wild dog wrote:Have a look at the commission http://www.sanfl.com.au/sanfl/sa_football_commission/ and you will see a bunch of fat drunk pigs with their snouts in the trough
EFA
by RB » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:05 pm
wild dog wrote:Have a look at the commission http://www.sanfl.com.au/sanfl/sa_football_commission/ and you will see a bunch of fat drunk pigs with their snouts in the trough
by RB » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:08 pm
cracka wrote:Yeah, I'm just interested if there's a dollar value/conditions/number of AFL listed players in the side etc, point where AFL reserves would be accepted in the SANFL.
by Dogs72 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:17 pm
by wild dog » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:19 pm
Reddeer wrote:[Clearly you have been seduced by swammy lying political types who take you for everything. Just check your Electricity bill
by wild dog » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:22 pm
RB wrote:wild dog wrote:Have a look at the commission http://www.sanfl.com.au/sanfl/sa_football_commission/ and you will see a bunch of fat drunk pigs with their snouts in the trough
EFA
by RB » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:23 pm
Booney wrote:Dutchy wrote:MW wrote:How many Crows AFL supporters actually support another SANFL side?
I have no interest in crows res games but happily go to westies
Thats the general feel with my mates who are Crows fans but follow their SANFL club, however the concern is the next generation who are being brought up to follow both in both competitions....and why wouldn't they? Try telling a 10 yo that he should follow one team in the AFL and another in the SANFL.
Where are the next generations of SANFL fans coming from?
That was most likely the case anyway. The group of kids 10-15 years old who are 5-10 years away from making their own decisions with their money and time are less likely to have a real interest in the SANFL at the moment because, in the main, their parents ( Dad ) no longer has the same interest in the SANFL.
That's not the people in this thread, that's the 120,000+ PAFC and AFC members in SA along with I would guess 10,000-15,000 or more North, West Coast, Hawthorn etc members who live in SA and have the AFL as their main priority.
by wild dog » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:29 pm
Dogs72 wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-ma
Great article, pity about a lot of the dim witted comments below it. Not sure if it cut pasted properly, hard on the phone)http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-magpies-should-be-banned-from-playing-sanfl-finals-says-cara-jenkin/news-story/b0e588db09e062cb778a20c6b8a4bebc
Maybe some posters from here can comment on the site?
by dogbreath » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:37 pm
wild dog wrote:RB wrote:wild dog wrote:Have a look at the commission http://www.sanfl.com.au/sanfl/sa_football_commission/ and you will see a bunch of fat drunk pigs with their snouts in the trough
EFA
Could be an element of that. Still, can something be done about it?
by Dogs72 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:38 pm
by johntheclaret » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:02 am
cracka wrote:johntheclaret wrote:goddy11 wrote:JTC. To add to your point, what does Port actually give back to the SANFL. They pay no fees to SANFL clubs, play matches at Alberton, discourage their supporters from travelling to away games ala the South game at Noarlunga. At least the old Magpies added to player development.
That just reinforces my argument that the powers that be (no pun intended) at the SANFL are incompetent and not capable of running the league.
Personally, I'm not interested in any of the rumours that might be put out there, lining their own pockets, setting themselves up for an AFL number, etc, as they are all irrelevant to the main fact.
What is relevant to me though is their inability to say No, or if they genuinely believed having AFL Reserves in was better for the league, is their inability to broker a decent deal for their SANFL clubs that meant both AFL clubs played to the same set of rules. And their failure to see the true value of the SANFL League to the AFL clubs.
If they had it would have meant $150k p.a. to each SANFL club from each AFL club.
Allowing the SANFL clubs to use the fees on players by increasing the salary cap to $650k, which would help stop the drain of quality players to the ammos
No home games and no Reserves Reserves for Port
Adelaide and Port to fund any shortfall in sponsorship revenue for the TV deal and each club to have the same number of appearances as the two Reserves.
I'm sure there would be many other proviso's
And that those same people who were devoid of any ideas when "negotiating" the deal, are also devoid of any ideas now. Even if they voted to kick the AFL Reserves out right now, they simply have no ideas. The league would flounder because there just isn't anyone at the SANFL driving it forward. There is no one there that I'd have the least bit of confidence in to run any of my businesses let along something as important as the SANFL.
The pro AFLites would say "we told you so", completely missing the point that the only reason it failed was because of the incompetents running it.
Would that be enough for you to accept the AFL reserves sides or would you prefer them not in the SANFL at all
by johntheclaret » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:14 am
by UK Fan » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:45 am
johntheclaret wrote:Another interesting point is the possible damage to the SANFL if the clubs did form a Reserves League.
They can only have so many squad players, One team of A Grades and One team of B grades that are used to fill in , promote up etc.
They already have that now so how will that affect the number of players available to the SANFL Clubs?
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by Wedgie » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:06 am
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by JK » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:28 am
by csbowes » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:53 am
by Booney » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:54 am
RB wrote:Booney wrote:Dutchy wrote:MW wrote:How many Crows AFL supporters actually support another SANFL side?
I have no interest in crows res games but happily go to westies
Thats the general feel with my mates who are Crows fans but follow their SANFL club, however the concern is the next generation who are being brought up to follow both in both competitions....and why wouldn't they? Try telling a 10 yo that he should follow one team in the AFL and another in the SANFL.
Where are the next generations of SANFL fans coming from?
That was most likely the case anyway. The group of kids 10-15 years old who are 5-10 years away from making their own decisions with their money and time are less likely to have a real interest in the SANFL at the moment because, in the main, their parents ( Dad ) no longer has the same interest in the SANFL.
That's not the people in this thread, that's the 120,000+ PAFC and AFC members in SA along with I would guess 10,000-15,000 or more North, West Coast, Hawthorn etc members who live in SA and have the AFL as their main priority.
I disagree with this, but even if you're right, taking the view that the SANFL was going to die anyway was pretty pathetic for the $ix league directors. When you compare the hard yards people like Phil Herden put into getting new fans with the willingness of the league directors to give up and reach their ankles it's very disappointing.
To put it simply, without the reserves teams, the league had a chance. We all know how many people follow teams in both the SANFL and AFL. (There are plenty of people on this site with a team in the SANFL, the AFL, the Premier League, the NFL, rugby league, etc. - I mean come on, Australians like their sport. In fact by the '80s many if not most regular SANFL fans had a favourite VFL team.) But now that the Crows and Power reserves sides are in the league, there is little reason for young kids to follow SANFL teams.
Talk about pathetic.
by Apachebulldog » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:12 am
Dogs72 wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-ma
Great article, pity about a lot of the dim witted comments below it. Not sure if it cut pasted properly, hard on the phone)http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-magpies-should-be-banned-from-playing-sanfl-finals-says-cara-jenkin/news-story/b0e588db09e062cb778a20c6b8a4bebc
Maybe some posters from here can comment on the site?
by StrayDog » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:54 am
Dogs72 wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-ma
Great article, pity about a lot of the dim witted comments below it. Not sure if it cut pasted properly, hard on the phone)http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/local-footy-sa/sanfl/crows-and-magpies-should-be-banned-from-playing-sanfl-finals-says-cara-jenkin/news-story/b0e588db09e062cb778a20c6b8a4bebc
Maybe some posters from here can comment on the site?
by RB » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:23 pm
Booney wrote:RB wrote:I disagree with this, but even if you're right, taking the view that the SANFL was going to die anyway was pretty pathetic for the $ix league directors. When you compare the hard yards people like Phil Herden put into getting new fans with the willingness of the league directors to give up and reach their ankles it's very disappointing.
To put it simply, without the reserves teams, the league had a chance. We all know how many people follow teams in both the SANFL and AFL. (There are plenty of people on this site with a team in the SANFL, the AFL, the Premier League, the NFL, rugby league, etc. - I mean come on, Australians like their sport. In fact by the '80s many if not most regular SANFL fans had a favourite VFL team.) But now that the Crows and Power reserves sides are in the league, there is little reason for young kids to follow SANFL teams.
Talk about pathetic.
Where the **** did I say the "SANFL was going to die anyway"? The SANFL was at another point in time where changes would be coming, like it or not.
But now that the Crows and Power reserves sides are in the league, there is little reason for young kids to follow SANFL teams.
That's not the only reason.There is a whole generation of passiontate football followers who simply don't know much about the SANFL, they're passionate, just not about the SANFL. Adelaide fans born around 1990, now closing in on their 30's will have kids who only hear Mum/Dad speak about SANFL sides as they, the parents, no longer follow the SANFL as either they once did, if at all. The children of those people would barely know where The Parade is, let alone who plays there. It's a generational change that was leaving the SANFL behind.
Both clubs forecast this some years ago. Port noted back in the early 00's that by mid 20-teens ( now ) there would be another wave of paying members / supporters coming through. Those born late 90's who knew little of the goings on before that time and whose family are Port people ( or, bless them, they made that choice themselves ) are now into their late teens/20's and are earning money and choosing where to spend it. They are not passionate SANFL people, they are passionate football people though.
Having said that, there's no doubt the reserves side entry has expedited that process for some people/families.
by daysofourlives » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:03 pm
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