by Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:41 pm
by Dinglinga75 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:48 pm
by gadj1976 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:12 pm
by Jase » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:21 pm
I didn't think Sydney were even in lockdown?gadj1976 wrote:I could also put this under Things I don't Understand
People are protesting in Sydney and Melbourne about lockdowns, with face masks on.
by daysofourlives » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:40 pm
by daysofourlives » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:42 pm
Apachebulldog wrote:This is very very very interesting.
India apparently has herd immunity.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/07/23/study-2 ... -achieved/
by daysofourlives » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:43 pm
Dutchy wrote:Jim05 wrote:Trouble with Sydney as it has been throughout is that people aren’t staying at home. In the multicultural areas especially people are still visiting friends and family every day. I know in some cultures family life is important but the message just isn’t getting through
I believe they have only just brought in the 10km rule
by daysofourlives » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:01 pm
Psyber wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Psyber wrote:Unfortunately, even people who don't have the virus, and are therefore free to travel under those proposed rules, can subsequently pick it up from some casual contact who does have it, even if without knowing they have, and then in their further travels pass it on again, without necessarily ever manifesting symptoms themselves. This allows spread to occur to those who are vulnerable and some may die as a consequence.
OK it is probably a little rare, and seen as something of a long shot - but it can happen, and then escalate rapidly.
So, until we have the vulnerable vaccinated, and a high percentage of potential symptomless carriers too, we have to be careful.
Ignoring even that smaller risk to the vulnerable is at least negligent and selfish, and at worst callous - or if deliberate even murderous...
What are we waiting for?
Most other western countries have a high % of vaccination already.
Why can’t the government roll this out quicker if that’s the answer?
The problem was that we aimed to get first a vaccine we could make here, and then tried to buy alternatives from overseas as well to increase our supply in the early stages, selecting the ones that stacked up best in trials at the time. Then Belgium and some other countries where those extras were being made blocked the companies making them from exporting the vaccine to us until they had enough at home...
The second issue is that the one we can make here does have a small risk of adverse reactions in younger people, and that has given ammunition to the anti-vaxxer movement, such that suggesting we use the one we do have a plentiful supply of on younger people has triggered a hysterical over-reaction. Even the young have much less risk from a bad reaction to the AZ vaccine than they do from catching Covid - especially the newer strains.
by RB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:08 pm
daysofourlives wrote:Apachebulldog wrote:This is very very very interesting.
India apparently has herd immunity.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/07/23/study-2 ... -achieved/
We have no hope of achieving herd immunity because of our draconian lockdowns.
Sydney is the only state that has some hope of getting there. They are still showing the way forward, they may as well drop their restrictions and stop getting tested and counting cases.
by Booney » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:11 pm
RB wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Apachebulldog wrote:This is very very very interesting.
India apparently has herd immunity.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/07/23/study-2 ... -achieved/
We have no hope of achieving herd immunity because of our draconian lockdowns.
Sydney is the only state that has some hope of getting there. They are still showing the way forward, they may as well drop their restrictions and stop getting tested and counting cases.
There wouldn't be too many people who'd argue that Sydney are showing the way forward at the moment.
by daysofourlives » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:21 pm
Booney wrote:RB wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Apachebulldog wrote:This is very very very interesting.
India apparently has herd immunity.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/07/23/study-2 ... -achieved/
We have no hope of achieving herd immunity because of our draconian lockdowns.
Sydney is the only state that has some hope of getting there. They are still showing the way forward, they may as well drop their restrictions and stop getting tested and counting cases.
There wouldn't be too many people who'd argue that Sydney are showing the way forward at the moment.
Towards hundreds of cases a day though.
by Booney » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:32 pm
by mots02 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:02 pm
Booney wrote:Do the people protesting today just expect the authorities to lift all restrictions? I mean, how stupid would you need to be to do the very thing that will ensure what you're protesting to go on for longer, most likely with more restrictions? Quite stupid.
by Booney » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:26 pm
mots02 wrote:Booney wrote:Do the people protesting today just expect the authorities to lift all restrictions? I mean, how stupid would you need to be to do the very thing that will ensure what you're protesting to go on for longer, most likely with more restrictions? Quite stupid.
getting punchy with horses isn't going to win you too many friends either.
by MW » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:34 pm
by Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:38 pm
daysofourlives wrote:Great to see the protests around the country today, warms my heart and provides some light at the end of the tunnel.
by mots02 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:42 pm
Apachebulldog wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Great to see the protests around the country today, warms my heart and provides some light at the end of the tunnel.
I guess some of the citizens are starting to wake up
Most have had enough how long can governments keep referring to this years Flu as Covid 19 to keep the FEAR going.
If you wanna watch some heavy protests watch around midnight tune in to Ruptly News apparently all of France will be protesting.
by DOC » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:44 pm
by Apachebulldog » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:46 pm
mots02 wrote:Apachebulldog wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Great to see the protests around the country today, warms my heart and provides some light at the end of the tunnel.
I guess some of the citizens are starting to wake up
Most have had enough how long can governments keep referring to this years Flu as Covid 19 to keep the FEAR going.
If you wanna watch some heavy protests watch around midnight tune in to Ruptly News apparently all of France will be protesting.
67 million? that will be an impressive protest.
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