Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discussion

[beeroclock]

I love Karma.
To all those people that gave me shat when I said Marsh was looking quite solid in our season in Australia and was looking the goods I give you a gold plated raspberry.
WHUFC, Mal, Days and Red Rooster your dessert is served.
Just need Moses to stand up and then get rid of that Lala Watto.
PLAY ON.

What ?
The only discussions I've had with you was over Doolan and Watson batting at number 3
Page 8 on this thread if you have forgotten
I cant recall giving you shat about Marsh , but quote it forward by all means if I have


I've already given Tiger Pie the thumbs up for his Marsh posts in this thread
As for my assessment of Marsh
I have posted a few times over the years that he is a serious talent, when he is on he is really on

Just remember this
When heez hot heez hot, when heez not heez not

Irrespective of what he has done , we have one common denominator
We both want him to succeed , be a 5,000+ test run batting machine averaging 50 +
Not the hot and cold frustration he has been in the past at this level

I love you Mal.
Now give me a winner please.

[Gozu]

Shaun Marsh what a gun!

[Panther Pack]

Great knock by Marsh we may have found a permanent no 3 (expect Watson to slide into 6 when fit again)

South African attack seemed pretty toothless considering they are no 1 in the world on their home deck. Robin Peterson is a very average spin bowler and will be curious to see how Philander goes in the series.

[Dogmatic]

OK
Mr Sleepy
Doggy
Jimbo
The Clarke critics in this innings


The South Africans will give Clarke more chin deliveries b4 this series has finished
They have won round 1
How should Clarke play from here on ?
Should he play the same shot ?
Should he pull and hook at everything ?
Should he fend them off defensively?
Should he just duck and Weave ?
Should he sway back to the legside and slash through the offside [like Bradman v Larwood] ?
Should he use a tactic I have not posted ?

WHUFC you can post as well

Clarke ducked every short ball up until then successfully.
His dismissal happened not long after lunch to the best bowler in the world.
Against lesser bowlers he may get away with it but I personally think it is a weakness in his game.
As I said in my original post speak to Steve Waugh about facing short pitched bowling.
As Clarke is short ducking is probably the best option and less risk of getting out.
If you keep on ducking them they will stop bowling it.

[mal]

I love Karma.
To all those people that gave me shat when I said Marsh was looking quite solid in our season in Australia and was looking the goods I give you a gold plated raspberry.
WHUFC, Mal, Days and Red Rooster your dessert is served.
Just need Moses to stand up and then get rid of that Lala Watto.
PLAY ON.

What ?
The only discussions I've had with you was over Doolan and Watson batting at number 3
Page 8 on this thread if you have forgotten
I cant recall giving you shat about Marsh , but quote it forward by all means if I have


I've already given Tiger Pie the thumbs up for his Marsh posts in this thread
As for my assessment of Marsh
I have posted a few times over the years that he is a serious talent, when he is on he is really on

Just remember this
When heez hot heez hot, when heez not heez not

Irrespective of what he has done , we have one common denominator
We both want him to succeed , be a 5,000+ test run batting machine averaging 50 +
Not the hot and cold frustration he has been in the past at this level

I love you Mal.
Now give me a winner please.

Lay Doolan on Betfair not to make top score in any innings this series !

[Grahaml]

South African attack seemed pretty toothless considering they are no 1 in the world on their home deck. Robin Peterson is a very average spin bowler and will be curious to see how Philander goes in the series.

This was to me the biggest surprise. They were just devoid of tactics once wickets stopped falling. It was also the most impressive aspect of the Aussie bowling in the Ashes. Is it the captain? Is it the coach/bowling coach? Is it the bowlers? Very odd, especially when work ethic and discipline require no talent.

[Grahaml]

Clarke ducked every short ball up until then successfully.
His dismissal happened not long after lunch to the best bowler in the world.
Against lesser bowlers he may get away with it but I personally think it is a weakness in his game.
As I said in my original post speak to Steve Waugh about facing short pitched bowling.
As Clarke is short ducking is probably the best option and less risk of getting out.
If you keep on ducking them they will stop bowling it.

Steve Waugh was woeful against the short stuff and improved out of sight to hover between awkward and ugly. Highly misleading to compare someone like Clarke who can actually play short stuff well to S. Waugh.

When Mark Waugh got out trying to play the ball off the pads through midwicket did you call for him to put the shot away? Heaven forbid someone gets out defending.

[mal]

Perhaps South Africa will bowl Bodyline at Clarke
I suppose its worth a try he only averages about 70 against them before this test

[Jim05]

South African attack seemed pretty toothless considering they are no 1 in the world on their home deck. Robin Peterson is a very average spin bowler and will be curious to see how Philander goes in the series.

This was to me the biggest surprise. They were just devoid of tactics once wickets stopped falling. It was also the most impressive aspect of the Aussie bowling in the Ashes. Is it the captain? Is it the coach/bowling coach? Is it the bowlers? Very odd, especially when work ethic and discipline require no talent.

They have always had Kallis to go to, now they havnt got anything after the 3 quicks. McLaren looks prettt tame and Petersen and Duminy wouldnt get a bowl in district cricket, the pair of them are just there to fill in the overs. They have never had a half decent spinner in their side.
Smith is also a very negative captain as evidenced by his woeful field placings

[Dogmatic]

Clarke ducked every short ball up until then successfully.
His dismissal happened not long after lunch to the best bowler in the world.
Against lesser bowlers he may get away with it but I personally think it is a weakness in his game.
As I said in my original post speak to Steve Waugh about facing short pitched bowling.
As Clarke is short ducking is probably the best option and less risk of getting out.
If you keep on ducking them they will stop bowling it.

Steve Waugh was woeful against the short stuff and improved out of sight to hover between awkward and ugly. Highly misleading to compare someone like Clarke who can actually play short stuff well to S. Waugh.

When Mark Waugh got out trying to play the ball off the pads through midwicket did you call for him to put the shot away? Heaven forbid someone gets out defending.

Did they get out Steve Waugh to the short ball much after he put it away?
Here is a good article on Michael Clarke's batting.
http://venners91.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/michael-clarke-batting-analysis-of-the-australian-captain/

[daysofourlives]

South African attack seemed pretty toothless considering they are no 1 in the world on their home deck. Robin Peterson is a very average spin bowler and will be curious to see how Philander goes in the series.

This was to me the biggest surprise. They were just devoid of tactics once wickets stopped falling. It was also the most impressive aspect of the Aussie bowling in the Ashes. Is it the captain? Is it the coach/bowling coach? Is it the bowlers? Very odd, especially when work ethic and discipline require no talent.

They have always had Kallis to go to, now they havnt got anything after the 3 quicks. McLaren looks prettt tame and Petersen and Duminy wouldnt get a bowl in district cricket, the pair of them are just there to fill in the overs. They have never had a half decent spinner in their side.
Smith is also a very negative captain as evidenced by his woeful field placings

I thought Morkel was the pick of their bowlers closely followed by McLaren.
Steyn and Philander were pedestrian. The other 2 dont rate a mention
I only saw the 1st 75 overs though

[Jim05]

Another pathetic crowd.How about they worry about getting 50 people there before trying to pinch our Boxing Day test

[Jim05]

Morkel out injured

[beeroclock]

Morkel out injured

Wow.

[whufc]

Clarke ducked every short ball up until then successfully.
His dismissal happened not long after lunch to the best bowler in the world.
Against lesser bowlers he may get away with it but I personally think it is a weakness in his game.
As I said in my original post speak to Steve Waugh about facing short pitched bowling.
As Clarke is short ducking is probably the best option and less risk of getting out.
If you keep on ducking them they will stop bowling it.

Steve Waugh was woeful against the short stuff and improved out of sight to hover between awkward and ugly. Highly misleading to compare someone like Clarke who can actually play short stuff well to S. Waugh.

When Mark Waugh got out trying to play the ball off the pads through midwicket did you call for him to put the shot away? Heaven forbid someone gets out defending.

Did they get out Steve Waugh to the short ball much after he put it away?
Here is a good article on Michael Clarke's batting.
http://venners91.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/michael-clarke-batting-analysis-of-the-australian-captain/

You do realise Clarke gets caught more driving through the slips than he does from hooking, should he never play a drive either

[Dogmatic]

Clarke ducked every short ball up until then successfully.
His dismissal happened not long after lunch to the best bowler in the world.
Against lesser bowlers he may get away with it but I personally think it is a weakness in his game.
As I said in my original post speak to Steve Waugh about facing short pitched bowling.
As Clarke is short ducking is probably the best option and less risk of getting out.
If you keep on ducking them they will stop bowling it.

Steve Waugh was woeful against the short stuff and improved out of sight to hover between awkward and ugly. Highly misleading to compare someone like Clarke who can actually play short stuff well to S. Waugh.

When Mark Waugh got out trying to play the ball off the pads through midwicket did you call for him to put the shot away? Heaven forbid someone gets out defending.

Did they get out Steve Waugh to the short ball much after he put it away?
Here is a good article on Michael Clarke's batting.
http://venners91.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/michael-clarke-batting-analysis-of-the-australian-captain/

You do realise Clarke gets caught more driving through the slips than he does from hooking, should he never play a drive either

He scores a lot more runs from the drive than the pull.

[Jim05]

Cant give that out

[whufc]

Cant give that out

Agree, gut tells me it may have brushed the glove but definatly can't give that out based on everything we saw

[beeroclock]

I love Karma.
To all those people that gave me shat when I said Marsh was looking quite solid in our season in Australia and was looking the goods I give you a gold plated raspberry.
WHUFC, Mal, Days and Red Rooster your dessert is served.
Just need Moses to stand up and then get rid of that Lala Watto.
PLAY ON.

What ?
The only discussions I've had with you was over Doolan and Watson batting at number 3
Page 8 on this thread if you have forgotten
I cant recall giving you shat about Marsh , but quote it forward by all means if I have


I've already given Tiger Pie the thumbs up for his Marsh posts in this thread
As for my assessment of Marsh
I have posted a few times over the years that he is a serious talent, when he is on he is really on

Just remember this
When heez hot heez hot, when heez not heez not

Irrespective of what he has done , we have one common denominator
We both want him to succeed , be a 5,000+ test run batting machine averaging 50 +
Not the hot and cold frustration he has been in the past at this level

I love you Mal.
Now give me a winner please.

Lay Doolan on Betfair not to make top score in any innings this series !

Kiss of death if I've ever seen one.
Pass.

[whufc]

It's been a pleasure Steve Smith!