dedja wrote:The same mob who won the last election in a landslide.
Just because they won in a landslide, doesn't mean they're outstanding at their job.
Nationally, and even more so in SA, the Libs are an absolute basket case, West Coast were a more effective opponent for AFL teams than the Libs are to Labor.
dedja wrote:The same mob who won the last election in a landslide.
Just because they won in a landslide, doesn't mean they're outstanding at their job.
Nationally, and even more so in SA, the Libs are an absolute basket case, West Coast were a more effective opponent for AFL teams than the Libs are to Labor.
Yep, agree.
The point I was making that despite their issues people still voted for them in preference for the alternative who are imploding as we speak.
I’ve stated many times before, the likes of Hawke, Keating and Howard, regardless of whether you agreed with their policies or not, will seemingly never be seen again.
dedja wrote:The same mob who won the last election in a landslide.
Yet a couple of months beforehand, the Coalition were in front in the polls
Like Marshall / Liberals in SA, their campaign was astonishingly bad
Dutton trying to be Trump 2.0 was quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen
Marshall thinking he was going to waltz it in was just as bad. Mind you, 12 months before Mali was saying, in private, that he didn't expect they would win
dedja wrote:No doubt, but just highlighting that there are currently some non-typical global influences
There have been for around 5 years
One of our major domestic problems is power https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-28/ ... /105941120 Despite the BS that renewables are cheaper, we are heading towards a melt down of industry for no practical reason Nett Zero will achieve absolutely nothing in Australia except make people like Turnbull and Holmes a Court richer whilst the rest of us pay and lefties wanking on
The thing about Net Zero is that it's an idea and not a plan. This is what we want but how do we get there? Is there even possible with our current technology limitations?
I'm not sure it is. The bigger picture is consistently missed, and the big game is forgotten.
Simon Holmes a Court would be a grafter if he wasn't a billionaire thanks to Daddy.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
dedja wrote:The same mob who won the last election in a landslide.
Yet a couple of months beforehand, the Coalition were in front in the polls
Like Marshall / Liberals in SA, their campaign was astonishingly bad
Dutton trying to be Trump 2.0 was quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen
Well no, at the time it was looming the goods then we all got to see what Trump round 2 was about annnnnndddd it turns our Australians aren't as keen on bat shit crazy.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
Jimmy_041 wrote: Marshall thinking he was going to waltz it in was just as bad. Mind you, 12 months before Mali was saying, in private, that he didn't expect they would win
Very little pointed towards Marshall being swamped as he was but I agree, they appeared to think the COVID management would keep them in for another term.
wenchbarwer wrote: Dutton trying to be Trump 2.0 was quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen
Well no, at the time it was looming the goods then we all got to see what Trump round 2 was about annnnnndddd it turns our Australians aren't as keen on bat shit crazy.
I disagree, Dutton made the mistake of thinking Australians looked up to Trump and the way he does politics, he was only listening to his rank and file though and not average Joe Australia.
Jimmy_041 wrote: Marshall thinking he was going to waltz it in was just as bad. Mind you, 12 months before Mali was saying, in private, that he didn't expect they would win
Very little pointed towards Marshall being swamped as he was but I agree, they appeared to think the COVID management would keep them in for another term.
Yep but he **** up because he wasn't a c*** like Andrews and McGowan He was talked into opening the state up for the Test Their reasoning was the exact opposite of what they had been preaching
Barnaby Joyce says he was “asked to leave” the Coalition by former Liberal leader Peter Dutton, but that his fallout with Nationals Leader David Littleproud pushed him to quit.
Mr Joyce resigned from the Nationals on Thursday, ignoring pleas from former colleagues and reshaping parliament on the final sitting day of the year.
Addressing the Lower House, Mr Joyce singled out Mr Littleproud’s claim that his backbench banishment earlier this year was a matter of “generational change”.
“Now, in the past, I’ve been asked to leave twice by Peter Dutton, and I suppose the last change, when they talk about generational change, it’s pretty it’s pretty clear what people want,” Mr Joyce told the chamber.
“One of the biggest things, though ... is that after five weeks, I announced this about five weeks ago, apart from a 92-second phone conversation with the leader, I’ve had no communication with either leader of the National Party or the deputy leader of the National Party to try and resolve this, and that’s disappointing.
“So after 30 years with the National Party, I’m resigning from the party, and that really leaves me with a heavy heart, and I apologise for all the hurt that that will cause other people, I really do, but it’s not the most important thing.”
NewsWire understands MPs and senators were texting him in the lead up, urging him against making the announcement.
Mr Joyce announced he intended to leave the party he once led last month, citing an irreparable breakdown in his relationship with Mr Littleproud.
He did not resign at the time but did boycott Nationals party room meetings despite personal invitations to resume attending. Since announcing his intention, he has also played into rumours of a move to One Nation, and dined with leader Pauline Hanson this week.
In a snap press conference after his resignation, Mr Joyce said he was “strongly considering” joining One Nation but had not yet decided.
Asked whether he feared about the future of the Coalition, Mr Joyce said it was “changing everywhere”, and singled out hard-right populist figures internationally, including Nigel Farage in the UK, Marine La Pen in France, the “MAGA movement within the Republican party”, and Germany’s AFD, which he said was “very insidious”.
He said he expected it to be “really hard for the Coalition to win the next election”.
“I hope they do, but I think it’s going to be really difficult from where they are, and therefore in the house, especially if you sort of on the outer, you’re not just relevant … you’re a discordant voice at the best,” My Joyce said.
One Nation already recommended their voters preference the Coalition over Labor pretty much everywhere at the last election.
About 75%* followed this recommendation (although most would probably have done so even if ON had recommended the opposite, I think - the data suggests minor parties rarely actually have much influence in terms of who their votes preference).