by MatteeG » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:19 pm
helicopterking wrote:Flaggies will choke. Always have.
by fisho mcspaz » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:55 pm
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by fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:34 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:01 pm
fisho mcspaz wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/rucci-dogged-commitment-keeps-struggling-amateur-clubs-afloat/story-fni5f22o-1226895466977
This 3-year no-poaching rule the SFL is going to implement for Aldinga juniors - any truth to this? Because I can think of several reasons why NOT to enforce such a rule, mainly that it's unfair to the kids. Seriously - if they don't want to play senior footy for Aldinga, they've got reasons, and it's not just due to lack of success at A grade level. I would say it depends predominantly on the coach (A grade coach, that is), and also on where their mates play, on the atmosphere at the club, a number of smaller factors.
Secondly, if the kids leave, it's not to other clubs in the SFL. Most go to the GSFL. I can't see that this rule is going to change anything in that regard - I think that the kids will see it as an imposement, as a restriction, and ultimately it will discourage them from playing footy. It's up to the club to give them the incentives to want to stay and play - it's not up to the league to try and force them to stay. I presume that such a rule would have to be agreed upon by both league and club, and I can't comment on Aldinga's position in this - I simply don't know, to be honest - but if it were up to me, I'd scrap it. One, because it's pointless - it won't stop kids from leaving for the GSFL - and two, because I think that the kids will see it as an attempt to force their hand, basically telling them where they have to play football. Our juniors had a great year in 2013 and are continuing on the same path this year - SFL, please, don't muck it up for them.
by Dazza44 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:27 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:fisho mcspaz wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/rucci-dogged-commitment-keeps-struggling-amateur-clubs-afloat/story-fni5f22o-1226895466977
This 3-year no-poaching rule the SFL is going to implement for Aldinga juniors - any truth to this? Because I can think of several reasons why NOT to enforce such a rule, mainly that it's unfair to the kids. Seriously - if they don't want to play senior footy for Aldinga, they've got reasons, and it's not just due to lack of success at A grade level. I would say it depends predominantly on the coach (A grade coach, that is), and also on where their mates play, on the atmosphere at the club, a number of smaller factors.
Secondly, if the kids leave, it's not to other clubs in the SFL. Most go to the GSFL. I can't see that this rule is going to change anything in that regard - I think that the kids will see it as an imposement, as a restriction, and ultimately it will discourage them from playing footy. It's up to the club to give them the incentives to want to stay and play - it's not up to the league to try and force them to stay. I presume that such a rule would have to be agreed upon by both league and club, and I can't comment on Aldinga's position in this - I simply don't know, to be honest - but if it were up to me, I'd scrap it. One, because it's pointless - it won't stop kids from leaving for the GSFL - and two, because I think that the kids will see it as an attempt to force their hand, basically telling them where they have to play football. Our juniors had a great year in 2013 and are continuing on the same path this year - SFL, please, don't muck it up for them.
That rule is already in place, for all clubs.
by fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:35 pm
by fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:39 pm
by Esteban Vihaio » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:23 pm
Dazza44 wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:fisho mcspaz wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/rucci-dogged-commitment-keeps-struggling-amateur-clubs-afloat/story-fni5f22o-1226895466977
This 3-year no-poaching rule the SFL is going to implement for Aldinga juniors - any truth to this? Because I can think of several reasons why NOT to enforce such a rule, mainly that it's unfair to the kids. Seriously - if they don't want to play senior footy for Aldinga, they've got reasons, and it's not just due to lack of success at A grade level. I would say it depends predominantly on the coach (A grade coach, that is), and also on where their mates play, on the atmosphere at the club, a number of smaller factors.
Secondly, if the kids leave, it's not to other clubs in the SFL. Most go to the GSFL. I can't see that this rule is going to change anything in that regard - I think that the kids will see it as an imposement, as a restriction, and ultimately it will discourage them from playing footy. It's up to the club to give them the incentives to want to stay and play - it's not up to the league to try and force them to stay. I presume that such a rule would have to be agreed upon by both league and club, and I can't comment on Aldinga's position in this - I simply don't know, to be honest - but if it were up to me, I'd scrap it. One, because it's pointless - it won't stop kids from leaving for the GSFL - and two, because I think that the kids will see it as an attempt to force their hand, basically telling them where they have to play football. Our juniors had a great year in 2013 and are continuing on the same path this year - SFL, please, don't muck it up for them.
That rule is already in place, for all clubs.
...... and has been for at least 25 years !
by Look Good In Leather » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:19 pm
Tiger83 wrote:So who won today???
by Look Good In Leather » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:24 pm
fisho mcspaz wrote:(PS. I still think it's s***house - maybe it made more sense 25 years ago. It'd be fair enough IF all clubs were on a more even footing and money was the primary issue, but for teams like Aldinga it seems more like an attempt to force kids to stay rather than to prevent other clubs from poaching them.)
by fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:34 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:fisho mcspaz wrote:(PS. I still think it's s***house - maybe it made more sense 25 years ago. It'd be fair enough IF all clubs were on a more even footing and money was the primary issue, but for teams like Aldinga it seems more like an attempt to force kids to stay rather than to prevent other clubs from poaching them.)
No it is a safety net for running junior programs. Why put 6-12 years into a player only to have them leave unrestricted once they hit seniors?
Most clubs don't enforce it, more use it as a bargaining tool in discussions with the player and/or destination club, but still have the right to hold the player if the situation merits it.
It is a critical component of the fabric of our league, even though it was watered down last year.
by Look Good In Leather » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:38 pm
fisho mcspaz wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:fisho mcspaz wrote:(PS. I still think it's s***house - maybe it made more sense 25 years ago. It'd be fair enough IF all clubs were on a more even footing and money was the primary issue, but for teams like Aldinga it seems more like an attempt to force kids to stay rather than to prevent other clubs from poaching them.)
No it is a safety net for running junior programs. Why put 6-12 years into a player only to have them leave unrestricted once they hit seniors?
Most clubs don't enforce it, more use it as a bargaining tool in discussions with the player and/or destination club, but still have the right to hold the player if the situation merits it.
It is a critical component of the fabric of our league, even though it was watered down last year.
OK, THAT makes more sense. Sorry - I had no idea that this rule even existed, and the way the paper made it sound, I thought it would be a non-negotiable blanket restriction on all junior players. That's what I get for reading the Tiser, I guess.
by Esteban Vihaio » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:51 am
Look Good In Leather wrote:Tiger83 wrote:So who won today???
Sadly, nobody seems to care about the grand final replay today, rather there seems to be more excitement about cowbells, showbags and sausages - a pretty bad reflection on our league.
For the record Reynella 12.8 d Morphettville Park 6.9
Anyone know who won the Captain Malpas Medal?
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