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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:49 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
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daysofourlives wrote:The biggest problem in here is the , it doesnt effect me so who cares attitude of 95% of the posters.


The irony here is that one of the central themes of your ravings over the last year or so is that, because 95% of people won't be seriously affected by catching COVID-19, we should just let it spread through the community and sod the 5% of elderly or immuno-compromised folks who get seriously ill or die.

I should also point out that even if we took that 'It doesn't affect me so who cares' attitude, many of the 95% would actually be affected by the enormous strain that would be placed on our hospitals.


I think you misunderstand my post or i wasnt clear enough.
Because these lockdowns havent effected your jobs and havent hurt your hip pocket here in SA you are happy to go along with supporting these lockdowns, Put yourself in the position of being a business owner like the one i saw who had a 4pm deadline to order food for the weekend, then Andrews announces a lockdown at 5pm. How do you reckon they feel, do you reckon suicide hasnt crossed their mind? All at the same time the AFL is well aware of what will be happening well ahead of any announcements.
You wankers on here joke about having a few days holiday if we were to go into a 3 or 5 day lockdown, its disgusting and time you were called out on it.
From the point of view a busine owner it interesting pt. The **** don't get how bad shit can be and the lockdowns are shit.

Too much, and bloody scams and sht
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby DOC » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:30 pm

Well said Stan.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:39 pm

Yeah I would agree.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:32 am

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Booney wrote:The "do lockdowns work" question is everything you need to know about the bloke. :lol:


of course they dont ******* work, Victoria is on No5 ffs, if they worked why do they keep having them, didnt think you were that stupid?


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:58 am

Why would the government ban a drug that has the potential to kill the virus in 2 days, in favour of a vaccine that's untested?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:01 am

Booney wrote:
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Booney wrote:The "do lockdowns work" question is everything you need to know about the bloke. :lol:


of course they dont ******* work, Victoria is on No5 ffs, if they worked why do they keep having them, didnt think you were that stupid?


You're quite brilliant.


You're quite the slow learner aren't you, grade 3, the best 2 years of your life?
Whats the number we need before the penny drops that they don't work?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Dutchy » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:23 am

Interesting looking at the stats around the world, case numbers going up but death rate remaining relatively low, yet this variant is supposed to be the worst yet?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby RB » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:56 am

daysofourlives wrote:Why would the government ban a drug that has the potential to kill the virus in 2 days, in favour of a vaccine that's untested?
https://www.monash.edu/discovery-instit ... n-48-hours


I read this article (published 3 April 2020).

A few things worth quoting:

"Whilst shown to be effective in the lab environment, Ivermectin cannot be used in humans for COVID-19 until further testing and clinical trials have been completed to establish the effectiveness of the drug at levels safe for human dosing."

"The potential use of Ivermectin to combat COVID-19 remains unproven, and depends on pre-clinical testing and clinical trials to progress the work."

"Dr Wagstaff cautioned that the tests conducted in the study were in vitro (i.e. in an artificial environment) and that trials needed to be carried out in people."

I.e. rather than being banned by the government, Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 is still in the pre-clinical testing phase. As with any drug (including the AZ and Pfizer vaccines) there are a number of tests that have to be passed before the use of Ivermectin can be approved, and more evidence is needed as to Ivermectin's safety and effectiveness before being approved for use:

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-a ... treatments

I note that the vaccines that have been approved in Australia passed these rigorous assessments prior to being approved.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:15 am

RB wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Why would the government ban a drug that has the potential to kill the virus in 2 days, in favour of a vaccine that's untested?
https://www.monash.edu/discovery-instit ... n-48-hours


I read this article (published 3 April 2020).

A few things worth quoting:

"Whilst shown to be effective in the lab environment, Ivermectin cannot be used in humans for COVID-19 until further testing and clinical trials have been completed to establish the effectiveness of the drug at levels safe for human dosing."

"The potential use of Ivermectin to combat COVID-19 remains unproven, and depends on pre-clinical testing and clinical trials to progress the work."

"Dr Wagstaff cautioned that the tests conducted in the study were in vitro (i.e. in an artificial environment) and that trials needed to be carried out in people."

I.e. rather than being banned by the government, Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 is still in the pre-clinical testing phase. As with any drug (including the AZ and Pfizer vaccines) there are a number of tests that have to be passed before the use of Ivermectin can be approved, and more evidence is needed as to Ivermectin's safety and effectiveness before being approved for use:

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-a ... treatments

I note that the vaccines that have been approved in Australia passed these rigorous assessments prior to being approved.


lol, so how has the covid vaccine been approved then?
Why is there no will or support from the government to find out if Ivermectin works? What does the government have to lose if a 50cent treatment works and kills covid in 2 days? Ill tell you waht the have to lose, the whole scam falls apart and their control over the population is gone. its worked in India for covid where it also is used for other treatments.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby FlyingHigh » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:02 pm

Dutchy wrote:Interesting looking at the stats around the world, case numbers going up but death rate remaining relatively low, yet this variant is supposed to be the worst yet?


Was listening to an infectious disease doctor on the radio last week and he said what usually happens with these sort of diseases is that survive they mutate to become more easily spreadable, but their impact can decrease, however like he said this may mean severe illness/ICU rather than death.
And the long-term 10, 20, 30 year consequences which we can't know about yet, but I'm sure we've all heard the stories of some having lingering health issues even after recovery from the virus itself.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby RB » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:10 pm

daysofourlives wrote:lol, so how has the covid vaccine been approved then?


Well for starters, by being proven to work safely on humans.

Details on the approval process are available here:

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine ... al-process
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:29 pm

And the conditioning begins with talk of the Vic lockdown being extended by a week already
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:33 pm

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Yep its all about your health, how do you reckon Victorians are feeling about this?
Anybody who still believes this shit deserves what they get.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:39 pm

RB wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:lol, so how has the covid vaccine been approved then?


Well for starters, by being proven to work safely on humans.

Details on the approval process are available here:

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine ... al-process


It has not been proven to work safely on humans, 390 deaths says its not safe, it should be removed from use pending further studies, in the mean time lets give Ivermectin a go, guarantee it wont kill anyone. Its already been in use for other treatments and tested for that.

Nothing will change your mind. Its easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:41 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
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daysofourlives wrote:The biggest problem in here is the , it doesnt effect me so who cares attitude of 95% of the posters.


The irony here is that one of the central themes of your ravings over the last year or so is that, because 95% of people won't be seriously affected by catching COVID-19, we should just let it spread through the community and sod the 5% of elderly or immuno-compromised folks who get seriously ill or die.

I should also point out that even if we took that 'It doesn't affect me so who cares' attitude, many of the 95% would actually be affected by the enormous strain that would be placed on our hospitals.


I think you misunderstand my post or i wasnt clear enough.
Because these lockdowns havent effected your jobs and havent hurt your hip pocket here in SA you are happy to go along with supporting these lockdowns, Put yourself in the position of being a business owner like the one i saw who had a 4pm deadline to order food for the weekend, then Andrews announces a lockdown at 5pm. How do you reckon they feel, do you reckon suicide hasnt crossed their mind? All at the same time the AFL is well aware of what will be happening well ahead of any announcements.
You wankers on here joke about having a few days holiday if we were to go into a 3 or 5 day lockdown, its disgusting and time you were called out on it.


Yep i have watched story after story re Melbourne business owners especially in the hospitality industry these poor owners in tears re restrictions lockdowns etc bankruptcies long term businesses closing up thus destroying peoples souls mental well being leading to suicide depression.

But every one else is open Supermarkets Petrol Stations Sports Stadiums etc the new Delta Flu does not like these places :lol:

These numbskulls that are in power still take home their big salary every week.

Watched a story the other night young bloke in tears owner of two businesses in hospitality has used his own savings to keep staff employed estimates he has lost up to $ 4 Million .

Absolutely heartbreaking and disgusting what these so called leaders/idiots are doing to the population.

Of course the media keeps the FEAR going apparently its still Covid 19 and not the Delta Flu.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Dr Psyber this vid for you and your medical expertise.

A prominent Doctor/Specialist in Texas who has reported his finding/opinions to a Senate Committe on Health and Human Services and if you have time to watch it please do and i want your honest opinion of Dr Peter McCullough.

https://www.todayville.com/theres-anoth ... treatment/

"Within two days of this testimony (March 10) the Texas Senate introduced legislation to mandate information on early treatment be provided to every positive covid-19 patient. The key now is for doctors to act.


But of course on cue we then have the lefty driven fact checkers already discrediting him.

Why is it that so many proffessionals Doctors Therapists in the medical field with degrees and years of experience and in some cases proven treatments banned deleted and stopped from getting the message out on certain platforms for providing their medical opinions ??????
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby cracka » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:17 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:Dr Psyber this vid for you and your medical expertise.

A prominent Doctor/Specialist in Texas who has reported his finding/opinions to a Senate Committe on Health and Human Services and if you have time to watch it please do and i want your honest opinion of Dr Peter McCullough.

https://www.todayville.com/theres-anoth ... treatment/

"Within two days of this testimony (March 10) the Texas Senate introduced legislation to mandate information on early treatment be provided to every positive covid-19 patient. The key now is for doctors to act.


But of course on cue we then have the lefty driven fact checkers already discrediting him.

Why is it that so many proffessionals Doctors Therapists in the medical field with degrees and years of experience and in some cases proven treatments banned deleted and stopped from getting the message out on certain platforms for providing their medical opinions ??????

He probably hasn't paid the peer review fee
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby RB » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:23 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Nothing will change your mind.


On the contrary, my mind can be changed - by facts and evidence.

In the meantime, I'd encourage anyone who wasn't sure about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines available in Australia to talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:29 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Why would the government ban a drug that has the potential to kill the virus in 2 days, in favour of a vaccine that's untested?
https://www.monash.edu/discovery-instit ... n-48-hours


Well well Daisy some of us have been down this path before and have shown many many videos from Doctors from all around the world who utilise lots of these alternate treatments Yep DOCTORS who have great experience and success with cheap existing drugs.


But they all stipulate treatment must be commenced upon early onset of Flu/Virus

Yeah but this information is taboo and should not be discussed on social platforms and is not acceptable to the Vaccine companies/multinationals who will eventually make squillions of DOLLARS from Vaccines.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby locky801 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:06 pm

Bet somehow a particular Football Club somehow will be exempt from this


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o Self-quarantine for 14 days
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