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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:37 am

gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:44 am

whufc wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.


Move day 1 to Saturday when a majority of people can attend.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Jim05 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:02 am

whufc wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.
Has to be minimum days between tests I’m thinking. The Boxing Day test and NY test get locked in first and then everything fixtured around that.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:14 am

gadj1976 wrote:
whufc wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.


Move day 1 to Saturday when a majority of people can attend.


Personally i would think day 1 crowds are the best regardless of what day they are on, so have them on a Friday where you get a sell out.

Then day 2 / 3 on the weekend when ticket sales will be great due to being the weekend.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:22 am

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Move day 1 to Saturday when a majority of people can attend.

They won’t do that because that’s when the majority of followers play, it hinders attendance and more important to them, it decreases viewer numbers and that’s where the revenue is generated.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:25 am

I could be wrong (I was once) but for memory day 1 for Adelaide tests used to be on a Friday, it was the most sacred day of the year for any south Aussie cricket enthusiast, it was difficult to get a ticket regardless of the opposition.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:52 am

Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


Didn't think the first two days crowds were too bad, but it did look and feel ordinary in such a soulless stadium. Agree that Adelaide has been screwed this year. Hard to believe WA keep producing far better cricketers than SA but the general public have little interest in Test cricket.

Need to get back to the WACA.

And on that, it's a shame sport can't find a niche for 25-30k ovals (rather than stadiums) like the WACA, the old Adelaide Oval and Princess Park could have been for footy. There's talk about the Gabba redevelopments for the Olympics and what might happen to their tests. A couple of hills and a couple of stands like the old Chappell stands (maybe a touch bigger) at Alan Border Oval and they could have a great Test IMO.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:57 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Move day 1 to Saturday when a majority of people can attend.

They won’t do that because that’s when the majority of followers play, it hinders attendance and more important to them, it decreases viewer numbers and that’s where the revenue is generated.


Hinders attendance? As opposed to making it day 3 when the test is almost over?
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby stampy » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:07 am

with series being so compacted these days, it is now common for a test to start on a thursday with another starting the following friday

CA stuffed it up this year cos the 2nd only starts next tuesday

incompetence at its finest

perth and brisbane attendances are always crap unless its the ashes
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:33 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:I could be wrong (I was once) but for memory day 1 for Adelaide tests used to be on a Friday, it was the most sacred day of the year for any south Aussie cricket enthusiast, it was difficult to get a ticket regardless of the opposition.

Yes I remember Adelaide test matches mostly starting on Fridays and Brisbane test matches would start Thursdays.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:35 am

Jim05 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?
Adelaide test is starting on a Wednesday and against a real minnow yet I’m willing to bet we have a better attendance than Perth
Interesting to see how the Adelaide test match being a regular day match effects attendance aswell.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:45 am

The Dark Knight wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?
Adelaide test is starting on a Wednesday and against a real minnow yet I’m willing to bet we have a better attendance than Perth
Interesting to see how the Adelaide test match being a regular day match effects attendance aswell.


South Australian's seem to be test match nuffies and will attend, despite the quality of the opposition or day it starts. Other states, I don't see the passion like we do here.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:11 am

gadj1976 wrote:
South Australian's seem to be test match nuffies and will attend, despite the quality of the opposition or day it starts. Other states, I don't see the passion like we do here.

Numbers are distorted given the timing that we usually get it and the fact it’s a twilight test.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby RB » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:23 am

Even taking those factors into account LM, and going back 30+ years, we've always pulled in a lot more than Perth and Brisbane.

When you consider the population living within 100km of the Gabba, some of the non-Ashes Brisbane crowds have been ridiculous.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:27 am

whufc wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.


Because Tests aren't the priority anymore in the Australian summer, the BBL shit show is.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:29 am

Booney wrote:
whufc wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Perth crowds
Day 1 a pathetic 16k turned up and all we hear is that it’s a working day, not school holidays blah, blah, blah
Day 2 another pathetic 17k crowd and all we hear is it’s Friday and they will pour through the gates on Saturday
Day 3 is smaller crowd of 16k despite being on a Saturday. Now the excuses are it’s too hot, Pakistan are batting too slow, Langer isn’t coaching, Bancroft isn’t playing blah, blah, blah
Day 4 and absolutely woeful crowd of 9k show up and cue more excuses

If SACA don’t grow a pair and demand better from CA they all need to step down. Absolutely sick and tired of CA pandering to the ingrates of WA and it’s always Adelaide that gets screwed


I still can't fathom why we start tests on a Thursday. That's a crowd killer to start with. By the time the weekend arrives, the test is often near decided. Why would you stump up money for the Sunday of a test in Australia these days?


100% agree and cant fathom why....

You would have to think with the years on years of data CA would have from attendances to tv ratings etc there must be a reason they haven't permanently moved tests to a Friday start. Just can't figure out what that would be.


Because Tests aren't the priority anymore in the Australian summer, the BBL shit show is.


And there’s more to do in Brisbane and Perth.
Little Ol’ Adelaide doesn’t have much else when it comes to entertainment either.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:45 am

amber_fluid wrote:
And there’s more to do in Brisbane and Perth.
Little Ol’ Adelaide doesn’t have much else when it comes to entertainment either.

Should never have closed story book cottage or puzzle park
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:50 am

amber_fluid wrote:And there’s more to do in Brisbane and Perth.
Little Ol’ Adelaide doesn’t have much else when it comes to entertainment either.


The Adelaide Test is the social event of the early summer, it's the first or last catch up before the Xmas shit arrives and people use it to get together with mates as much as it is to go to the cricket.

The RM set hoovering up bags of Kensington coffee in the Pimms tent account for 10,000 almost each day. :lol:
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:02 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
And there’s more to do in Brisbane and Perth.
Little Ol’ Adelaide doesn’t have much else when it comes to entertainment either.

Should never have closed story book cottage or puzzle park


Or Greenhill adventure park.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:04 am

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:And there’s more to do in Brisbane and Perth.
Little Ol’ Adelaide doesn’t have much else when it comes to entertainment either.


The Adelaide Test is the social event of the early summer, it's the first or last catch up before the Xmas shit arrives and people use it to get together with mates as much as it is to go to the cricket.

The RM set hoovering up bags of Kensington coffee in the Pimms tent account for 10,000 almost each day. :lol:


I’ll admit I only go and drink piss to catch up with mates in the members out the back on the green.
You can bash the pimms up your arse though. Terrible stuff.
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