Australian International Season 2022/23

[mighty_tiger_79]

Oh man
I've seen someone saying what a courageous innings it was.


Sorry, but Deano has him covered by the length of the straight

Deano lost 8 kgs that innings.

Yep.
There just isn't a comparison.

[The Dark Knight]

Dunno if I totally agree with that. Their current scenario is clearly short sighted management of their Test line up and not blooding new players at the right times. When all these recent blokes retired they then replaced them all at once with inexperienced players that are just getting fed to the wolves. The West Indies have a better batting lineup than this mob.

Doesn't help de cock quit on them to get the cash. Then Markram just hasn't lived up to the hype since 2018 and there best bat last year in Peterson is out hurt.

de Kock retired citing family reasons in December last year with his wife close to giving birth to their first child.

Like you said Markham has struggled for awhile now hence him not being on this tour and losing Petersen was a big loss as he'd just established himself at number three.

I agree with LK, SA had an absolute golden generation having one of the best teams world cricket will ever see and when they all eventually retired one after another in a relatively short space of time it was also going to be tough to replace them. The quota system makes things tricky for them too obviously, it just so happened that their players of colour that were apart of their great teams- Amla, Ninti and Philander were absolute world class cricketers plus guys like Duminy and Prince were solid international cricketers too. Now it's really only Rabada who is world class.

On Jarrod Kimber's podcast channel 99.94 there's a South African podcast featuring SA journalist Neil Manthorp who is currently on ABC Grandstand commentating and him and his co-host Lungani Zama have discussed all the things mentioned in the previous posts. The money topic continually comes up on the Podcast and the money offered by the T20 competitions is substantially more than what SA cricket pays their test cricketers. The fact that the South African first class teams only play seven games in a season is continually a talking point aswell.

I'm not sure how many of the current South African Test squad will be playing in the SA T20 competition (Bavuma didn't even get selected by a franchise initially) but looking through their active test cricketers SA don't currently have any players 'missing' due to T20 cricket, Dwaine Pretorious is one guy who continually gets T20 gigs in the various competitions but isn't close to test team and Rilee Rossouw currently playing for the Thunder in the BBL but he hasn't played test cricket.

To say the fans deserve more than what has been dished up is harsh, it's not CA's fault this South African team has struggled with the bat recently and they're not as good as they used to be.

Agree with all the sentiments already posted, great insight. I'm taking notes to bring up with my mates!

When I said we deserve more than this, it was a go at the West Indies, South Africa and the plight of test cricket rather than Cricket Australia. It's disappointing that out of 2 touring teams, not one is making a spectacle of it. WI battled in Perth and had they batted first and made 300 it might have been different. They are at least looking on the improve (finally). And I miss the touring matches against state sides as lead in games, now it's just a once off match against a PMXI (I hope when Australia go to England next year they play Netherlands and Ireland as part of the tour). I think CA have a small part to play in the fixturing of things (length of BBL season etc) but its really on each nation to ensure that they are looking after the game of cricket as a whole which includes a strong test competition, not just immediate dollars of T20 cricket.

I don't mind the tour matches against the CAXI (effectively Australia A) as it exposes Australia's second tier players to international opposition as a whole team and they may come up against that opposition if any of the players are to move into the test squad if there's any injuries or when they eventually move into the test team.

And yes you're spot on, it's on each nation to look after the game in their country and that mainly how much money they pump into their cricket programs.

[The Dark Knight]

Oh man
I've seen someone saying what a courageous innings it was.


Sorry, but Deano has him covered by the length of the straight

Deano lost 8 kgs that innings.

Yep.
There just isn't a comparison.

Who said it MT? A commentator? That’s a ridiculous comparison lol.
I remember learning about that innings watching Cricket in the 80s on ABC!

[Lightning McQueen]

That’s awesome Rabada

[Spargo]

I’m not comparing Warner’s performance with anyone’s.
I’m just appreciating it.

[The Dark Knight]

3/355 lead by 166
Warner and Smith's partnership of 239 is their new highest in test cricket.
Head 33* (29)
Can Green join the party?

[Lightning McQueen]

Who said it MT? A commentator? That’s a ridiculous comparison lol.
I remember learning about that innings watching Cricket in the 80s on ABC!

AB said to him that he couldn’t retire hurt, if he did he would be replaced by a Queenslander.

Greg Ritchie tells the story well.

[Lightning McQueen]

I’m not comparing Warner’s performance with anyone’s.
I’m just appreciating it.

It was a spectacle.

[stampy]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

[stampy]

I too miss the matches between the touring side and the state teams prior to the first Test. When I was a teenager the touring team often arrived in Adelaide in late October and then played SA, VIC, NSW and QLD in the 4 weeks leading up to the first Test at the Gabba - so all members of the touring party played generally 2-3 games. Meanwhile the Australian players were playing at least 3 Shield games for their respective states as well - so there were no excuses for any players in either side involved in the 1st Test to be rusty or out of form. So there was a huge build up in excitement by the time we got to late November for the Gabba Test, especially if the touring team had beaten the state teams in their tour matches along the way. These days the touring team is ripe to be slaughtered at the Gabba due to no sensible preparation at all as players are involved in meaningless T20s or ODI around the world through November and jet into Brisbane seemingly 5 minutes before the 1st Test coin toss. No wonder Warney always cleaned up at the Gabba !!

from sometime in the 70s touring teams would land in perth and get smacked by WA first up

[Armchair expert]

R.Hurt leading wicket taker so far

[Lightning McQueen]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.

His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.

[whufc]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.

His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.

Agree

As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.

[batmanbegins]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.

His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.

Agree

As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.

I have an immense dislike for Warner so I'm biased and have always argued he can't be considered great due to his overseas average of 34. However it is hard to argue he's not one of the great openers with 25 test tons and the rate with which he scored made a huge difference.

[whufc]

Geez Rabada has been poor. Such a disappointment.

[Lightning McQueen]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.

His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.

Agree

As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.

I always admire players that retire on their own terms and not keep clogging up a spot a younger bloke could be fulfilling, regardless of the sport.

Steve Waugh’s finale was a classic example

[whufc]

well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie

I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.

His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.

Agree

As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.

I have an immense dislike for Warner so I'm biased and have always argued he can't be considered great due to his overseas average of 34. However it is hard to argue he's not one of the great openers with 25 test tons and the rate with which he scored made a huge difference.

Yeah happy to concede on ‘great’ but in our top 3 openers ever.

For mine Taylor and Hayden comfortable ahead of him due to their overseas record

Warner at third and then a distance to the likes of Slater, Langer.

Ps Lawry probably sits alongside Warner as well

[Lightning McQueen]

Geez Rabada has been poor. Such a disappointment.

Playing 2nd fiddle to Chuck Norris wouldn’t help his cause, he is slower than him and bowls without purpose.

[whufc]

Geez Rabada has been poor. Such a disappointment.

Playing 2nd fiddle to Chuck Norris wouldn’t help his cause, he is slower than him and bowls without purpose.

He’s been so good all year though and then turned to puss over here.

[Lightning McQueen]

I don’t think Elgar sets the right fields to make him lethal, I really like the look of Jansen and he should’ve returned after lunch instead of gifting the Aussies easy runs with a spinner that doesn’t turn the ball.

Field placements were crap all day