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[The Bedge]

Agreed. There should be 16 teams. So adding a Tasmanian team requires 3 to be kicked out.

They'll keep an even number so either a merger, relocation, or two additional licenses added.

Perhaps we will see a conference setup sooner rather than later.

[Dutchy]

One of the problems Tasmania has is the dislike/rivalry the North has with the South.
Overcoming/mitigating this will be a big issue.

They even refuse to sell each other's beer. Boags in the north, Cascade in the South (or vice versa)

There is even a bar in the middle of Tassie that has Boags at the Northern end of the bar and Cascade at the Southern end

[Armchair expert]

Hell no to new teams

Do we really want to go through another 8 years of compromised drafts?

they are already unfair as it is but gifting a new team the best 10 players each year sucks for every other club

[Jim05]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

[Brodlach]

Gold Coast Bombers?

[am Bays]

This got released three weeks ago:

https://www.aflnt.com.au/news/2021/aflnt-releases-feasibility-study-into-afl-team-in-the-northern-territory

The actual document linked at the bottom is quite interesting especially when it lists the income and expenditure for each club in 2018

2018 AFL CLUB REVENUE COMPARISON
TEAM REVENUE (AUD)
West Coast 82,265,015
Collingwood 82,074,011
Richmond 79,777,837
Hawthorn 74,339,727
Geelong 67,944,647
Essendon 65,092,072
Carlton 61,627,141
Port Adelaide 59,000,643
Fremantle 58,390,623
Adelaide 56,060,913
Brisbane Lions 55,605,874
St Kilda 53,864,218
Western Bulldogs 51,576,289
Melbourne 49,010,456
GWS 43,453,413
Gold Coast 40,042,853
North Melbourne 39,618,239

2018 AFL CLUB EXPENDITURE COMPARISON
TEAM EXPENDITURE (AUD)
Collingwood 82,055,416
West Coast 75,303,667
Hawthorn 73,283,008
Richmond 68,668,187
Geelong 64,148,544
Essendon 62,770,201
Carlton 62,200,919
Port Adelaide 59,993,164
Fremantle 56,237,709
Brisbane Lions 55,263,508
Adelaide 54,554,911
Western Bulldogs 51,566,956
Melbourne 50,088,804
GWS 45,439,104
St Kilda 43,739,246
Gold Coast 40,911,615
North Melbourne 38,900,103

And then breaks down Gold Coasts Income and Expenditure given AFLNT bases it's business case on the Gold Coast model (will require sh!tloads of Government (which the NT doesn't have) and AFL money to operate)

REVENUE TYPE REVENUE (AUD)
Grant Income 23,696,768
Sponsorship & Supply Rights Income 6,494,108
Membership & Ticketing 7,301,203
Merchandise 253,600
Other Trading Operations 2,297,174
TOTAL 40,042,853

EXPENDITURE TYPE EXPENDITURE (AUD)
Costs of Goods Sold 157,868
Advertising & Promotion 1,187,133
Leases 1,188,756
Football Operations 1,664,986
Travel 975,424
Administration 3,354,849
Finance expenses 55,226
Depreciation & Amortisation 725,357
Employees 27,352,975
Sponsor & Match Day Activation 3,587,524
Maintenance 661,517
TOTAL 40,911,61

[whufc]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

[Jim05]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

Worked with Fitzroy and they were in a far better financial state than the Saints are now

[Booney]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

Worked with Fitzroy and they were in a far better financial state than the Saints are now

There's nothing of Fitzroy left.

[whufc]

When the timing is right I reckon the AFL would love nothing more than a 20 team comp. Top 10 in finals.

Thursday Night Game
Friday Night Game
Saturday Lunch Time Game
Saturday Twilight Game
Saturday Night Game x2
Sunday Lunch time Game
Sunday Twilight Game
Sunday Evening Game
Monday Night Game

At some point expand that to a conference system, Victorian clubs and Interstate Clubs. 10 Vic club, 10 interstate clubs (top 5 in each conference make finals)

[whufc]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

Worked with Fitzroy and they were in a far better financial state than the Saints are now

Worked for Brisbane (definitely not Fitzroy) Three premierships though was always going to help things off field accelerate. Was that due to the merger though?

[Jim05]

Gold Coast Bombers?

Yes, I’m sure moving one of the most financial and biggest supported clubs in Australia to the Gold Coast will work

[Booney]

When the timing is right I reckon the AFL would love nothing more than a 20 team comp. Top 10 in finals.

Thursday Night Game
Friday Night Game
Saturday Lunch Time Game
Saturday Twilight Game
Saturday Night Game x2
Sunday Lunch time Game
Sunday Twilight Game
Sunday Evening Game
Monday Night Game

At some point expand that to a conference system, Victorian clubs and Interstate Clubs. 10 Vic club, 10 interstate clubs (top 5 in each conference make finals)

Non-Victorian*

[Jim05]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

Worked with Fitzroy and they were in a far better financial state than the Saints are now

There's nothing of Fitzroy left.

Enough that Brisbane get plenty of memberships from Victoria and good crowds often. I still love seeing the guernsey being rolled out too

[Booney]

Enough that Brisbane get plenty of memberships from Victoria and good crowds often. I still love seeing the guernsey being rolled out too

When Brisbane play nobody thinks of Fitzroy.

Nobody.

[Brodlach]

The logical choice would be to send one of the poor Melbourne clubs up to the Gold Coast similar to Fitzroy/Brisbane.
In this case though it should be more of a takeover with the Melbourne club keeping their colours, name etc and basically killing off the Suns name, logo etc.
The new club can pick the 40 best players from both sides
Gold Coast Saints?
Tasmania then come in as the 18th side.
Won’t happen though as the AFL are already talking about WA3 and further expansion

Do you reckon that kind of set up would work. I know in America franchises pack up and move cities keeping their names/colours etc and it works for them over there but not sure it would work for us.

Worked with Fitzroy and they were in a far better financial state than the Saints are now

There's nothing of Fitzroy left.

Disagree, Brisbane do it very well.

[RB]

I'm struggling to work out how Gold Coast spent $27m in one year on employees.

[RB]

When the timing is right I reckon the AFL would love nothing more than a 20 team comp. Top 10 in finals.

Thursday Night Game
Friday Night Game
Saturday Lunch Time Game
Saturday Twilight Game
Saturday Night Game x2
Sunday Lunch time Game
Sunday Twilight Game
Sunday Evening Game
Monday Night Game

At some point expand that to a conference system, Victorian clubs and Interstate Clubs. 10 Vic club, 10 interstate clubs (top 5 in each conference make finals)

More than 8 teams making finals would be ridiculous.

I.e. I expect it to happen.

[Brodlach]

I'm struggling to work out how Gold Coast spent $27m in one year on employees.

Nearly half of that would be player payments

[Wedgie]

I'm struggling to work out how Gold Coast spent $27m in one year on employees.

Stuey Dew's snacks.