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Postby Apachebulldog » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:04 am

If you want a political laugh re Fox/Tucker Carlson versus CNN LOL

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Postby Apachebulldog » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:16 am

So ANTIFA was not involved in the peaceful protest at Capitol Hill yep just keep believing the Fact Checkers :lol:


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Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:52 am

Trader wrote:Nah stan, the left have already told us that private companies arent allowed to present information based on their own political leanings when they all had a big cry over murdoch.....


You are conflating the free market with press freedom and the ability of profit-making enterprises to use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to continue to dominate markets and dictate public policy.
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:01 am

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... port-finds

From The Guardians perspective, 99.743% of the world doesn’t have Covid, so nearly all people are Covid free and there’s nothing to worry about

As of today, 93% of USA don’t have / have not had Covid so nearly all people are OK
But that hasn’t stopped The Guardian attacking Trump

But Murdoch is the source of all evil
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Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:05 am

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Trader wrote:Nah stan, the left have already told us that private companies arent allowed to present information based on their own political leanings when they all had a big cry over murdoch.....


You are conflating the free market with press freedom and the ability of profit-making enterprises to use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to continue to dominate markets and dictate public policy.


If you want Murdoch banned from political interference or commentary then every other press outlet must be banned from the same
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:06 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:BLM may have had good intentions but it just turned into a riot (including in Sydney) and is still going in parts of the US


Now you're just being disingenuous. The Sydney protests were peaceful until NSW Police pushed a group of up to 200 protesters (who were heading home) into Central Station and instigated the violence.
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Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:07 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

From The Guardians perspective, 99.743% of the world doesn’t have Covid, so nearly all people are Covid free and there’s nothing to worry about

As of today, 93% of USA don’t have / have not had Covid so nearly all people are OK
But that hasn’t stopped The Guardian attacking Trump

But Murdoch is the source of all evil


This is false equivalence.
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Postby DOC » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:10 am

IF (have and don't intend to read the Guardian article)

the world factor of having/had Covid is 0.257 AND the US has a factor of 7, which is something like 25 times the rate, does that not lead to the fact that they are grossly over represented?
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Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:16 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
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Trader wrote:Nah stan, the left have already told us that private companies arent allowed to present information based on their own political leanings when they all had a big cry over murdoch.....


You are conflating the free market with press freedom and the ability of profit-making enterprises to use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to continue to dominate markets and dictate public policy.


If you want Murdoch banned from political interference or commentary then every other press outlet must be banned from the same


Please give examples of other organisations that use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to dominate markets and dictate public policy.
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:45 am

So it turns out that a number of the domestic terrorists who took part in the attempted coup were actually law enforcement officers who used their ID to enter the premises :shock:
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:25 pm

DOC wrote:IF (have and don't intend to read the Guardian article)

the world factor of having/had Covid is 0.257 AND the US has a factor of 7, which is something like 25 times the rate, does that not lead to the fact that they are grossly over represented?


I think you’ll find the reported cases in the third world go largely unreported
I mean the numbers in China, and more specifically; Beijing are just unbelievable considering the population & density
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:26 pm

stan wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Well well well its starting the neo fascists are going to stifle and curtail free speech disgusting :(

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... ce03fd4ed6
You know these are private companies right? They can do this and it doesn't effect anyone's free speech. Are you saying that we are all that reliant on Social media to be actual media that we consider Twitter, Facebook and Parlour as important as actual news sources?

More of a concern should be that it takes something like this before Google and Apple actually have a good look at these apps lol.


It's called deplatforming. Right wing white supremacists present the greatest terror threat to the US according to DHS and places like Parler are a haven for the proliferation of hateful ideology.

Also, fascism is probably bad for business now ;)
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:57 pm

Q. wrote:
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Trader wrote:Nah stan, the left have already told us that private companies arent allowed to present information based on their own political leanings when they all had a big cry over murdoch.....


You are conflating the free market with press freedom and the ability of profit-making enterprises to use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to continue to dominate markets and dictate public policy.


If you want Murdoch banned from political interference or commentary then every other press outlet must be banned from the same


Please give examples of other organisations that use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to dominate markets and dictate public policy.


The media, and it’s owners, have always used their position to get influence and outcomes.
That’s why politicians cower to them. Blame the politicians who allow it to happen, or like Rudd; make it happen
Look at the ABC. Cutting popular services to highlight a cut in extra funding. That’s abuse of their power.
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Re: US

Postby DOC » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:10 pm

Meanwhile, Mike Pence has confirmed he will attend the inauguration.
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Re: US

Postby Apachebulldog » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:12 pm

Q. wrote:
stan wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Well well well its starting the neo fascists are going to stifle and curtail free speech disgusting :(

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... ce03fd4ed6
You know these are private companies right? They can do this and it doesn't effect anyone's free speech. Are you saying that we are all that reliant on Social media to be actual media that we consider Twitter, Facebook and Parlour as important as actual news sources?

More of a concern should be that it takes something like this before Google and Apple actually have a good look at these apps lol.


It's called deplatforming. Right wing white supremacists present the greatest terror threat to the US according to DHS and places like Parler are a haven for the proliferation of hateful ideology.

Also, fascism is probably bad for business now ;)



Well you are right how we get our news now has changed most of us now get our iformation from a myriad of sources whilst browsing which includes social media and then we can believe who we want the new generation do not read papers as such its the world of IT.


Yeah sure get a grip mate you believe everything the left FAKE MEDIA etc puts out :roll: '

It seems to me and Millions around the world( CONSERVATIVES ) that if you have a different opinion and do not agree with left leaning ideals you are the enemy and must conform and thus are labelled right wing extremists why is the left scared of debate ????????

Or

Is that these big tech companies are now scared of competition and are losing their control of the leftist narrative monoply/monies due to the exit of millions from Twatter FAARKBOOK etc

Anyway the purge continues .

Banned
Walkaway a site supposedly set up by ex Democrats who have decided to walkaway from the Democrat Party and some of its left leaning agendas some of these escapees now have a more conservative approach/stories on their platform therefore they must be banned :roll:

Be very very wary who will be next.

https://humanevents.com/2021/01/08/face ... -walkaway/

Also on a side note where was the censorship over the last four years whilst ANTIFA BLM and other nutters were promoting inciting violence riots looting arson etc etc which was endorsed and condoned by many Democrat leaders and officials why were they not all deplatformed ???????????????

Ahhh Haaa i know its the LEFT so its quite acceptable. and OK.


:twisted: HYPOCRITES

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Re: US

Postby DOC » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:22 pm

Patriots?
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Re: US

Postby RB » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:48 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:
RB wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:I find this by just simple browsing i guess there will be more info in the next few days either confirming or denying as i have said once before i hate em all we are all being lied to and being manipulated.

So, after your 'simple browsing' has not yielded anything which supports your claim, do you still think that Antifa are behind the protests?

Or do you think it more likely that the vast majority of rioters yesterday were Trump supporters?

Genuinely interested in any conclusions you can draw for us here.


Yes there are anarchists in both the xtremes but from what i have witnessed in the USA for all of last year riots looting burning violence the CNN narrative was nah nothing to see its just peaceful protests yep sure pull the other one.


Once again, you've wimped out of actually answering the most simple of questions, in favour of false equivalence, whataboutism and generally referring to matters irrelevant to my question - which I assume you haven't read (I guess reading comprehension probably wasn't your strong suit).

Have you ever wondered whether there was any connection between the myriad incorrect predictions you made in advance of the US elections, and your inability to analyse information objectively and draw reasoned conclusions?
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:26 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:Well you are right how we get our news now has changed most of us now get our iformation from a myriad of sources whilst browsing which includes social media and then we can believe who we want the new generation do not read papers as such its the world of IT.


Yeah sure get a grip mate you believe everything the left FAKE MEDIA etc puts out :roll: '

It seems to me and Millions around the world( CONSERVATIVES ) that if you have a different opinion and do not agree with left leaning ideals you are the enemy and must conform and thus are labelled right wing extremists why is the left scared of debate ????????

Or

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Be very very wary who will be next.

https://humanevents.com/2021/01/08/face ... -walkaway/

Also on a side note where was the censorship over the last four years whilst ANTIFA BLM and other nutters were promoting inciting violence riots looting arson etc etc which was endorsed and condoned by many Democrat leaders and officials why were they not all deplatformed ???????????????

Ahhh Haaa i know its the LEFT so its quite acceptable. and OK.


:twisted: HYPOCRITES



You're the only one connecting conservatism with right wing extremism here.
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:20 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Q. wrote:Please give examples of other organisations that use the privileges of the Fourth Estate to dominate markets and dictate public policy.


The media, and it’s owners, have always used their position to get influence and outcomes.
That’s why politicians cower to them. Blame the politicians who allow it to happen, or like Rudd; make it happen
Look at the ABC. Cutting popular services to highlight a cut in extra funding. That’s abuse of their power.


There are no other examples, correct.

Murdoch literally used the online platform of SkyNews to foment the terrorism at the US Capitol by directly feeding fever swamp election denial content (conspiracy content that has been repeatedly promoted by individuals within in the LNP as well) to the actual specific people who stormed the US Capitol.

And yes, the ABC has had funding cuts, while Foxtel receives handouts.
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Re: US

Postby Apachebulldog » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:35 pm

One posters time line on censorship.

8.00am: Twitter bans conservatives

8.01am: Conservatives move to Parler

8.02am: Apple and Google remove Parler

8.03am: Amazon takes Parler offline

Apparently, it's all just a coincidence after people questioned the election results at 7.59am. :(
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