SAAFL Division 4 2014

[Phantom Gossiper]

Will Sedan have a side left lol? I've heard couple more on the move..

[Footy Chick]

So are you implying SW offered Aloisi $500 per game? Wasn't that what he was getting at Sedan?

FFS, it was an EXAMPLE..I'm not suggesting or implying anything.

[ramming23]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

[Q.]

Don't be a dick and you won't get carded.

[whufc]

Daniel hickey will be staying at sedan and as for the question of ladder position what do u think go to a very strong club with every chance of winning the flag or back to blodge who unfortunately are heading in the wrong direction...

I wonder how much SW had to fork out to help the clearance go through? Or if Sedan are looking at decreasing their payments anyway, are they happy too just off load $500 - $1000 per week for 2 players to ease the financial burden..? In other words, promise the world to recruits and if you're not where you want to be at the halfway point of the season start moving some blokes on and save up and do it all again next year maybe...

Yep apparently that's becoming the trend for the country clubs in particular.

One club in the plains league did exactly that.

Asked the player to take a fairly large pay cut because they weren't going to be premiership threats. When they player spat it the club said they would be mutually happy for him to chase other options before the deadline and save his pay to put towards next years funds to which they said they will be happy to have him back next year with hopefully some even bigger recruits.

[Cohiba]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

Because he ran to the scuffle (to help a teammate as you state) clearly not to separate... but with the intent evening up the numbers and to do harm by way of a "hard bump" as you state.....that is malice. His action also did have the "threat" and potential to escalate into something bigger if others came running.

Sometimes what we construe as part of the game and righteous justice.... is not always interpreted that way in accordance with the rules as seen by the umpires in SAAFL. Whether the umpires have more to prove at that level than in higher Divisions and sometimes over react I don't know. IMO be at least grateful that for the most part they not like someof the B grade "orange peels" that have to be tolerated week in week out .

Q states...Don't be a dick and you won't be reported and your team won't lose someone from the bench for the remainder of the game.......or...... do you ignore your teammate when he's in strife when and if the umps don't react (quickly enough)... It a fine line between the two IMO

[Footy Chick]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

so your bloke comes in to bump the other bloke and then hypothetically one of theirs comes in to bump him then one of yours king hits him and then one of theirs king hits him and next thing it’s plastered all over the Sunday Mail as it has been a couple of times last year not to mention the threat of someone being seriously hurt unnecessarily.

It's instances like you described above that the league is trying to avoid,

Its called the melee rule dude and that could potentially cost your club $250.

Thank your lucky stars you didn't have our ump on the weekend. 5 frees against us (and none for) in the first 2 minutes of the game and maybe one was there. We had problems with him last year too , I'm surprised he was even allocated to us.

[Robb_Stark]

F.C how many of the B grade umpires would actually know about the melee rule im not having a go at anyone here on this but i would like to see the league work with the clubs and get these B grade umpires some trainning to understand the rules correctly...and third man in is what causes all the fights a umpire can deal with 2 knuckles head easier then team v team


if the SAAFL were to do a survey at this point of time how many B grade umpires would know where trainning is held and what night it is on ?

[Phantom Gossiper]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

Rugby League, the 3rd person in always gets sin binned regardless of how heavy or little the impact is. Generally the 3rd person in is what causes incidents to escalate, so I can't see anything wrong with it.

[jo172]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

Rugby League, the 3rd person in always gets sin binned regardless of how heavy or little the impact is. Generally the 3rd person in is what causes incidents to escalate, so I can't see anything wrong with it.

Indeed at the meeting at the start of the season the League advised all clubs that this was the rule from hereon in. No excuse for anyone to be unaware of it.

Good rule too.

[ramming23]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

Rugby League, the 3rd person in always gets sin binned regardless of how heavy or little the impact is. Generally the 3rd person in is what causes incidents to escalate, so I can't see anything wrong with it.

Indeed at the meeting at the start of the season the League advised all clubs that this was the rule from hereon in. No excuse for anyone to be unaware of it.

Good rule too.

Well our player was the 4th player in because Pulteney had the 3rd man run over, so my confusion over this situation is why the Glenunga player has been reported when Pulteney had their player involve himself in what was a fine 1 on 1.. Umpire was watching the whole thing and failed to take control but magically reports our player. #giveusneutralumpires

[Footy Chick]

It's a tricky one without seeing it, but it could be a mixture of the B grade umps being a bit clueless.... OR

Your bloke may have run in and manhandled a pulteney bloke, where as the 3rd man in only tried to pull his own bloke off*

[heater31]

Hey FC and any other Hope Valley peeps dust off your flippers for this week's game as I've heard you are not playing football this week but water polo

[Footy Chick]

No shit - I knew back as soon as I saw the draw back in Feb that we'd have rain of monumental Noah's Ark type proportions this weekend.

Just as it does every time we have to play at Morgan Oval

[Robb_Stark]

It's a tricky one without seeing it, but it could be a mixture of the B grade umps being a bit clueless.... OR

Your bloke may have run in and manhandled a pulteney bloke, where as the 3rd man in only tried to pull his own bloke off*

Pulteney umpire is bad he made a lot of errors and even defended his decisions like no free kick for kicking in danger or pushes in the back or holding his answer part of the game dead set pecker

[Browny25]

Daniel hickey will be staying at sedan and as for the question of ladder position what do u think go to a very strong club with every chance of winning the flag or back to blodge who unfortunately are heading in the wrong direction...

I know what you are trying to say but in my opinion "Wrong direction" are the incorrect words.

May some dumb, but we think we are heading in the right direction

[Cohiba]

What is everyone's view on the red card? There was an incident yesterday in our B grade where there was a scuffle behind play (2 onto 1) and a Glenunga player ran over to help out his team mate and bumped a player heavily (not high) just a hard bump and was reported and red carded for it? Not that I think this incident was even a reportable offense but does anyone agree that some incidents should only constitute a report but not penalised by being sent off for the rest of the game for something that had no malice or threat in it?

Rugby League, the 3rd person in always gets sin binned regardless of how heavy or little the impact is. Generally the 3rd person in is what causes incidents to escalate, so I can't see anything wrong with it.

Indeed at the meeting at the start of the season the League advised all clubs that this was the rule from hereon in. No excuse for anyone to be unaware of it.

Good rule too.

Well our player was the 4th player in because Pulteney had the 3rd man run over, so my confusion over this situation is why the Glenunga player has been reported when Pulteney had their player involve himself in what was a fine 1 on 1.. Umpire was watching the whole thing and failed to take control but magically reports our player. #giveusneutralumpires

Maybe the ump just doesn't like Glenunga....

[Robb_Stark]

Daniel hickey will be staying at sedan and as for the question of ladder position what do u think go to a very strong club with every chance of winning the flag or back to blodge who unfortunately are heading in the wrong direction...

Hills Football League SA going to Salisbury West Hickey, Daniel Pending 2014-06-24

[ramming23]

It's all good everyone, you'll be happy to know our player was given 2 games for a bump. It honestly makes me sick. SAAFL need to lose the AFL attitude and stop ruining our game. If the umpire took control of the situation at the time and stopped the third player from Pulteney the situation wouldn't have happened in the first place, but to rub someone out for 2 weeks over a bump that was graded LOW impact in comparison to striking charges that only get 1. It's an absolute joke. Might start telling some of our boys to just take up ballet.

[norm11]

Let's get onto the big topic. The top of the table clash. I would be interested in everyone's thoughts on this game.