1972 'Champions of Australia' match.

[Aerie]

Last night on the 7.30 report they had a report about it and thanks to Wessie from the Roost here it is on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC7rGpihXZE

Great stuff. Should be a great weekend for North.

[mal]

I was stoked NA beat CA in the Champions series
Like most kids back then , you didnt enjoy seeing VIC teams or clubs beating the SA teams

There were 4 teams involved
Carlton , City South, East Perth, North Adelaide
The games involving North were :

NA 20-23 CITY SOUTH 11-8
NA 10-13 CA 10-12

It was a great win by NA over CA
It was an against the odds win in the latter stages
At 3/4 time CA led by 5 points, and were coming home with a strong breeze worth a few goals
The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

I was spoilt back then
After seeing the magnificent ST teams of the late 60s, then NA in the early 70s , it was a great time too watch the SANFL

Earlier in the season the 2 teams met in a trial at Prospect oval
NA 12-7
CA 23-19
Big turnaround later in the season !

The prize monies paid out to the 4 teams
NA $10,000
CA $3000
EP $2000
CS $1000

This ends up being NA only Champions win
PA have won 4 being the most successful team of the SANFL participants
RI is the most winningest VIC team with 3

[on the rails]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

[mal]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

1971
19-4
2248 for
1782 against
55.78%

1972
18-5
2494 for
1858 against
57.30 %

71/72 were both very good teams
OTR if 72 is the best, would the 71 team be almost as good ?

The 1973 team almost made it 3 in a row
Perhaps IF Back Pocket Geoff Paull had not retired at the end of 1972, NA may have got 3 in a row ?
Glenelg Rover/Forward Pocket Rexy Voigt kicked 7 goals in the 73 Grand Final , maybe , just maybe had Geoff played and stood Rexy, the outcome may have differed, but IF is an intangible word

[on the rails]

Yes Mal good arguement for both but '72 get its on the basis of the Champions of Australia win, mind you we nearly beat Hawthron in '71 so it is a hard comparison.

[robranisgod]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

The 1973 team almost made it 3 in a row
Perhaps IF Back Pocket Geoff Paull had not retired at the end of 1972, NA may have got 3 in a row ?
Glenelg Rover/Forward Pocket Rexy Voigt kicked 7 goals in the 73 Grand Final , maybe , just maybe had Geoff played and stood Rexy, the outcome may have differed, but IF is an intangible word

If Kym Lehmann and Ken Francou hadn't been injured late in the season one of them would have played in the back pocket and would have had the physical strength to match Rex Voight. Also if Bohdan Jaworksyj hadn't left to play at Hawthorn he may have been able to control a dominant Peter Carey who kicked 6 goals from Centre Half Forward. And if Barrie Robran hadn't hurt his knee early in the Grand Final. But you can't change history and Glenelg would have been very, very unlucky to lose the Grand Final given that they had only lost one game for the year, to North at Prospect when they had more scoring shots than North but kicked 8 goals 22 behinds to 14 goals 13.

[Leaping Lindner]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

1952 and 1905 would go close in hindsight.

[mal]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

1971
19-4
2248 for
1782 against
55.78%

1972
18-5
2494 for
1858 against
57.30 %

71/72 were both very good teams
OTR if 72 is the best, would the 71 team be almost as good ?

The 1973 team almost made it 3 in a row
Perhaps IF Back Pocket Geoff Paull had not retired at the end of 1972, NA may have got 3 in a row ?
Glenelg Rover/Forward Pocket Rexy Voigt kicked 7 goals in the 73 Grand Final , maybe , just maybe had Geoff played and stood Rexy, the outcome may have differed, but IF is an intangible word

Please note the 19-4 + 18-5 NA performances included Finals

Also its reported that Bob Hammond became only the 2nd NA triple Premiership player in 1972
That might be true in the SANFL years after 1907
But North would have had triple premiership players in the SAFA years of 1900. 1902, 1905

[robranisgod]

The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

Not arguably - it is easily the best!

1971
19-4
2248 for
1782 against
55.78%

1972
18-5
2494 for
1858 against
57.30 %

71/72 were both very good teams
OTR if 72 is the best, would the 71 team be almost as good ?

The 1973 team almost made it 3 in a row
Perhaps IF Back Pocket Geoff Paull had not retired at the end of 1972, NA may have got 3 in a row ?
Glenelg Rover/Forward Pocket Rexy Voigt kicked 7 goals in the 73 Grand Final , maybe , just maybe had Geoff played and stood Rexy, the outcome may have differed, but IF is an intangible word

Please note the 19-4 + 18-5 NA performances included Finals

Also its reported that Bob Hammond became only the 2nd NA triple Premiership player in 1972
That might be true in the SANFL years after 1907
But North would have had triple premiership players in the SAFA years of 1900. 1902, 1905

North have had six triple premiership players N Pash, J Matthews, J Reedman and E Johns from the 1900, 1902 and 1905 premierships, Don Gilbourne from 1949, 1952 and 1960 and Bob Hammond 1960, 1971 and 1972. Don Gilbourne and Bob Hammond played alongside each other in the 1960 premiership as back pocket and full back and were generally considered to be North's second and third best players in that epic struggle. Don Gilbourne of course was captain in 1960 and Bob Hammond was acting captain in 1972.

[Leaping Lindner]

North have had six triple premiership players N Pash, J Matthews, J Reedman and E Johns from the 1900, 1902 and 1905 premierships, Don Gilbourne from 1949, 1952 and 1960 and Bob Hammond 1960, 1971 and 1972. Don Gilbourne and Bob Hammond played alongside each other in the 1960 premiership as back pocket and full back and were generally considered to be North's second and third best players in that epic struggle. Don Gilbourne of course was captain in 1960 and Bob Hammond was acting captain in 1972.

I was talking to Don Gilbourne about his "trifecta" (amongst other things) at the 1960 dinner, and he was saying how he thought he was quite lucky to sneak into the 1949 side as a reserve being a relatively inexperienced player at the time. I said "Just as well you did".

[mal]

This ends up being interesting about a couple of Prospect Oval games in 1972

NA played CA in a pre season match at Prospect Oval
NA 12-7
CA 23-19
When they played in the end of season Champions game at Adelaide Oval
NA 10-13
CA 10-12
A reversal of some 79 points

NA played PA late in the Minor Round in round 20 , at Prospect Oval
NA 11-17
PA 25-10
When the 2 teams met in the 1972 Grand Final
NA 19-14
PA 10-12
A reversal of some 133 points

From a NA perspective , lucky the big games were played at Adelaide Oval !
Also in both deciders NA kept CA + PA to the same total score of 10-12

[FOURTH ESTATE]

I was stoked NA beat CA in the Champions series
Like most kids back then , you didnt enjoy seeing VIC teams or clubs beating the SA teams

There were 4 teams involved
Carlton , City South, East Perth, North Adelaide
The games involving North were :

NA 20-23 CITY SOUTH 11-8
NA 10-13 CA 10-12

It was a great win by NA over CA
It was an against the odds win in the latter stages
At 3/4 time CA led by 5 points, and were coming home with a strong breeze worth a few goals
The 72 roosters are arguably the best NA team ever produced

I was spoilt back then
After seeing the magnificent ST teams of the late 60s, then NA in the early 70s , it was a great time too watch the SANFL

Earlier in the season the 2 teams met in a trial at Prospect oval
NA 12-7
CA 23-19
Big turnaround later in the season !

The prize monies paid out to the 4 teams
NA $10,000
CA $3000
EP $2000
CS $1000

This ends up being NA only Champions win
PA have won 4 being the most successful team of the SANFL participants
RI is the most winningest VIC team with 3

When did Port win theirs? Competition only ran from 1972-75

1972 North Adelaide
1973 Richmond
1974 Richmond
1975 North Melbourne

Richmond only won 2 in 73-74 before 1972 they were not recognised by the ANFC as the matches did not include WA & TAS premiership sides

[on the rails]

When did Port win theirs? Competition only ran from 1972-75

1972 North Adelaide
1973 Richmond
1974 Richmond
1975 North Melbourne

Richmond only won 2 in 73-74 before 1972 they were not recognised by the ANFC as the matches did not include WA & TAS premiership sides

Back early 1900's - I think West claim one back then too?

[Magpiespower]

Port
1890, 1910, 1913, 1914.

Norwood
1888, 1907.
Runners-Up 1975.

West
1908, 1911.
Runners-Up 1909.

Sturt
Runners-up 1968, 1969, 1970, 1974.

[robranisgod]

From a NA perspective , lucky the big games were played at Adelaide Oval !
Also in both deciders NA kept CA + PA to the same total score of 10-12

Also lucky B Robran played in the Champions game against Carlton. He didn't play in the pre season game. At his best he could easily make 80 points difference.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

History
Norwood won the inaugural Championship of Australia in 1888

The first group of Club Championships were between the Victorian Football Association and South Australian Football Association premiers while from 1907 until 1914, the final competition for 54 years, it was contested between the premiers of the VFL and SAFL. Port Adelaide were champions a record four times during this period. The inaugural Championship was a best of three game series but all future tournaments were decided by a Grand Final.

In 1968 the Championship returned under the same format but the Australian National Football Council refused to grant it official status as a team from Western Australia and Tasmania were not competing and it thus couldn't be referred to as a Championship of 'Australia'. Both state's premiers joined the tournament from 1972 onwards to make it a four club championship. For Tasmania it was the premier of the Tasmanian State Premiership that was invited to the Championship although in 1974 a composite team of players from the premier clubs of the various Tasmanian leagues which took part. VFL clubs won every Championship from 1968, except in 1972 when South Australia's North Adelaide Football Club upset Victoria's Carlton Football Club to win by a point.[1]

The final Championship, in 1976, was known as the NFL Wills Cup and was played under a new format. In an extended competition there were a total of 12 clubs, five from the VFL, four from the SANFL and three from the West Australian National Football League. They were divided into four groups of three and the winners of each group met in the semi finals.

Although the NFL Championship was played again in 1977, no clubs from the VFL took part as they were competing in the Night Series, a new tournament which began to offer a similar format which spelled the end of the Championship of Australia.[2]

Until the nationalisation of the VFL in 1990 to become the Australian Football League, the Championship of Australia was effectively the premier national club competition.
Champions by year
Year Champion Runner-Up Score Venue
1888 Norwood South Melbourne 3 games - 0 Kensington Oval, Adelaide
1890 Port Adelaide South Melbourne 7.10 - 6.13 * Adelaide Oval
1893 Essendon South Adelaide 10.23 - 3.6 * Victoria Park, Melbourne
1907 Norwood Carlton 13.12 (90) - 8.10 (58) Adelaide Oval
1908 West Adelaide Carlton 12.9 (81) - 7.10 (52) Adelaide Oval
1909 South Melbourne West Adelaide 11.8 (74) - 7.14 (56) Melbourne Cricket Ground
1910 Port Adelaide Collingwood 15.20 (110) - 7.9 (51) Adelaide Oval
1911 West Adelaide Essendon 8.9 (57) - 7.12 (54) Adelaide Oval
1913 Port Adelaide Fitzroy 13.16 (94) - 4.7 (31) Adelaide Oval
1914 Port Adelaide Carlton 9.16 (70) - 5.6 (36) Adelaide Oval
1968 Carlton Sturt 13.15 (93) - 6.20 (56) Adelaide Oval
1969 Richmond Sturt 15.27 (117) - 9.10 (64) Adelaide Oval
1970 Carlton Sturt 21.13 (139) - 12.22 (94) Adelaide Oval
1971 Hawthorn North Adelaide 13.13 (91) - 10.7 (67) Adelaide Oval
1972 North Adelaide Carlton 10.13 (73) - 10.12 (72) Adelaide Oval
1973 Richmond Subiaco 12.20 (92) - 10.19 (79) Adelaide Oval
1974 Richmond Sturt 27.11 (173) - 13.17 (95) Football Park
1975 North Melbourne Norwood 17.15 (117) - 5.11 (41) Football Park
1976 Hawthorn North Melbourne 12.17 (89) - 5.11 (41) Norwood Oval **

* During the 1890s behinds, although recorded, were not added to a team's score as whoever kicked more goals won the game.
** Night Game
Most Championships
Port Adelaide's 1914 Championship team
Club Premierships Runners-Up
Port Adelaide 4 0
Richmond 3 0
Carlton 2 4
Norwood 2 1
West Adelaide 2 1
Hawthorn 2 0
South Melbourne 1 2
Essendon 1 1
North Adelaide 1 1
North Melbourne 1 1
Sturt 0 4
Collingwood 0 1
Fitzroy 0 1
South Adelaide 0 1
Subiaco 0 1