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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri May 30, 2014 2:02 pm

westozfalcon wrote:In my time following footy, late 70’s on:

1. Hawthorn 1983-1991 for sustained dominance
2. Brisbane 2001-2004 - 3 flags and a further GF appearance whilst having to get on a plane every second week. Massive achievement.
3. West Coast Eagles 1990 -1994 – Travelled the breadth of the country and could beat teams anywhere including suburban fortresses like Moorabbin, Victoria Park, Windy Hill, and Western Oval.


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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby Bum Crack » Fri May 30, 2014 2:06 pm

bennymacca wrote:I remember hearing a stat that the current geelong "dynasty" has the greatest winning percentage of any side in history. That's pretty impressive. If they hadn't been stunned by that hawthorn gf loss I think it would be almost a certainty.

I wouldn't say geelong have completely dominated though. Not as if they have been top every year or had undefeated seasons etc. but to be around the mark for so long had been incredibly.

I reckon they did a fair job.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby bennymacca » Fri May 30, 2014 2:07 pm

We came from 4th and 5th in our premiership years.

The early and mid 2000s were much more dominant in terms of win loss, but losing 4 prelims in this time won't get you very far...
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby bennymacca » Fri May 30, 2014 2:18 pm

Bum Crack wrote:I reckon they did a fair job.


Of course.

Here are their last 7 years, before this year.

2013, 2nd, 4 losses
2012, 6th, 7
2011, 2nd, 3, premiership.
2010, 2nd, 5
2009, 2nd, 4, premiers
2008, 1st, 1, runner up
2007, 1st, 4, premiers

Not too any other teams have had a run like that.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri May 30, 2014 2:24 pm

The Swans may not be the best. But they are consistant...

2003 3rd - Prelim
2004 5th
2005 1st - Premiers
2006 2nd - Runners Up
2007 7th
2008 6th
2009 12th
2010 5th
2011 6th
2012 1st - Premiers
2013 4th - Prelim
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby carey » Fri May 30, 2014 2:26 pm

Kangaroos had great era in the Early 90's I think it was 7 prelim's in a row????

Then there was the 96-99 Flags and Obviously losing the 98 GF and the Greatest CHF the game has ever seen......
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby westozfalcon » Fri May 30, 2014 6:33 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:In my time following footy, late 70’s on:

1. Hawthorn 1983-1991 for sustained dominance
2. Brisbane 2001-2004 - 3 flags and a further GF appearance whilst having to get on a plane every second week. Massive achievement.
3. West Coast Eagles 1990 -1994 – Travelled the breadth of the country and could beat teams anywhere including suburban fortresses like Moorabbin, Victoria Park, Windy Hill, and Western Oval.


if you're adding them surely you could chuck the cows in


By the time the Crows were flying (1997/98) the likes of Victoria Park, Moorabbin, Western/Whitten Oval, Windy Hill were no longer used. They were tough grounds for interstate clubs to adapt to.

The Eagles should’ve notched up 1 or even 2 extra flags in the Malthouse era. Ten consecutive finals appearances 1990-99 too.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby beeroclock » Fri May 30, 2014 6:45 pm

No doubt Hawks in the 80s.
10 or 11 flags including the night comps.
That's when sides were actually trying to win the pre season comp as well.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby GWW » Fri May 30, 2014 6:55 pm

westozfalcon wrote:In my time following footy, late 70’s on:

1. Hawthorn 1983-1991 for sustained dominance
2. Brisbane 2001-2004 - 3 flags and a further GF appearance whilst having to get on a plane every second week. Massive achievement.
3. West Coast Eagles 1990 -1994 – Travelled the breadth of the country and could beat teams anywhere including suburban fortresses like Moorabbin, Victoria Park, Windy Hill, and Western Oval.


Re those 3 teams listed above, could arguably say:

- best Centre-line and half back line of all time WCE.....Centre Mainwaring, Kemp, Matera; HB McKenna, Jakovich, Worsfold

- greatest depth in midfield ever Lions....Voss, Akermanis, Black, Hart, Power

- greatest spine ever Hawthorn FF Dunstall, CHF Brereton, C Tuck, CHB Mew, FB Langford.

Could also say that the above 2 (WCE & Lions) had some significant advantages at the time of their dominance, although thats probably for another thread.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri May 30, 2014 9:19 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:The Swans may not be the best. But they are consistant...

2003 3rd - Prelim
2004 5th
2005 1st - Premiers
2006 2nd - Runners Up
2007 7th
2008 6th
2009 12th
2010 5th
2011 6th
2012 1st - Premiers
2013 4th - Prelim

The cats have got that covered if you go back to 03
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:25 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:The Swans may not be the best. But they are consistant...

2003 3rd - Prelim
2004 5th
2005 1st - Premiers
2006 2nd - Runners Up
2007 7th
2008 6th
2009 12th
2010 5th
2011 6th
2012 1st - Premiers
2013 4th - Prelim

The cats have got that covered if you go back to 03

I did say we weren't the best
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby the wonder elephant » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:39 am

GWW wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:In my time following footy, late 70’s on:

1. Hawthorn 1983-1991 for sustained dominance
2. Brisbane 2001-2004 - 3 flags and a further GF appearance whilst having to get on a plane every second week. Massive achievement.
3. West Coast Eagles 1990 -1994 – Travelled the breadth of the country and could beat teams anywhere including suburban fortresses like Moorabbin, Victoria Park, Windy Hill, and Western Oval.


Re those 3 teams listed above, could arguably say:

- best Centre-line and half back line of all time WCE.....Centre Mainwaring, Kemp, Matera; HB McKenna, Jakovich, Worsfold

- greatest depth in midfield ever Lions....Voss, Akermanis, Black, Hart, Power
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- greatest spine ever Hawthorn FF Dunstall, CHF Brereton, C Tuck, CHB Mew, FB Langford.

Could also say that the above 2 (WCE & Lions) had some significant advantages at the time of their dominance, although thats probably for another thread.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby the wonder elephant » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:40 am

Nigel * still says hello :)
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby Mr Beefy » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:09 am

Ablett, Selwood, Corey, Ottens, Bartel, Ling, etc, etc say gday too
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:15 am

Mr Beefy wrote:Ablett, Selwood, Corey, Ottens, Bartel, Ling, etc, etc say gday too


brisbane's midfield was still better.

three brownlow medallists in there...
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby gossipgirl » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:23 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:The Swans may not be the best. But they are consistant...

2003 3rd - Prelim
2004 5th
2005 1st - Premiers
2006 2nd - Runners Up
2007 7th
2008 6th
2009 12th
2010 5th
2011 6th
2012 1st - Premiers
2013 4th - Prelim


so they can finish anywhere from 1st to 12th :?
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:25 pm

gossipgirl wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:The Swans may not be the best. But they are consistant...

2003 3rd - Prelim
2004 5th
2005 1st - Premiers
2006 2nd - Runners Up
2007 7th
2008 6th
2009 12th
2010 5th
2011 6th
2012 1st - Premiers
2013 4th - Prelim


so they can finish anywhere from 1st to 12th :?

no it means they are consistant... missed the 8 once...
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby probie » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:10 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:Ablett, Selwood, Corey, Ottens, Bartel, Ling, etc, etc say gday too


brisbane's midfield was still better.

three brownlow medallists in there...

Cats had bartel and Ablett
Also chapman Johnson bartel winning the norm. Unreal period they've had. 3 flags five years

Hawks throughout the 80's, basically michael tucks career length, contend with the best

Lions are out, based on how quickly they fell

Swans have been up and about for a while - a shot to really come into consideration if they come again this year.

Hawks since 08 have been good, back to back this year if it happens makes them right up there

Collingwood of the 20's is too hard to judge, but it is four flags in a row, hard to argue they were the best of all time.


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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby nuggety goodness » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:13 pm

BUMP

Hawthorn 2008-current

2007 - 5/6th, lost semi to Roos
2008 - Premiers
2009 - 9th
2010 - 7th, lost Elim final to Freo away
2011 - 3rd, lost prelim to Coll. by 3 pts
2012 - 2nd, lost GF to Syd. by 10 pts
2013 - Premiers
2014 - Premiers
2015 - ???

So think about the hawks, going back to back after losing to the Swans in 2012 having not bottomed out after their 2008 triumph.

IF they can pull off the unthinkable and win 3 on the trot and their 4th in 8, with a GF loss and a tight prelim loss, does that make them the greatest dynasty in modern football?

I think so, Brisbane did the threepeat then lost the forth, Geelong won 3 in 5 but this Hawthorn side might just shade them both IMO IF they can get the job done next year.
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Re: Greatest Football Dynasty

Postby bennymacca » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:27 am

nuggety goodness wrote:BUMP

Hawthorn 2008-current

2007 - 5/6th, lost semi to Roos
2008 - Premiers
2009 - 9th
2010 - 7th, lost Elim final to Freo away
2011 - 3rd, lost prelim to Coll. by 3 pts
2012 - 2nd, lost GF to Syd. by 10 pts
2013 - Premiers
2014 - Premiers
2015 - ???

So think about the hawks, going back to back after losing to the Swans in 2012 having not bottomed out after their 2008 triumph.

IF they can pull off the unthinkable and win 3 on the trot and their 4th in 8, with a GF loss and a tight prelim loss, does that make them the greatest dynasty in modern football?

I think so, Brisbane did the threepeat then lost the forth, Geelong won 3 in 5 but this Hawthorn side might just shade them both IMO IF they can get the job done next year.


tend to agree with all of that - at least in the modern era
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