Best 21 that played in the vfl/afl from your club!

[SimonH]

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C: Tony Francis, Scott Burns, Nic Fosdike
A pretty decent side there and there's no problem with Fabulous Phil being an inclusion, especially at FF. He kicked something like 14 on debut with Collingwood!
The backs are good, but the centreline is looking a little average.
I think Graham Molloy would be better placed in the centre or a wing, but I'm not sure.

Another player not listed is David Palm. Went to Richmond in the 70s and might've been a defender I think.

Never actually saw Graham Molloy play live, so I'll take your word for it re: where he should be. I'm a big rap for all 3 of the centreline players, though, all of whom are probably underrated-- in particular, I think that Scott Burns is one of the most consistent performers that Norwood's produced in the last 20 years. You could make an argument that one of Francis or Fosdike gives way to Grant Tanner so we have a tall winger, though.

Just realised that I've arguably cheated by including Stephen Rowe (who played senior WAFL before coming to Norwood), too. No matter.

If this post which suggests that David Palm played for Richmond from 1983-88 was right, I did see Palm play for Norwood. Probably on multiple occasions. Unfortunately, I've completely forgotten him! Did he have a moustache? He might also be disqualified, as apparently he originally hailed from West Perth.

[MagareyLegend]

So who was THE BEST player from the SANFL to start his career in SA and go over to Victoria.
I nominate Malcolm Blight but I haven't really thought about it too much.
Should this be a new thread perhaps?

[McAlmanac]

So who was THE BEST player from the SANFL to start his career in SA and go over to Victoria.
I nominate Malcolm Blight but I haven't really thought about it too much.
Should this be a new thread perhaps?

No argument from me there.

More delicious would be a WORST player to cross the border thread. The export who was a dud and should never have gone.

[MagareyLegend]

Yep worst a lot harder than best.
Re Blight you would be a bit biased though.

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

So who was THE BEST player from the SANFL to start his career in SA and go over to Victoria.
I nominate Malcolm Blight but I haven't really thought about it too much.
Should this be a new thread perhaps?

Malcom Blight, both a Magarey & Brownlow Medal winner...
What about 'The Rat' Johnny Platten?
or (N.T. really) 'FIGJAM' Nathan Buckley?
The two of them also share the same honours!

My vote however goes to the big three who crossed the border back in 1986...
Stephen Kernahan, Peter Motley & Craig Bradley (sadly all Carlton bound!)
John Platten & Tony McGuinness made their VFL debuts that year as well!

[MagareyLegend]

Points taken Snaggle but Rats Toss Bags' credentials far exceed those you mentioned.
Platten has not kicked a screwy from 300 metres out to win the game after the siren.
Buckley has not played in an AFL premiership.
Sticks, Mots, Bradley & Macca have not done one or both of either play in an AFL premiership or win a Brownlow.

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

Points taken Snaggle but Rats Toss Bags' credentials far exceed those you mentioned.
Platten has not kicked a screwy from 300 metres out to win the game after the siren.
Buckley has not played in an AFL premiership.
Sticks, Mots, Bradley & Macca have not done one or both of either play in an AFL premiership or win a Brownlow.

Maybe so, but the players who left the SANFL after the 1985 Season (specially the Carlton Three)
are truly some of the greatest ever in the history of the game!
As for 'The Rat'... The only thing that eluded him in his illustrious career was winning a Premiership with Centrals!

[TroyGFC]

Geez I hate to agree with STT but the 3 players to Carltun were definitely the greatest our state produced.

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

Geez I hate to agree with STT but the 3 players to Carltun were definitely the greatest our state produced.

What would you f'n know spaz?
Get a dog up ya!

[Wedgie]

Wayne Carey was easily the best football player to come from an SANFL club to the VFL/AFL.

[GWW]

Mark Williams @ Port Adelaide??????, he did his junior footy at Westies, League debut 'n all.....

okay then chuck Clayton Lamb and John Fidge into our lot......

You've got a (small) point there TM, but i think M Williams' situation was a bit different. His heart was always with Port Adelaide. Apparently there was an agreement in Fos' contract when he took up the coaching job with West in early 70's, that the lads (Mark and Stephen) be clared to Port once his coaching responsibilities with the Wolves/Bloods (or whatever they were called at the time) were finished.

I neglected Mark Williams in the side that i picked, but that was pure oversight. On reflection i would certainly have him in my team for this thread.

It could probably be argued that Clayton Lamb was already an established player at WA before he moved to the Bays (he only went there to play finals whereas Williams went to Port through sheer love of the club), whereas i'd say that Choco's moved to Port considerably improved him as a footballer, to the stage where he was capable of becoming a high class VFL player with Collingwood.

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

Geez I hate to agree with STT

Yeah, coz I like Aussie Rulz for the sport!
...Not the merchandise!

[GWW]

Off the top of my head...

F: Gavin Wanganeen (Essendon/Port), Scott Hodges (Adelaide), Tommy Quinn (Geelong),
HF: Mark Williams (Collingwood/Brisbane), Warren Tredrea (Port), Peter Burgoyne (Port)
C: Bruce Abernethy (North Melb/Coll/Adel), Russell Ebert (North Melbourne), Greg Anderson (Essendon/Adelaide)
HB: Andrew McLeod (Adelaide), Greg Phillips (Collingwood), Graham Johncock (Adelaide)
B: Michael Wilson (Port), Darryl Wakelin (St. Kilda/Port), Darren Mead (Port)
R: David Hynes (West Coast/Fremantle), Nathan Buckley (Brisbane/Collingwood), Craig Bradley (Carlton)
Int: Shaun Burgoyne (Port), Byron Pickett (North Melb/Port/Melb), Martin Leslie (Brisbane)

Interesting to see your side Magpiespower, cant believe i forgot to include Tredders, M Wilson, Wakelin and Williams (should have taken more time to select my team!!)

Very strong team you've picked, only point of debate would be Martin Leslie not in the starting defensive 6. Overall an excellent job.

[Magpiespower]

You've got a (small) point there TM, but i think M Williams' situation was a bit different. His heart was always with Port Adelaide. Apparently there was an agreement in Fos' contract when he took up the coaching job with West in early 70's, that the lads (Mark and Stephen) be clared to Port once his coaching responsibilities with the Wolves/Bloods (or whatever they were called at the time) were finished.

Don't forget Anthony! He also played 19 games for the Westies.

Very strong team you've picked, only point of debate would be Martin Leslie not in the starting defensive 6. Overall an excellent job.

Thought about it. But basically it was between Leslie and Mead for a spot in the starting 22. Toss the coin, really.

Would have liked to have squeezed Danny Hughes in there but the squad of 21 made it impossible.

Maybe with a regular AFL team of 22....

[am Bays]

You've got a (small) point there TM, but i think M Williams' situation was a bit different. His heart was always with Port Adelaide. Apparently there was an agreement in Fos' contract when he took up the coaching job with West in early 70's, that the lads (Mark and Stephen) be clared to Port once his coaching responsibilities with the Wolves/Bloods (or whatever they were called at the time) were finished.

I neglected Mark Williams in the side that i picked, but that was pure oversight. On reflection i would certainly have him in my team for this thread.

It could probably be argued that Clayton Lamb was already an established player at WA before he moved to the Bays (he only went there to play finals whereas Williams went to Port through sheer love of the club), whereas i'd say that Choco's moved to Port considerably improved him as a footballer, to the stage where he was capable of becoming a high class VFL player with Collingwood.

Point taken GWW, no doubt where his heart lies, just making the point that he learnt hs junior footy at Immanual and then went to westies where he played senior footy first....

it is how strictly we want to interpret the title best 21 players to come from your club, I personally draw the line at players who make a senior league debut elsewhere...

[Adelaide Hawk]

I think Graham Molloy would be better placed in the centre or a wing, but I'm not sure.

Another player not listed is David Palm. Went to Richmond in the 70s and might've been a defender I think.

Graham Molloy never played wing, and rarely played in the centre. His role was at CHF, CHB, and he won the Tassie Medal playing as a Ruck-Rover. He made his league debut on the HB flank.

David Palm was a defender with Richmond, but at Norwood he played mainly Centre, Half Forward, and Ruck-Rover.

[Magpiespower]

David Palm was a defender with Richmond, but at Norwood he played mainly Centre, Half Forward, and Ruck-Rover.

Pretty sure he also played for West Perth at some stage...

[Adelaide Hawk]

David Palm was a defender with Richmond, but at Norwood he played mainly Centre, Half Forward, and Ruck-Rover.

Pretty sure he also played for West Perth at some stage...

He did, 1980 to 1982, but I don't know what positions he played for the Falcons.

[GWW]

You've got a (small) point there TM, but i think M Williams' situation was a bit different. His heart was always with Port Adelaide. Apparently there was an agreement in Fos' contract when he took up the coaching job with West in early 70's, that the lads (Mark and Stephen) be clared to Port once his coaching responsibilities with the Wolves/Bloods (or whatever they were called at the time) were finished.

Don't forget Anthony! He also played 19 games for the Westies.

Very strong team you've picked, only point of debate would be Martin Leslie not in the starting defensive 6. Overall an excellent job.

Thought about it. But basically it was between Leslie and Mead for a spot in the starting 22. Toss the coin, really.

Would have liked to have squeezed Danny Hughes in there but the squad of 21 made it impossible.

Maybe with a regular AFL team of 22....

Yes i wondered about Anthony Williams, wasn't certain that he played for West. I'd seen footage of Stephen play for the Bloods/Wolves, but wasn't sure about Anthony.

Another play who i thought of today was Andrew Obst. He had a fairly reasonable AFL career with the Demons, he'd probably seriously push for a first 22 position as well.

[Magpiespower]

He did, 1980 to 1982, but I don't know what positions he played for the Falcons.

Fair chance it's the same David Palm that won West Perth's B&F in 1990?

Would've been just after he finished up at Richmond.

Yes i wondered about Anthony Williams, wasn't certain that he played for West. I'd seen footage of Stephen play for the Bloods/Wolves, but wasn't sure about Anthony.

Actually, it might have been Anthony you saw play.

Because Willo never played league footy for West.

Another play who i thought of today was Andrew Obst. He had a fairly reasonable AFL career with the Demons, he'd probably seriously push for a first 22 position as well.

Forgot about Obst.

Very underrated player.

At both SANFL and AFL levels.