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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:00 am

Bombers can give BZT and 73 for Duursma
Port can give 25 and 73 for Ratugolea
Bombers can accept 63 from Hawks for D'Ambrosio
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Eagles2014 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:04 am

Booney wrote:Port will get 3 of the 4 done today.


With potential 10-15 more trades likely to get done today, are the AFL doing their usual trick of wanting them all done for Foxtel in the last hour or so? :shock:
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:06 am

Eagles2014 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port will get 3 of the 4 done today.


With potential 10-15 more trades likely to get done today, are the AFL doing their usual trick of wanting them all done for Foxtel in the last hour or so? :shock:


AFL have brought the trade window forward an hour to 2pm AEDT.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:13 am

Jack Ginnivan has agreed to be traded and a deal between Hawthorn and Collingwood is essentially done.

The Hawks and Pies will each swap their future second-round picks as the basis of the deal, with some other selections mixed in.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:17 am

Geelong prepared to accept pick 25 and a future fourth for Ratugolea. Port need to find a future fourth. Could get it from Essendon in Duursma-Zerk Thatcher deal. Want a future second. So Port very close to landing all four targets. Sweet will be pick 50
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:22 am

You do seem to bring players in but other than JHF (his dad’s connection helped), they haven’t been high quality players ( A Graders), more role players. Your stars have been drafted and developed.

Who will be traded to get you back in the draft next year, will have to be someone of high quality to get a high enough pick in what is likely to be a good draft ?

Soldo is a good solid pick up definitely, the other 3 the jury is out.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:32 am

Brodlach wrote:You do seem to bring players in but other than JHF (his dad’s connection helped), they haven’t been high quality players ( A Graders), more role players. Your stars have been drafted and developed.

Who will be traded to get you back in the draft next year, will have to be someone of high quality to get a high enough pick in what is likely to be a good draft ?

Soldo is a good solid pick up definitely, the other 3 the jury is out.


Not many A graders are ever recruited out of turn, most are go home factor ( Dawson and Rankine ).

That drafting has been recent, Port's A graders ( Rozee, Butters, Houston ) are all 25 or under, that's why a draft or two missed now isn't as much of a concern for mine.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:40 am

Ginnivan to Hawthorn basically confirmed
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:46 am

Signed off on the move when he went to Moonee Valley the night before the GF. Simple as that.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:57 am

Eagles2014 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port will get 3 of the 4 done today.


With potential 10-15 more trades likely to get done today, are the AFL doing their usual trick of wanting them all done for Foxtel in the last hour or so? :shock:


After watching a doco im not so sure thats the case.

Pressure makes people make silly decisions so i think in a lot of cases club will use the clock to their advantage if they need to.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:07 pm

Booney wrote:Signed off on the move when he went to Moonee Valley the night before the GF. Simple as that.


Yep they've pretty much given him away for a packet of salt and vinegar chips. Swapped their second round picks so have lost him to go 10-15 places up the draft order.

Obviously done his dash at that club in a big way.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:53 pm

If the rumours going around are true then the photo, on top of the races, were enough for Collingwood to offload him.
Made his position untenable.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:54 pm

tigerpie wrote:If the rumours going around are true then the photo, on top of the races, were enough for Collingwood to offload him.
Made his position untenable.
Silly boy.


what photo?
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:25 pm

Collingwood gets: 33, Haw's F2 + Haw's F3
Hawthorn gets: Ginnivan, 39, Coll's F2 + Coll's F4
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Corona Man » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:32 pm

PatowalongaPirate wrote:Collingwood gets: 33, Haw's F2 + Haw's F3
Hawthorn gets: A Chutney Ducker, 39, Coll's F2 + Coll's F4

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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:02 pm

The irony if Collingwood supporters boo Ginnivan
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
tigerpie wrote:If the rumours going around are true then the photo, on top of the races, were enough for Collingwood to offload him.
Made his position untenable.
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what photo?

Mcstay and his missus went into a toilet cubicle for some fun time gf night.
Jack took a photo of her over the door and passed it around to people.
Apparently it was Mcstay that took the photo of Jack doing coke so he's paid him back.
Allegedly!
But he's gone so there must be some truth to it....maybe?
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Fricky » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:41 pm

With Ginnivan gone, it's crazy that this stat exists

History on hold: Extraordinary premiership streak rolls on after Pie's exit
No premiership-winning side has ever played together as a group again


JACK Ginnivan was on the fringe of selection leading into the 2023 decider after back-to-back finals as the starting substitute, but by earning his spot and joining Hawthorn three weeks later he has ensured an historic Grand Final trend continues.

Ginnivan looks like being the only premiership Magpie from this year to leave the club, ending Collingwood's chances of taking the field with the same group of players again the following year.

Joel Selwood's retirement at the end of 2022 meant Geelong could not achieve the feat, while ruckman Luke Jackson's move to Fremantle at the end of 2022 stopped Melbourne's 2021 premiership team from reforming.

Indeed, through retirements, injury or change of clubs, no premiership team has ever been able to take the field again in a match in one of the competition's more unlikely streaks.

The Magpies would have come close. With no other trades, retirements or delistings among their premiership 23, it was only Ginnivan's exit that prevented them from creating a bit of history in 2024.

The trade acquisition of Fremantle forward Lachie Schultz was the critical move that meant their line-up was guaranteed change next year, and Ginnivan was the player most likely to make way at selection if he remained with the club.

The Magpies' premiership 23 would have faced other challenges, with defender John Noble pushing to regain the spot he held for 83 consecutive matches and key forward Dan McStay returning from injury.

High marking forward Ash Johnson and young inside midfielder Finlay Macrae are others that will put pressure on to break into the team next year, while the Magpies hold one pick in the first round of the AFL Draft.

Geelong in 2023 underwent too much change to come close, with Max Holmes, Oliver Henry, Esava Ratugolea, Tanner Bruhn and Jack Bowes playing large parts of the season after missing out on the 2022 premiership.

Richmond's 2020 premiership team had the chance to play together in 2021 but didn't, with the retirements of David Astbury and Bachar Houli later ending their chances of doing so.

The 2019 team never had the chance after dual premiership wingman Brandon Ellis moved to Gold Coast, while Richmond's 2017 Grand Final team all remained the following season but never re-formed.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:54 pm

Trade paperwork approved.

The Western Bulldogs trade Jordon Sweet to Port Adelaide for its Round Three pick (currently 50).
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Purple Warrior » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:55 pm

tigerpie wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
tigerpie wrote:If the rumours going around are true then the photo, on top of the races, were enough for Collingwood to offload him.
Made his position untenable.
Silly boy.


what photo?

Mcstay and his missus went into a toilet cubicle for some fun time gf night.
Jack took a photo of her over the door and passed it around to people.
Apparently it was Mcstay that took the photo of Jack doing coke so he's paid him back.
Allegedly!
But he's gone so there must be some truth to it....maybe?

Where's Booney telling everyone to STFU if you weren't in the cubicle. Different rules for different posters
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