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Postby Leaping Lindner » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:54 pm

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Adelaide Hawk wrote:Good to see Bugsy in there LL, he gave the Hawks 3 years of great service. Pound for pound one of the best recruits ever.

Did he ever make a mistake? :?:


I would say the most underated SANFL recruit to the VFL in the 70's. Played 68 out of a possible 71 games in his three years with The Hawks.
I'd argue the only mistake he made was his timing in going. If he'd gone one year later and come back one year later he would have played in 2 :wink: other premiership sides.

We need someone to do a Westies side. There will be some talent there.
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Postby Wedgie » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:58 pm

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Leaping Lindner wrote:Included John Riley (he qualifies) didn't include Wayne Carey (he doesn't in my mind). Positions are odd for some players and only a rough idea.
Did JR play 1 game for Footscray- I know he went over, but court action forced him, home, but did he actually play? I nearly included him, but didn't- surprised you omitted Carey, as he was a North product.

Yes JR played 1 game for Footscray, it was in Round 1 of the VFL that year, I remember listening to the updates on the radio that day.
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:59 pm

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Leaping Lindner wrote:Included John Riley (he qualifies) didn't include Wayne Carey (he doesn't in my mind). Positions are odd for some players and only a rough idea.
Did JR play 1 game for Footscray? I nearly included him, but didn't- surprised you omitted Carey, as he was a North product.


He played the first round of 1984 without being cleared. North threatened hell and damnation on Footscray if he didn't come back.
If Carey had played even one league game with us I would have considered him. We got him as a 14 or 15 year old and he played Under 17s and Reserves with us. I suppose you could call him a North product but not having played league I passed.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:05 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:He played the first round of 1984 without being cleared. North threatened hell and damnation on Footscray if he didn't come back.
well, the cursing must have worked a treat- Footscray have not won a flag!
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Postby SimonH » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:25 pm

McAlmanac wrote:I can't believe the Norwood side named above doesn't have Graham Molloy.
You were dead right; that was one that just slipped my mind. Inserting Glenn Molloy into the side instead must have been a kind of Freudian slip. Now re-jigged with the 'correct' G. Molloy in there.
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Postby McAlmanac » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:44 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:We need someone to do a Westies side. There will be some talent there.

There surely is:

F: Mark Mickan (Bris, Adel) Tony Modra (Adel, Fre) Scott Welsh (NM, Adel)
HF: Adam Cooney (WB) Bruce Lindner (Gee, Adel) Mark Williams (Coll, Bris)
C: Grant Fielke (Coll, Adel) Robert Day (Haw) Kieran Sporn (Ess)
HB: Matthew Nicks (Syd) Jeff Bray (SM) Nathan D. Brown (Melb)
B: Tyson Edwards (Adel) Ben Rutten (Adel) Tony Burgess (Coll)
1R: Shaun Rehn (Adel, Haw) Mark Riciutto (Adel) Byron Schammer (Fre)
Int from: Don Roach (Haw) Nathan Eagleton (PA, WB) Peter Walsh (Melb, PA) Mark Weidemann (Coll) Glynn Hewitt (Rich) Daryl Hewitt (StK) Clayton Lamb (Adel) Luke Jericho (Adel) Lachlan Ross (Ess) Damian Murray(!) (NM)
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:23 pm

McAlmanac wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:We need someone to do a Westies side. There will be some talent there.

There surely is:

F: Mark Mickan (Bris, Adel) Tony Modra (Adel, Fre) Scott Welsh (NM, Adel)
HF: Adam Cooney (WB) Bruce Lindner (Gee, Adel) Mark Williams (Coll, Bris)
C: Grant Fielke (Coll, Adel) Robert Day (Haw) Kieran Sporn (Ess)
HB: Matthew Nicks (Syd) Jeff Bray (SM) Nathan D. Brown (Melb)
B: Tyson Edwards (Adel) Ben Rutten (Adel) Tony Burgess (Coll)
1R: Shaun Rehn (Adel, Haw) Mark Riciutto (Adel) Byron Schammer (Fre)
Int from: Don Roach (Haw) Nathan Eagleton (PA, WB) Peter Walsh (Melb, PA) Mark Weidemann (Coll) Glynn Hewitt (Rich) Daryl Hewitt (StK) Clayton Lamb (Adel) Luke Jericho (Adel) Lachlan Ross (Ess) Damian Murray(!) (NM)


Depending on how far back this exercise is going you might want to slot Bernie Smith into a Back Pocket. Pretty confident he could replace Tony Burgess.
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Postby Stevie_K » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:18 pm

Give it a few years and slip Sammy Fisher in there
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Postby McAlmanac » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:50 pm

Stevie_K wrote:Give it a few years and slip Sammy Fisher in there

He'd be in there now - my oversight!
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:56 am

Off the top of my head...

F: Gavin Wanganeen (Essendon/Port), Scott Hodges (Adelaide), Tommy Quinn (Geelong),
HF: Mark Williams (Collingwood/Brisbane), Warren Tredrea (Port), Peter Burgoyne (Port)
C: Bruce Abernethy (North Melb/Coll/Adel), Russell Ebert (North Melbourne), Greg Anderson (Essendon/Adelaide)
HB: Andrew McLeod (Adelaide), Greg Phillips (Collingwood), Graham Johncock (Adelaide)
B: Michael Wilson (Port), Darryl Wakelin (St. Kilda/Port), Darren Mead (Port)
R: David Hynes (West Coast/Fremantle), Nathan Buckley (Brisbane/Collingwood), Craig Bradley (Carlton)
Int: Shaun Burgoyne (Port), Byron Pickett (North Melb/Port/Melb), Martin Leslie (Brisbane)
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Postby am Bays » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:08 am

Mark Williams @ Port Adelaide??????, he did his junior footy at Westies, League debut 'n all.....

okay then chuck Clayton Lamb and John Fidge into our lot......
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:50 am

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Mark Williams @ Port Adelaide??????, he did his junior footy at Westies, League debut 'n all.....


Might have something to do with the two premierships (1979, 1980) and All-Australian guernsey (1980) he won in his first stint at Alberton...
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Postby am Bays » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:05 am

Magpiespower wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Mark Williams @ Port Adelaide??????, he did his junior footy at Westies, League debut 'n all.....


Might have something to do with the two premierships (1979, 1980) and All-Australian guernsey (1980) he won in his first stint at Alberton...


After coming from Westies.....as I said means we can claim C Lamb (got recruited from us not West Adelaide to to the Crows)
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Postby blueandwhite » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:53 am

The Panthers as follows;

forwards Mark Bickley(ad) Brendan Lade(PP) Dean Brogan(PP)

h/forwards Alwyn Davey (Ess) Luke Darcy(WB) Ryan Griffen(WB)

centres Clay Sampson (Mel,Rich,AD) Mark West (WB) Kym Koster(WB,AD)

H/Backs Michael Doughty (AD) Andy Bennett (H) Darren Kappler(H,SS)

Backs Jason Torney (R,AD) Nigel Smart (AD) Robin White(M)


Ruck Matthew Clarke (Bris,AD,StK) , Simon Goodwin (AD), M Naley (Carl)

I/C P McIntyre (AD), D Hewitt (STk), G Hewitt(R), A Brockhurst(Fitz)

not a bad side but a touch tall.
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:37 am

Reakon you could sneak Jim Deane in there.

Played two years (about 33 games) for Richmond in the mid-1950s...
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Postby smac » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:53 pm

D.Hart came from North did he?

Will try and get a Dogs side together, but I feel it will be inferior to most named already.
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Postby blueandwhite » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:28 pm

correct Jim Deane, should be in there.....
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:29 pm

smac wrote:D.Hart came from North did he?

Will try and get a Dogs side together, but I feel it will be inferior to most named already.


You're right he started further North than Prospect. Take him and I'll throw Troy Lehmann in the forward pocket! After all the lad kicked the "Goal of the Century" at Norwood Oval in 1990! 8)

Also just as the final piece of icing on the cake I'm making Bob Hammond North's coach!!!
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Postby Interceptor » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:02 pm

SimonH wrote:I've taken the more difficult route of only including Norwood-bred players who subsequently played VFL/AFL. I've even excluded Matt Primus as a native Victorian, although he could arguably technically qualify as he played a full season for Norwood before playing his first AFL game. (Phil Carman was also a native Victorian, but played 4 or so seasons for us, which has to be enough in anyone's language, and unlike Primus was never on a senior VFL/AFL team list before playing for Norwood.)

FF: Stephen Rowe, Phil Carman, Steven Pitt
HF: Roger James, Matthew Robran, Graham Molloy
C: Tony Francis, Scott Burns, Nic Fosdike
HB: Jared Crouch, Craig Kelly, Martin Pike
B: Michael Taylor, Tom Warhurst, Nathan Bassett
R: David Pittman, Keith Thomas, Jack Oatey*
Int: Brett James, Rodney Maynard, Jonathon Robran
Emg include: Glenn Molloy, Tom Harley, Adam Heuskes, Neil Hein, Grant Tanner, Jonathon Ross, Stephen Patterson, Scott Bassett, James Gallagher, Donald Dickie, Stephen Daniels, Andrew Pascoe, Justin Staritski, David Gallagher, Cristian O'Brian, Brenton Klaebe, Sam Smart (!), Scott Robinson, Nathan Irvin (1 AFL game!), James Weeding**, Mark Jones**, James Pyke** plus a clutch of young'uns still making their mark in AFL. There might be some geniuses that I've missed, who others recall.

* Oatey played just a token number of games for Sth Melb because he was stationed in Melbourne on national service in WW2. Still technically qualifies!
** Definitely drafted by VFL clubs, but I have no idea whether they ever played a senior game (or even went over to Melbourne).

A very good team generally, with an absolute dream backline. Even an AA player in Heuskes, the current Geelong captain in Harley, and one of my all-time faves in Rod Maynard, couldn't force their way into it. Not 100% happy with the forward structure; Andrew Pascoe and Jonathon Ross could both conceivably have claims on FF, but the players selected all demanded a spot in the 18 IMO, even though there isn't a specialist FF among them. Anyhoo, with that backline, the forwards would only need to kick 10 goals and we'd win every game!

A pretty decent side there and there's no problem with Fabulous Phil being an inclusion, especially at FF. He kicked something like 14 on debut with Collingwood!
The backs are good, but the centreline is looking a little average.
I think Graham Molloy would be better placed in the centre or a wing, but I'm not sure.

Another player not listed is David Palm. Went to Richmond in the 70s and might've been a defender I think.
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Postby smac » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:24 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
smac wrote:D.Hart came from North did he?

Will try and get a Dogs side together, but I feel it will be inferior to most named already.


You're right he started further North than Prospect. Take him and I'll throw Troy Lehmann in the forward pocket! After all the lad kicked the "Goal of the Century" at Norwood Oval in 1990! 8)

Also just as the final piece of icing on the cake I'm making Bob Hammond North's coach!!!
D.Hart wasn't in the running for coach? :shock:
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