Coronavirus (Covid19)

[Apachebulldog]

Given that you never watch, listen or read ANY MSM how do you know what they report?

Cos i read all the propaganda from some of the sheep that post here

[Apachebulldog]

Too late if you ask me. NSW seem to have no intention of taking the necessary steps to control spread.

As Marshall and Spurrier proved in SA back in late Nov you have to clamped down hard and early if you want to be able to return to the "new normal" as quickly as possible.

You have to allow for the **** factor who think this doesn't apply to them.

In reality, when you apply a Tukey Post Hoc test to determine the the significant multi variance factor determining the outcome to controlling these outbreaks, Successful management is in the hands of the general populace doing the right thing and being disciplined compared to the treatments put in place by government such as lock downs, contact tracing, testing and medical treatment)

What a load of crap, they jumped at shadows and was proven to be the incorrect approach.
Anyway NZ and Australai to be in lockdown by Jan 15th is what im hearing, time will tell if thats accurate or not.

Looking forward to all the stats coming out on the deaths around the world in the last year compared to other years, that should wake a few more sleepers.
Even some of you guys would have to admit now that there is something real fishy going on.
How is the vaccine going to work if we have a new superstrain? ill tyell you, it wont just the same as it hasnt worked for the flu for the last 70 years
Why is HCQ still banned when it is being used successfully in other parts of the world?

Correct Daisy you forgot to mention Ivermectin look it up great success just like HCQ a lot of medicos around the world swear by it cheap effective proven drugs that have been around for years that kill the virus when the patient is treated early.

But no lets not use it let the elderly die until the magic bullet comes a long so big pharma once again can make BILLIONS.

Its all about GREED and not saving lives.

[Q.]

Too late if you ask me. NSW seem to have no intention of taking the necessary steps to control spread.

As Marshall and Spurrier proved in SA back in late Nov you have to clamped down hard and early if you want to be able to return to the "new normal" as quickly as possible.

You have to allow for the **** factor who think this doesn't apply to them.

In reality, when you apply a Tukey Post Hoc test to determine the the significant multi variance factor determining the outcome to controlling these outbreaks, Successful management is in the hands of the general populace doing the right thing and being disciplined compared to the treatments put in place by government such as lock downs, contact tracing, testing and medical treatment)

What a load of crap, they jumped at shadows and was proven to be the incorrect approach.
Anyway NZ and Australai to be in lockdown by Jan 15th is what im hearing, time will tell if thats accurate or not.

Looking forward to all the stats coming out on the deaths around the world in the last year compared to other years, that should wake a few more sleepers.
Even some of you guys would have to admit now that there is something real fishy going on.
How is the vaccine going to work if we have a new superstrain? ill tyell you, it wont just the same as it hasnt worked for the flu for the last 70 years
Why is HCQ still banned when it is being used successfully in other parts of the world?

Correct Daisy you forgot to mention Ivermectin look it up great success just like HCQ a lot of medicos around the world swear by it cheap effective proven drugs that have been around for years that kill the virus when the patient is treated early.

But no lets not use it let the elderly die until the magic bullet comes a long so big pharma once again can make BILLIONS.

Its all about GREED and not saving lives.

HCQ does not cure COVID-19 - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

And there is no evidence that Ivermectin does either.

Stop peddling this nonsense.

[Q.]

Too late if you ask me. NSW seem to have no intention of taking the necessary steps to control spread.

As Marshall and Spurrier proved in SA back in late Nov you have to clamped down hard and early if you want to be able to return to the "new normal" as quickly as possible.

You have to allow for the **** factor who think this doesn't apply to them.

In reality, when you apply a Tukey Post Hoc test to determine the the significant multi variance factor determining the outcome to controlling these outbreaks, Successful management is in the hands of the general populace doing the right thing and being disciplined compared to the treatments put in place by government such as lock downs, contact tracing, testing and medical treatment)

Which is why you have to mandate behavioral changes, ie. mask wearing. "Pretty please" doesn't work.

[Q.]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

[Jim05]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

[Q.]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

How has NZ received a shipment then?

And vaccines have been approved - Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, for instance.

[Hopeful Jelly]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

How has NZ received a shipment then?

And vaccines have been approved - Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, for instance.

NZ have secured enough doses to vaccinate their whole population and the Pacific islands, but I don't believe they have received anything yet. They don't expect to start until the middle of the year.

It's similar to Australia - we have secured millions of doses, and will start receiving them soon (and we'll also manufacture some of them in Australia). Look here for the details of what vaccines Australia has secured and their timelines:
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a ... %20batches.


It's correct that the UK, US and other countries have approved vaccines for use already, but it still needs to go through Australian approval too before it can be used here. Other countries have rushed their approvals through because of their situation, but we don't need to whilst we have low case numbers, so we can go through a more standard approval process and watch what happens in other countries for the next few months.

[Jim05]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

How has NZ received a shipment then?

And vaccines have been approved - Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, for instance.

OK, I must have heard wrong. I thought that the UK only got theirs because of emergency approval.
I don’t believe NZ will receive their order until May?

[daysofourlives]

Too late if you ask me. NSW seem to have no intention of taking the necessary steps to control spread.

As Marshall and Spurrier proved in SA back in late Nov you have to clamped down hard and early if you want to be able to return to the "new normal" as quickly as possible.

You have to allow for the **** factor who think this doesn't apply to them.

In reality, when you apply a Tukey Post Hoc test to determine the the significant multi variance factor determining the outcome to controlling these outbreaks, Successful management is in the hands of the general populace doing the right thing and being disciplined compared to the treatments put in place by government such as lock downs, contact tracing, testing and medical treatment)

Which is why you have to mandate behavioral changes, ie. mask wearing. "Pretty please" doesn't work.

You do realise that a mandate doesnt force you to either, it is not a law, all it does is control people like yourself that believe everything you are told.
The signing in at venues isnt mandated either by the way, it is only mandatory for the venues to have the QR code for you to sign in. Up to you wether you do it or not. Even the police dont have the powers that you think have been given to some covid marshall at the local IGA.

But despite all this i hope you get your vaccine real soon, your anxiety must be through the roof with fear of dying from this hoax

[stan]

Interested in Apache's thoughts on the new "mutant super strains" that have suddenly popped up in Adelaide and sunshine Coast.

No you’re not

Yes he is LOL.

For all you young fellas guess what the Flu has been mutating for thousands of years every bloody year it mutates and then there are new strains some times they are weaker or some times stronger DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course all the sheep and goats fall for the scaremongering tactics of the MSM it sells papers [emoji38]

You sir are a joke and have not responded to what I have posted towards you. You are a joke and have abandoned the cause and just another Sheeple pretending to be a truther.

Absolute joke and hypocrite!!

Apaches YouTube is BS just like Apache!

[Apachebulldog]

HCQ does not cure COVID-19 - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

And there is no evidence that Ivermectin does either.

Stop peddling this nonsense.


Well you tell that to that hundreds of medical professionals around the world using these treatments there are many many many studies articles.

Here are just a sample i found


HCQ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/ ... s/12324118

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/heal ... index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... r-covid-19

https://principia-scientific.com/doctor ... ovid-cure/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... -patients/


Ivermectin

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines. ... vermectin/

https://www.dhakatribune.com/health/cor ... ntive-drug

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2020 ... tion-plan/


https://www.bloomberg.com/press-release ... tralian-gp


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... r-BB17JP3c


So once again believe what you all want to .

I believe in hope if there is a cheap alternative drugs/combo which have been around for years and which used in early intervention that save lives i would take them

[Apachebulldog]

Interested in Apache's thoughts on the new "mutant super strains" that have suddenly popped up in Adelaide and sunshine Coast.

No you’re not

Yes he is LOL.

For all you young fellas guess what the Flu has been mutating for thousands of years every bloody year it mutates and then there are new strains some times they are weaker or some times stronger DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course all the sheep and goats fall for the scaremongering tactics of the MSM it sells papers [emoji38]

You sir are a joke and have not responded to what I have posted towards you. You are a joke and have abandoned the cause and just another Sheeple pretending to be a truther.

Absolute joke and hypocrite!!

Apaches YouTube is BS just like Apache!

Lol love ya post bad start to the New Year hang over ????

Nah mate i am a RAM i head butt the sheep in an attempt to open up their minds horizons and have an open mind to a variety of topics

[stan]

[quote="The Bedge"]Interested in Apache's thoughts on the new "mutant super strains" that have suddenly popped up in Adelaide and sunshine Coast.

No you’re not

Yes he is LOL.

For all you young fellas guess what the Flu has been mutating for thousands of years every bloody year it mutates and then there are new strains some times they are weaker or some times stronger DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course all the sheep and goats fall for the scaremongering tactics of the MSM it sells papers [emoji38]

You sir are a joke and have not responded to what I have posted towards you. You are a joke and have abandoned the cause and just another Sheeple pretending to be a truther.

Absolute joke and hypocrite!!

Apaches YouTube is BS just like Apache!

Lol love ya post bad start to the New Year hang over ????

Nah mate i am a RAM i head butt the sheep in an attempt to open up their minds horizons and have an open mind to a variety of topics [emoji38] [/quote]Love you ya sexy YouTube beast. You'll find your way back, once we get the microchip out.

[am Bays]

HCQ does not cure COVID-19 - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

And there is no evidence that Ivermectin does either.

Stop peddling this nonsense.

So you're saying HCQ Iverhadsome doesnt work

Well you tell that to that hundreds of medical professionals around the world using these treatments there are many many many studies articles.

Here are just a sample i found


HCQ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/ ... s/12324118

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/heal ... index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... r-covid-19

https://principia-scientific.com/doctor ... ovid-cure/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... -patients/


Ivermectin

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines. ... vermectin/

https://www.dhakatribune.com/health/cor ... ntive-drug

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2020 ... tion-plan/


https://www.bloomberg.com/press-release ... tralian-gp


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... r-BB17JP3c


So once again believe what you all want to .

I believe in hope if there is a cheap alternative drugs/combo which have been around for years and which used in early intervention that save lives i would take them

What do you believe Dodo??

Do you even read what you quote or just look at them selectively.

This from the first line of the Guardian article you quoted:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/28/questions-raised-over-hydroxychloroquine-study-which-caused-who-to-halt-trials-for-covid-19

Exclusive: Australian researchers query origin of data used for Lancet study, but stress there is no evidence drug is a safe or effective treatment

Based on the studies/articles you quote (many from Main stream media sites (Bloomberg,, ABC, Guardian) - I'll let that sink in for everyone on here given your views on main Steam media- maybe you're a sheep too. I suggest that, that the reasons those chemicals (let call out all medications for what they fundamentally are) aren't approved for use is based on the articles you quote is they are not proven to work or to be effective yet.

It is true that they are being used in trials gain so we need to wait like we did with vaccine before we start prescribing and administrating until we know they work.

So seriously stop peddling bullsh!t, if you going to quote something as proof, make sure you read it and study the statistics and methodology so you understand what they are actually stating as fact and what is merely implied or suggested.
As a 1st step If the information is not from a peer reviewed reputable scientific/medical journal it is not worth the bytes

[Apachebulldog]

Right if you would of read Q previous post i was responding to his statement these treatments do not work You DODO i also posted the other point of view from the leftist Guardian ok with you DODO

[Q.]

Right if you would of read Q previous post i was responding to his statement these treatments do not work You DODO i also posted the other point of view from the leftist Guardian ok with you DODO

None of those are studies from peer reviewed medical journals. The HCQ Recovery Study used a gold standard methodology and supersedes any of the work conducted prior including the Lancet study mentioned in the Guardian article.

[Q.]

Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

How has NZ received a shipment then?

And vaccines have been approved - Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, for instance.

NZ have secured enough doses to vaccinate their whole population and the Pacific islands, but I don't believe they have received anything yet. They don't expect to start until the middle of the year.

It's similar to Australia - we have secured millions of doses, and will start receiving them soon (and we'll also manufacture some of them in Australia). Look here for the details of what vaccines Australia has secured and their timelines:
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a ... %20batches.


It's correct that the UK, US and other countries have approved vaccines for use already, but it still needs to go through Australian approval too before it can be used here. Other countries have rushed their approvals through because of their situation, but we don't need to whilst we have low case numbers, so we can go through a more standard approval process and watch what happens in other countries for the next few months.

Remember, there was a significant amount of political spin released around securing vaccine supply and being "front of queue".

The Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine has delivered enough data from its Phase 3 trial for approval in several countries including Canada, and emergency use authorisation in the UK and USA. The TGA is likely to approve it in January, but Australia has only ordered 10 million doses. 10 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is only enough for 5 million Australians, 20% of the population.

The other 80% of Australians will have to wait for other vaccines from May, June or even later.

Compare this with Canada who has ordered enough of the vaccines that it’s already approved to cover four times its population. Australia’s position is woeful by comparison.

[stan]

[quote="Q."]Where is our vaccine?

29 countries have begun administering vaccines and NZ has received its first shipments of a vaccine already. What's the hold-up for Aus?

Because we are being cautious and no vaccine has been given approval for use. There have been emergency use approval given but we aren’t in an emergency compared to many other nations. Only fair that those countries get first dibs

How has NZ received a shipment then?

And vaccines have been approved - Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, for instance.

NZ have secured enough doses to vaccinate their whole population and the Pacific islands, but I don't believe they have received anything yet. They don't expect to start until the middle of the year.

It's similar to Australia - we have secured millions of doses, and will start receiving them soon (and we'll also manufacture some of them in Australia). Look here for the details of what vaccines Australia has secured and their timelines:
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a ... %20batches.


It's correct that the UK, US and other countries have approved vaccines for use already, but it still needs to go through Australian approval too before it can be used here. Other countries have rushed their approvals through because of their situation, but we don't need to whilst we have low case numbers, so we can go through a more standard approval process and watch what happens in other countries for the next few months.

Remember, there was a significant amount of political spin released around securing vaccine supply and being "front of queue".

The Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine has delivered enough data from its Phase 3 trial for approval in several countries including Canada, and emergency use authorisation in the UK and USA. The TGA is likely to approve it in January, but Australia has only ordered 10 million doses. 10 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is only enough for 5 million Australians, 20% of the population.

The other 80% of Australians will have to wait for other vaccines from May, June or even later.

Compare this with Canada who has ordered enough of the vaccines that it’s already approved to cover four times its population. Australia’s position is woeful by comparison.[/quote]On a serious note about the vaccine, I'm happy to be at the back of the queue for it. I'm not an anti vacc at all, I just like things to be properly tested first.

I reckon we should start with Politicians and work our way through them first.

[cracka]

Right if you would of read Q previous post i was responding to his statement these treatments do not work You DODO i also posted the other point of view from the leftist Guardian ok with you DODO

None of those are studies from peer reviewed medical journals. The HCQ Recovery Study used a gold standard methodology and supersedes any of the work conducted prior including the Lancet study mentioned in the Guardian article.

Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/