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Re: US

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:25 pm

Pennsylvania....is the gift that keeps giving

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Re: US

Postby whufc » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:53 am

Kind of feels like how a dictator would try and take control.

Simply refuse to leave, create as much angst and hysteria surrounding the decision.

Drum up enough hate that your passionate supporters will fight for the death for you.
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Re: US

Postby Apachebulldog » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:45 am

Armchair expert wrote:It’s over for you bidenbros

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-fil ... -filed.pdf



WOW some heavy stuff in there but the fake MSM says there is nothing to see and that there is no proof.


Its gonna get pretty ugly in the good ole USA and lawyers will clean up the dollars. :)
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Re: US

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:03 am

[tweet]https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326304091035881472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1326304091035881472%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthedonald.win%2Fp%2F11Q8O5F6Y6%2Ftrump-tweet-ballot-corruption-wi%2Fc%2F[/tweet]
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Re: US

Postby Magellan » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:28 am

Armchair expert wrote:[tweet]https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326304091035881472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1326304091035881472%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthedonald.win%2Fp%2F11Q8O5F6Y6%2Ftrump-tweet-ballot-corruption-wi%2Fc%2F[/tweet]

Sean Hannity exposing the Democrat's election fraud, can't wait for his objective and dispassionate analysis. It's like asking the president of the Carlton cheer squad to explain why Collingwood are shit.
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:39 am

When fox news cuts you off mid sentence and says it's nonsense. you know you are in strife...

I love the fact he's claiming fraud only in the states he lost hahaha!!!

bye bye trump
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Re: US

Postby RB » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:54 am

Apachebulldog wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:It’s over for you bidenbros

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-fil ... -filed.pdf



WOW some heavy stuff in there but the fake MSM says there is nothing to see and that there is no proof.


Generally, the idea is that if you're making the allegation, you have to present evidence in support of that allegation.

Vague mutterings about 'illegal votes' aren't going to cut it for most folks.
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Re: US

Postby bulldogproud » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:43 am

Apachebulldog wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:It’s over for you bidenbros

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-fil ... -filed.pdf



WOW some heavy stuff in there but the fake MSM says there is nothing to see and that there is no proof.


Its gonna get pretty ugly in the good ole USA and lawyers will clean up the dollars. :)


If you analyse it carefully, all it amounts to is that the Republican Party did not do due diligence on their mail-in ballot process. There is not one shred of evidence that the Democrats or vote-counters have done anything wrong at all. Even Trump's friend, Tucker Carlson, says the legal cases are a complete waste of time.

ELECTION

TRUMP: “Georgia will be a big presidential win, as it was the night of the Election!” — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: He’s falsely suggesting that any ballot counted after Election Day in Georgia and other states is illegitimate and illegal. In fact, that is explicitly allowed in roughly 20 states, and the Supreme Court did not stand in the way of it.

Trump refused to concede and said he will press his legal challenges, despite seeing several lawsuits dismissed by courts.

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TRUMP: “Pennsylvania prevented us from watching much of the Ballot count. Unthinkable and illegal in this country.” — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: His assertion is false.

Trump is wholly misrepresenting a court case in the state and what happened at voting places. No one tried to ban poll watchers representing each side in the election. Democrats did not try to stop Republican representatives from being able to observe the process.

The main issue in the case was how close observers representing the parties could get to election workers who are processing mail-in ballots in Philadelphia. Trump’s representatives sued to allow the observers to get closer than the guidelines had allowed. A court ruled in favor of that request.

The counting in Philadelphia was being livestreamed and Trump’s lawyers admitted in court that their campaign had observers in the room — “a non-zero” number of them, as they put it.

It was well-known that huge numbers of mailed-in ballots as well as in-person ballots were to be counted after Election Day and that many would be from Democratic-leaning areas. That’s why news organizations did not call Pennsylvania for Trump.
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Re: US

Postby bulldogproud » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:45 am

whufc wrote:Kind of feels like how a dictator would try and take control.

Simply refuse to leave, create as much angst and hysteria surrounding the decision.

Drum up enough hate that your passionate supporters will fight for the death for you.


... and try to destroy people's faith in democratic elections and possibly democracy in general. Trump has done more to harm the US than Putin could ever do on his own.
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Re: US

Postby Apachebulldog » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:40 pm

RB wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:It’s over for you bidenbros

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-fil ... -filed.pdf



WOW some heavy stuff in there but the fake MSM says there is nothing to see and that there is no proof.


Generally, the idea is that if you're making the allegation, you have to present evidence in support of that allegation.

Vague mutterings about 'illegal votes' aren't going to cut it for most folks.





Correct however whats the old saying where there s smoke there is fire.

Anyway if there is any evidence of voting irregularities and it is presented to a judge its up to the courts to hear it or toss it out probably the latter.

But I tell ya what it sure is keeping this debate in our little forum still going.

Like a previous poster said Pennsylvania still keeps giving :)
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:44 pm

:lol:

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Re: US

Postby Magellan » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:48 pm

Postal worker recanted allegations of ballot tampering, officials say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

Hopkins did not respond to messages from The Washington Post seeking comment through his social media accounts, family members and phone messages earlier this week. But in a YouTube video he posted Tuesday night, he denied recanting. “I’m here to say I did not recant my statements. That did not happen,” he said.

The reversal to investigators comes as Trump has refused to concede to President-elect Joe Biden (D), citing unproven allegations about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to swing the results in his favor. Republicans held up Hopkins’s claims as among the most credible because he signed an affidavit swearing that he overheard a supervisor instructing colleagues to backdate ballots mailed after Nov. 3.

The Trump campaign provided that affidavit to Graham, who in turn asked the Justice Department and FBI to launch an investigation.

The Trump campaign also cited reports of the allegation in a federal lawsuit filed Monday against Pennsylvania election officials that seeks to prevent them from certifying the states’ election results.

Tim Murtaugh, a Trump campaign spokesman, said Hopkins’s allegations are just a small part of the campaign’s assertions in the Pennsylvania lawsuit, adding, “We don’t know what kind of pressure he has been under since he publicly made those statements.”

The Justice Department and Graham did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

The Erie postmaster, Rob Weisenbach, called the allegations “100% false” in a Facebook post and said they were made “by an employee that was recently disciplined multiple times.”

“The Erie Post Office did not back date any ballots,” Weisenbach wrote.

The Postal Service inspector general’s office informed members of Congress in a briefing on Tuesday that Hopkins had recanted his allegations, according to a congressional aide. The investigators first interviewed Hopkins on Friday, the aide said.

Hopkins’s allegations, without his name, were first aired last week by Project Veritas, an organization that uses deceptive tactics to expose what it says is bias and corruption in the mainstream media. Hopkins agreed to attach his name to the allegations late last week. He was instantly celebrated by Trump supporters.

Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe on Saturday hailed Hopkins as “an American hero” on Twitter. A GoFundMe page created under Hopkins’s name had raised more than $136,000 by Tuesday evening, with donors praising him as a patriot and whistleblower. The fundraising page was removed by GoFundMe after this story was published Tuesday, a spokesman for the platform said.

“Your donations are going to help me in the case I am wrongfully terminated from my job or I am forced into resigning due to ostrizization [sic] by my co-workers,” the page states. “It will help me get a new start in a place I feel safe and help me with child support until I am able to get settled and get a job.”

A spokesman for GoFundMe, Bobby Whithorne, said in a statement that the money raised on the site was “not disbursed and Hopkins never had access to the funds.”

Separately, on Monday Project Veritas announced it was offering a “$25,000 reward” for “first hand election fraud tips in Pennsylvania.” Late Tuesday, O’Keefe claimed to have recordings of agents questioning Hopkins and said that he was pressured to sign a document he did not understand.

The Postal Service said in a statement over the weekend that it had referred Hopkins’s allegations to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the Office of Inspector General.

The Postal Inspection Service declined to comment on Tuesday morning, referring questions to the Office of Inspector General. A spokeswoman for that office, Agapi Doulaveris, said it was still “looking into the matter” Tuesday afternoon and declined to elaborate.

Hopkins was escorted out of his workplace on Monday afternoon and told not to return until the investigation was completed, according to one of the officials familiar with the probe.

A page on the social networking site LinkedIn that matches Hopkins’s name and other biographical details says he served in the Marine Corps from 2007 to 2012. Hopkins subsequently held numerous jobs for short periods of time, including as a nurse’s aide and as an employee at a fracking company in Texas, according to a Facebook profile. The Facebook page says he became a letter carrier in Erie in August 2018.
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Re: US

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:51 pm

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Re: US

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:52 pm

Guys, use your brains for one second, they aren't dishing out the big stuff, they are saving it for the supreme court.
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:54 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Guys, use your brains for one second, they aren't dishing out the big stuff, they are saving it for the supreme court.


Guys, use your brains for one second, Trump LOST!!!!
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Re: US

Postby Magellan » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:57 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Hey Magellan

YOU ARE FAKE NEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibU5KVF ... =emb_title

Hey, give me a break, I'm just doing research.
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Re: US

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:58 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Hey Magellan

YOU ARE FAKE NEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibU5KVF ... =emb_title


Fake News, it's the adult version of "But you started it" and it's viewed, by grown ups, are particularly immature.
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:58 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Guys, use your brains for one second, they aren't dishing out the big stuff, they are saving it for the supreme court.

why wait??? At the moment their is zero credible evidence. Why not be open and show us what you got????

Oh that's right Trump hasn't got anything...
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Re: US

Postby Gozu » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:58 pm

Surely the pro-Trump crazies on here have sobered up by now?
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:59 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Hey Magellan

YOU ARE FAKE NEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibU5KVF ... =emb_title



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