by Booney » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:02 am
by gadj1976 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:17 pm
by Booney » Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:56 am
by gadj1976 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:58 pm
the milky bar kid wrote:Looks cool, LHD?
Booney wrote:Nice one Gadj!
You looking at historic rego / joining a car club?
by Booney » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:16 pm
by the milky bar kid » Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:56 pm
by Booney » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:01 pm
by the milky bar kid » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:35 pm
Booney wrote:TMBK, pics mate?
by gadj1976 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:13 pm
Booney wrote:Yes mate, as it left the factory, although, I've got a feeling LHD > RHD may not be considered a modification that excludes you from this. I'll ask around for you, see what comes of it.
I too, am time poor, rarely get on the cruises that the club has ( mainly because they are Saturday night and who the **** can not have a beer on any given Saturday? ) and the club I'm in has no requirements to attend x amount to remain a member. Which is great!
Nice for those weekends that you could fill a few hours out cruising. That's how I see mine. ( A bit of an investment also - albeit we know cars are not a real investment, unless rare, held onto, condition etc )
by gadj1976 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:19 pm
the milky bar kid wrote:RHD solves a heap of problems for you, and it's still cool! The seatbelt feeling is weird isn't it. Shame about the colour, on my project they put some stupid refrigerator white paint job over the original metallic turquoise colour. So that's on the list of things to do.
I think for club rego it's 'standard' within reason. I think the 'standard' rule was brought in to stop guys claiming historic rego on heavily Rodded vehicles (ie, 32 coupe, with modern running gear). So as long as the modifications are within similar from the period, they are fine. Especially if it's safety upgrades like disks & seatbelts.
The full 'as it left the factory ' only really applies to getting the car certified at Regency if it is left hand drive. Which is a really painful experience (I'm currently trying to get my Plymouth Valiant project up to the point of sending it thru). Please note, some of these rules are completely ridiculous, as it would make a lot of sense to put discs on mine...
Club wise, having an American style car, if you are not looking for a full club experience, just sign up for the Zippel newsletter. It's not a full on club, but it's $15-$20 to join American cruising enthusiasts. You would be able to get a bit of workers networking done via that too.
by gadj1976 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:21 pm
the milky bar kid wrote:Booney wrote:TMBK, pics mate?
Why not. Still a bit too do before the scary Regency visit, but here it is.
Original colour
by the milky bar kid » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:37 pm
gadj1976 wrote:the milky bar kid wrote:RHD solves a heap of problems for you, and it's still cool! The seatbelt feeling is weird isn't it. Shame about the colour, on my project they put some stupid refrigerator white paint job over the original metallic turquoise colour. So that's on the list of things to do.
I think for club rego it's 'standard' within reason. I think the 'standard' rule was brought in to stop guys claiming historic rego on heavily Rodded vehicles (ie, 32 coupe, with modern running gear). So as long as the modifications are within similar from the period, they are fine. Especially if it's safety upgrades like disks & seatbelts.
The full 'as it left the factory ' only really applies to getting the car certified at Regency if it is left hand drive. Which is a really painful experience (I'm currently trying to get my Plymouth Valiant project up to the point of sending it thru). Please note, some of these rules are completely ridiculous, as it would make a lot of sense to put discs on mine...
Club wise, having an American style car, if you are not looking for a full club experience, just sign up for the Zippel newsletter. It's not a full on club, but it's $15-$20 to join American cruising enthusiasts. You would be able to get a bit of workers networking done via that too.
That's a nice set of wheels TMBK! I really like it. I agree with your sentiment about the RHD. I was looking at a LHD, exactly the same as my old one in Victoria but I was torn. Torn between leaving it as is, or making it RHD and therefore making it practical but changing it from original. This way I've got the best of both worlds.
From what I've heard, brakes and seat belts are ok as modifications. At the moment I intend on making mine safe, then worrying about the consequences of having it 'modified' later. It's not a daily driver but it's on full rego so I can if and when I want to.
Wednesday I get the steering and suspension looked at in the front - it's sitting WAY too high. Thursday is seatbelts and Monday next week I get the auto electrician in to look at the rear left indicator which doesn't seem to want to work.
I'll have a look at Zippel - thanks for the heads up!
by tipper » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:23 pm
by the milky bar kid » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:43 pm
tipper wrote:unfortunately guys, if you want your cars to be on the historic scheme, they basically cant be modified at all. and as far as i am aware, that includes brakes and suspension its only normally where factory parts are no longer available that a suitable period replacement can be allowed
its not regency that you have to convince either, its the car club you join. they inspect it and issue a certificate to state that it meets the requirements, and as the whole club could lose its certification under the historic vehicle scheme (and therefore all the members will lose their historic status) they dont normally bend the rules for anyone.
basically, if you are considering historic reg, approach the car club you have in mind and have a chat to them about it. they will have someone there that is all up to date on the rules and can help you out (if the club is certified as a historic vehicle club with the registrar of motor vehicles). there is also a code of practice available for historic vehicles from here: http://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transport-t ... d-vehicles
as well as codes of practice for left hand drive vehicles and street rod vehicles. dont get me started on the hipocrisy of historic vehicles having to be stock and street rod vehicles having to be modified for them to be eligible......
anyway, very nice cars anyway guys. whatever you decide to do with them i hope they bring you much happiness
by tipper » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:04 pm
the milky bar kid wrote:tipper wrote:unfortunately guys, if you want your cars to be on the historic scheme, they basically cant be modified at all. and as far as i am aware, that includes brakes and suspension its only normally where factory parts are no longer available that a suitable period replacement can be allowed
its not regency that you have to convince either, its the car club you join. they inspect it and issue a certificate to state that it meets the requirements, and as the whole club could lose its certification under the historic vehicle scheme (and therefore all the members will lose their historic status) they dont normally bend the rules for anyone.
basically, if you are considering historic reg, approach the car club you have in mind and have a chat to them about it. they will have someone there that is all up to date on the rules and can help you out (if the club is certified as a historic vehicle club with the registrar of motor vehicles). there is also a code of practice available for historic vehicles from here: http://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transport-t ... d-vehicles
as well as codes of practice for left hand drive vehicles and street rod vehicles. dont get me started on the hipocrisy of historic vehicles having to be stock and street rod vehicles having to be modified for them to be eligible......
anyway, very nice cars anyway guys. whatever you decide to do with them i hope they bring you much happiness
That's annoying.
I understand why the rules were brought in (to stop excessively rodded vehicles being hidden under historic rego), but it's another ridiculous rule in regards to historic cars being registered in our state. Other states have a common sense approach, sadly ours doesn't.
by gadj1976 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:13 pm
by the milky bar kid » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:45 pm
gadj1976 wrote:Thanks Tipper for that info.
The more I think about it, the more I think I'll steer away from the historic rego. I'd love to do it but from my base (where my car is at) I'd be looking at a huge overhaul from bumper to bumper. I drove it tonight and I think it's a 3 spd auto which again is not standard. The door trims are 'new', there are dual exhausts, the list goes on.
I reckon I'll get it back to 'an' original colour, maybe not the grey that was stock (because I don't like it!) and hoot around in it. I love driving it because it's unique and you have to ACTUALLY drive it! I do have to get a radio in it too. I'm thinking of getting this one - what do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321438119148?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
by gadj1976 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:39 pm
by tipper » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:57 pm
tipper wrote:the milky bar kid wrote:tipper wrote:unfortunately guys, if you want your cars to be on the historic scheme, they basically cant be modified at all. and as far as i am aware, that includes brakes and suspension its only normally where factory parts are no longer available that a suitable period replacement can be allowed
its not regency that you have to convince either, its the car club you join. they inspect it and issue a certificate to state that it meets the requirements, and as the whole club could lose its certification under the historic vehicle scheme (and therefore all the members will lose their historic status) they dont normally bend the rules for anyone.
basically, if you are considering historic reg, approach the car club you have in mind and have a chat to them about it. they will have someone there that is all up to date on the rules and can help you out (if the club is certified as a historic vehicle club with the registrar of motor vehicles). there is also a code of practice available for historic vehicles from here: http://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transport-t ... d-vehicles
as well as codes of practice for left hand drive vehicles and street rod vehicles. dont get me started on the hipocrisy of historic vehicles having to be stock and street rod vehicles having to be modified for them to be eligible......
anyway, very nice cars anyway guys. whatever you decide to do with them i hope they bring you much happiness
That's annoying.
I understand why the rules were brought in (to stop excessively rodded vehicles being hidden under historic rego), but it's another ridiculous rule in regards to historic cars being registered in our state. Other states have a common sense approach, sadly ours doesn't.
there has been pressure recently to intorduce a "street machine" type of category, for those that have a vehicle that is modified and also may not get driven very often, however it has so far been resisted by the transport dept. it was even looked at during the last update of the code of practice that certain mods be allowed for historics, safety things such as the brakes and suspension stuff mentioned here, but even that was knocked on the head.
personally i wouldnt have a problem with allowing either a new category (street machines ?) or allowing greater leeway for historics, but from what i have heard, i wouldnt hold my breath.
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