Round 10 Central v Adelaide
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Happy to concede that poor technique can get you suspended, no problems there at all. Also don't expect the 'rules' to change for weather conditions, ultimately there is one set of rules in the game and that's it.
I cant be convinced though that we haven't got the balance slightly wrong when it comes to outcome vs intent. I struggle to concede a tackle gone wrong should be more weeks than a completely non footballing act.
I'm happy for the league to get super strict, I'm happy for Grant to get 5 but a bloke who belts another player not going for the ball shouldn't be getting less than that either.
I cant be convinced though that we haven't got the balance slightly wrong when it comes to outcome vs intent. I struggle to concede a tackle gone wrong should be more weeks than a completely non footballing act.
I'm happy for the league to get super strict, I'm happy for Grant to get 5 but a bloke who belts another player not going for the ball shouldn't be getting less than that either.
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Re: Round 10 Central v Adelaide
Lifting someone off the ground in a tackle isn’t necessary and is dangerous.whufc wrote:Happy to concede that poor technique can get you suspended, no problems there at all. Also don't expect the 'rules' to change for weather conditions, ultimately there is one set of rules in the game and that's it.
I cant be convinced though that we haven't got the balance slightly wrong when it comes to outcome vs intent. I struggle to concede a tackle gone wrong should be more weeks than a completely non footballing act.
I'm happy for the league to get super strict, I'm happy for Grant to get 5 but a bloke who belts another player not going for the ball shouldn't be getting less than that either.
Lifting someone high enough, that they can be pivoted to be turned upside down (intentionally or not) is dangerous and reckless.
Comparing that action to a strike isn’t comparing apples for apples and is irrelevant
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Watching the video again, that part of the ground was neither wet nor slushy, that's a cop out.
The rucks manage to contest the throw in without losing their feet or slipping, and Grant was able to pivot and dump Herbert on his head.
The rucks manage to contest the throw in without losing their feet or slipping, and Grant was able to pivot and dump Herbert on his head.
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That’s exactly the type of dangerous tackle that has never and will never be part of the game. Correct weight in terms of the penalty.
No point trying to compare it to anything else, it's a no brainer to severely penalise and stamp out of the game.
No point trying to compare it to anything else, it's a no brainer to severely penalise and stamp out of the game.
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Re: Round 10 Central v Adelaide
mouthy farrrk as well, had words with him after we smashed them a couple of weeks agoSpargo wrote:Dirty Westies player…stampy wrote:brady searle 6 matches in 2023Dogs64 wrote:Grant gets 5. What's the recent biggest penalties? Imagine if he'd "pinned" the arms.
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Wait … what?stampy wrote:mouthy farrrk as well, had words with him after we smashed them a couple of weeks agoSpargo wrote:Dirty Westies player…stampy wrote:brady searle 6 matches in 2023Dogs64 wrote:Grant gets 5. What's the recent biggest penalties? Imagine if he'd "pinned" the arms.
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I can only assume you haven’t seen the incident and are only referencing others descriptions? At no time does he lift the player, let alone your “high enough, that they can be pivoted” comment! Ok, I get I’m in the minority on this and happy to stay in that lane but let’s stick to the facts and not embellish to exaggerate a point.mots02 wrote:Lifting someone off the ground in a tackle isn’t necessary and is dangerous.whufc wrote:Happy to concede that poor technique can get you suspended, no problems there at all. Also don't expect the 'rules' to change for weather conditions, ultimately there is one set of rules in the game and that's it.
I cant be convinced though that we haven't got the balance slightly wrong when it comes to outcome vs intent. I struggle to concede a tackle gone wrong should be more weeks than a completely non footballing act.
I'm happy for the league to get super strict, I'm happy for Grant to get 5 but a bloke who belts another player not going for the ball shouldn't be getting less than that either.
Lifting someone high enough, that they can be pivoted to be turned upside down (intentionally or not) is dangerous and reckless.
Comparing that action to a strike isn’t comparing apples for apples and is irrelevant
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Let’s not get pedantic, his head was pylon driven into the ground.
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It doesn't get any better each time I watch it. Pins the arm, slams his head into the ground then rolls over on him.
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You musn't have watched it. His left arm is clearly not pinned, can't see his right.wenchbarwer wrote:It doesn't get any better each time I watch it. Pins the arm, slams his head into the ground then rolls over on him.
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‘Cause that would have made it all better if he broke his neck and ended up in Neil Sachse territory.Dogs64 wrote:You musn't have watched it. His left arm is clearly not pinned, can't see his right.wenchbarwer wrote:It doesn't get any better each time I watch it. Pins the arm, slams his head into the ground then rolls over on him.
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5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.
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Sure, I must have clicked on a different link in this thread and not checked the SANFL appDogs64 wrote:You musn't have watched it. His left arm is clearly not pinned, can't see his right.wenchbarwer wrote:It doesn't get any better each time I watch it. Pins the arm, slams his head into the ground then rolls over on him.
Take off your rose coloured glasses, and watch the slow motion replay, starting at 0.17. At 0.23 you can clearly see Grant's arm on top of Herbert's, meaning he pinned the right arm before slamming his head into the deck then going on with it by rolling on top of him.
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UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.
Pleaded guilty, Tribunal Chairman states an appropriate example needed to be set ... so good luck with that.Central District’s Harry Grant has been handed a five-match penalty at the SANFL Tribunal for engaging in rough conduct with Eagles’ Kade Herbert at Maughan Thiem Kia Oval on Saturday.
Grant, who was referred directly to the SANFL Tribunal on Tuesday, pleaded guilty to the Tribunal panel which included Ian White (Chair), Angus Kurtze and Garry Palasis.
In setting the penalty, Chairman White determined that the Tribunal had to be concerned with more than penalising Harry Grant and that an appropriate example needed to be set for all players in the League and in Community Leagues around the state.
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Thank you.dedja wrote:UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.Pleaded guilty, Tribunal Chairman states an appropriate example needed to be set ... so good luck with that.Central District’s Harry Grant has been handed a five-match penalty at the SANFL Tribunal for engaging in rough conduct with Eagles’ Kade Herbert at Maughan Thiem Kia Oval on Saturday.
Grant, who was referred directly to the SANFL Tribunal on Tuesday, pleaded guilty to the Tribunal panel which included Ian White (Chair), Angus Kurtze and Garry Palasis.
In setting the penalty, Chairman White determined that the Tribunal had to be concerned with more than penalising Harry Grant and that an appropriate example needed to be set for all players in the League and in Community Leagues around the state.
Fingers crossed.
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I watched it live in the tv but had not seen it since.Hazydog wrote:I can only assume you haven’t seen the incident and are only referencing others descriptions? At no time does he lift the player, let alone your “high enough, that they can be pivoted” comment! Ok, I get I’m in the minority on this and happy to stay in that lane but let’s stick to the facts and not embellish to exaggerate a point.mots02 wrote:Lifting someone off the ground in a tackle isn’t necessary and is dangerous.whufc wrote:Happy to concede that poor technique can get you suspended, no problems there at all. Also don't expect the 'rules' to change for weather conditions, ultimately there is one set of rules in the game and that's it.
I cant be convinced though that we haven't got the balance slightly wrong when it comes to outcome vs intent. I struggle to concede a tackle gone wrong should be more weeks than a completely non footballing act.
I'm happy for the league to get super strict, I'm happy for Grant to get 5 but a bloke who belts another player not going for the ball shouldn't be getting less than that either.
Lifting someone high enough, that they can be pivoted to be turned upside down (intentionally or not) is dangerous and reckless.
Comparing that action to a strike isn’t comparing apples for apples and is irrelevant
I have now and happy to remove my reference of ‘lifting him high enough’
He did however lift and pivot him forcefully enough that the eagles player ended up with his legs in fhe air and his head pointing towards the ground. Unless you’re suggesting the eagles player somehow contributed to that manoeuvre, that movement of lifting / controlling / pivotting/ making the eagles player be upside down and then landing on him is attributed to Grant.
Sorry for the embellishment, but the recklessness of Grant remains, no matter how we on here choose to describe it.
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Well playedUK Fan wrote:Thank you.dedja wrote:UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.Pleaded guilty, Tribunal Chairman states an appropriate example needed to be set ... so good luck with that.Central District’s Harry Grant has been handed a five-match penalty at the SANFL Tribunal for engaging in rough conduct with Eagles’ Kade Herbert at Maughan Thiem Kia Oval on Saturday.
Grant, who was referred directly to the SANFL Tribunal on Tuesday, pleaded guilty to the Tribunal panel which included Ian White (Chair), Angus Kurtze and Garry Palasis.
In setting the penalty, Chairman White determined that the Tribunal had to be concerned with more than penalising Harry Grant and that an appropriate example needed to be set for all players in the League and in Community Leagues around the state.
Fingers crossed.
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More chance of @Booney becoming a Crows supporter than winning that!UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.
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No AFL in the SANFLam Bays wrote:More chance of @Booney becoming a Crows supporter than winning that!UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.
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So you’re saying there’s a chaaaaaaance .am Bays wrote:More chance of @Booney becoming a Crows supporter than winning that!UK Fan wrote:5 games is to harsh and I hope we appeal.
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