Saturday at Two Wells Oval. For the winner a place in the top 4 was at stake, while for the loser the road to September action was going to be tough. Both sides came into the big clash in red hot form. Two Wells were fresh from the week off and had won the their last three matches, while Virginia destroyed bottom placed Hamley Bridge by 157 points last week. The sides had meet twice so far this season with the ledger at 1-1, with the Rams winning a high scoring shoot out in Round 2, while the Roosters got the points in wet conditions in Round 8. Interestingly Virginia and Two Wells are the only two sides to defeat APFL pace setter Mallala so far this season. Virginia started the way they finished off against the Bombers last week kicking with a strong breeze to the cemetery end and having seven goals on the board to the Rooster one behind at quarter time. It was the home sides turn with the wind in the second quarter and it wasn't until Lee Allmond unloaded a huge 60 metre bomb from the centre sqaure which rolled through for a goal as the Roosters lifted to reply with quick goals deep into time on. The Rams could only manage one goal for the quarter from APFL leading goal kicker Brendon Niklaus as Virginia lead by 23 points at the main change. When Bryce Hart goaled on the left foot for the Roosters early in the third quarter it looked as we had a game on our hands but this would be the only goal Two Wells would score in the second half as Virginia ran out winners by 61 points. Young ruckman Ben Galic was best on ground taking many field marks, while often punching the ball many metres forward at the stopages to the advantage of the Rams dangerous midfield of Wilkey, Johnston and Howell along with Niklaus up forward the Rams could feature deep in September. Tallan Leigton was again best for Two Wells across the half backline and is having a great season. Virginia has the bye this week before a clash with Premier Mallala in Round 19, while Two Wells face Balaklava at home on Saturday.

[Fog Horn Leg Horn]

This week's winners

United v Mallala
Two Wells v Balaklava
Hamley Bridge v Hummocks-Watchman Eagles

[Swamp Donkey]

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

Last year maybe..

[mighty hounds]

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

Last year maybe..

why would they hide him last year? didnt he play the whole year at virginia? plus MC did say a few years ago

[Swamp Donkey]

I didnt see little Ranga sitting on the 17's bench on Saturday.

And the A Grade game Could it of been a simple mistake on who evers account? One being Mathew and the other Brother being Mark? Could it be possible that someone wrote the wrong name in by accident? I wouldnt think it was a deliberate attempt to confuse the two wells officials. Why wasnt this brought up at the game? i dont believe that this one team sheet blunder would of had anything to do with a ten goal win.

You should open your eyes BigV - he was there on the bench (and on the U/17 team sheet).

It could have been an accident yes indeed, don't know how when the new computer based system makes it virtually impossible since all players are clearly identified.

The "mistake" was pointed out to 2 (possibly 3) directors at the game. You are spot on, the "blunder" had nothing to do with the 10 goal win of Virginia, however it opens a can of worms as to the validity or otherwise of the team sheet. If the league cares little about the accuracy of this important document, then why should the clubs? Why not play 22 or 23, just bring on the extra player - he is not on the sheet, but he is a registered player, seems like it is OK to do this now according to the APFL league!

Everyone makes mistakes and I am sure Virginia would have been told and possibly warned about it happening again by someone. In reality its not season defining, provided Virginia are made aware of thier mistake and given it had no effect on the outcome of the match, I would hope that no further action is taken. Honest mistakes happen. The validility of the team sheet is important and given it is not a regular occurrence, shouldnt the league just treat it as an honest mistake and warn them against it happening again?

[Bob Loblaw]

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

Last year maybe..

why would they hide him last year? didnt he play the whole year at virginia? plus MC did say a few years ago

re-read MC's post, nothing to do with finals, they were just trying to hide him from Centrals

[Swamp Donkey]

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

Last year maybe..

why would they hide him last year? didnt he play the whole year at virginia? plus MC did say a few years ago

hmm good point, I'm not sure mh, it does seem a weird one! Has Musolino played any League games this season for Centrals?

[mighty hounds]

Must of been a while ago dont remember Virginia playing in many finals over the last 10 years

Last year maybe..

why would they hide him last year? didnt he play the whole year at virginia? plus MC did say a few years ago

hmm good point, I'm not sure mh, it does seem a weird one! Has Musolino played any League games this season for Centrals?

Im not to sure swamp. i have seen his name alot in the best for the ressies.