Glenelg v Sturt Match Review

[cennals05]

OK, we've go the 'legs in play now in this thread ... where's the segue to Central?

Gowans = Thugs

[MAY-Z]

OK, we've go the 'legs in play now in this thread ... where's the segue to Central?

Gowans = Thugs

there is almost as much evidence to suggest it was them

[SANFLnut]

Why would you issue a "please explain" to someone in such circumstances? There's no evidence either Kirk or Cubillo were even involved! If they came back and simply said they didn't know anything, what would (or could) the league do? Suspend them for not knowing anything despite some fans claiming they should?

This whole thread long ago became a massive joke, sadly though it's getting worse. There's no evidence from anywhere at all do proceed with.

As for avoiding future incidents without witnesses, the only option is to add cameras to pick up the whole ground. No you can't simply tell the umpires to watch more closely because there are 9 umpires on the ground I believe, how many do you want to be watching the play? If none of the 17 teammates these guys had on the ground saw it, seems a bit rich to expect the umpires to.

There is video that suggests Kirk was right near Wundke just before he hit the deck, that is enough grounds to ask him what he saw, heard, thought happened etc. The option of having an SANFL employee attend Monday night training and spend an hour asking questions a couple of times a year is significantly cheaper than setting up behind the goals cameras at four grounds every round.

I do think in the three umpire system that the non controlling umpire who is inside 50 should position himself so that he can see the players in his area of the ground rather than just watch the ball. The players must all watch the ball. My role as a spectator is to watch the game, his is to do what ever is necessary to make the game run properly. If that means not watching the ball then too bad. My suggestion though was that the umpires observer in the grandstand could make a note of incidents in the game that may need reviewing or investigating.

How do you know none of the players on the ground saw what happened if noone has asked them? If Tambling was the nearest Sturt player, has anyone asked him what he knows?

I don't accept that the correct response to fairly serious injuries (even if short lasting) that involve a player being stretchered off is "the TV coverage did not show anything so we will just pretend it did not happen" it damages our competition and that is my concern.

[am Bays]

Oh FFS!!!! Just when you thought this thread was almost going to slide down to page two of the SANFL board

Your thoughts about Cubillo being close to Neale and the commentators referring immediately to Neale going down as a result of an incident with Cubillo, or do you just want to continue this four day witch hunt on Kirky???

Took Cross and Meaney et al. almost a minute to finger Kirky and then only after Sturt players started to remonstrate with him.

Your concern for the 2nd smallest player on the field is well and truly noted.

Your not the nut in the SANFL who only thought to write a press releases on the Wundke incident are you???

[Grahaml]

Why would you issue a "please explain" to someone in such circumstances? There's no evidence either Kirk or Cubillo were even involved! If they came back and simply said they didn't know anything, what would (or could) the league do? Suspend them for not knowing anything despite some fans claiming they should?

This whole thread long ago became a massive joke, sadly though it's getting worse. There's no evidence from anywhere at all do proceed with.

As for avoiding future incidents without witnesses, the only option is to add cameras to pick up the whole ground. No you can't simply tell the umpires to watch more closely because there are 9 umpires on the ground I believe, how many do you want to be watching the play? If none of the 17 teammates these guys had on the ground saw it, seems a bit rich to expect the umpires to.

There is video that suggests Kirk was right near Wundke just before he hit the deck, that is enough grounds to ask him what he saw, heard, thought happened etc. The option of having an SANFL employee attend Monday night training and spend an hour asking questions a couple of times a year is significantly cheaper than setting up behind the goals cameras at four grounds every round.

I do think in the three umpire system that the non controlling umpire who is inside 50 should position himself so that he can see the players in his area of the ground rather than just watch the ball. The players must all watch the ball. My role as a spectator is to watch the game, his is to do what ever is necessary to make the game run properly. If that means not watching the ball then too bad. My suggestion though was that the umpires observer in the grandstand could make a note of incidents in the game that may need reviewing or investigating.

How do you know none of the players on the ground saw what happened if noone has asked them? If Tambling was the nearest Sturt player, has anyone asked him what he knows?

I don't accept that the correct response to fairly serious injuries (even if short lasting) that involve a player being stretchered off is "the TV coverage did not show anything so we will just pretend it did not happen" it damages our competition and that is my concern.

If a Sturt player saw something then that would be evidence and then either the SANFL or Sturt could use it to form the basis of an investigation or a charge.

So you suggest the SANFL talk to Kirk, then what if he says he didn't see anything? Suspend him for not providing an answer?

As for the umpire's observer, I'd suggest they are there to observe the umpires. No doubt if anyone involved in an official capacity saw something they could no doubt provide evidence. As for that nonsense about non controlling umpires let's not forget the main purpose of the umpires being there is to make sure the rules are upheld, that means watching the play a fair bit. They can now keep more of an eye on the play ahead and behind the ball with the extra umpires there but you can't exclusively watch players standing around just in case something happens or you'd miss so much of what you're there for at all!

Like I said, only way to make sure all these things are caught is to film every inch of the ground. We all know the cost of that is prohibitive, so for the very odd occaision when nobody sees anything I think we're going to have to cop it and be thankful that neither "victim" was too badly hurt.

[stampy]

Oh FFS!!!! Just when you thought this thread was almost going to slide down to page two of the SANFL board

Your thoughts about Cubillo being close to Neale and the commentators referring immediately to Neale going down as a result of an incident with Cubillo, or do you just want to continue this four day witch hunt on Kirky???

Took Cross and Meaney et al. almost a minute to finger Kirky and then only after Sturt players started to remonstrate with him.

Your concern for the 2nd smallest player on the field is well and truly noted.

Your not the nut in the SANFL who only thought to write a press releases on the Wundke incident are you???

thats what **** me off the most is that neales hit more than 50 metres behind the play has almost been ignored, the kid had xrays for a broken jaw yet no one gives a flying daffy

[SANFLnut]

Oh FFS!!!! Just when you thought this thread was almost going to slide down to page two of the SANFL board

Your thoughts about Cubillo being close to Neale and the commentators referring immediately to Neale going down as a result of an incident with Cubillo, or do you just want to continue this four day witch hunt on Kirky???

Took Cross and Meaney et al. almost a minute to finger Kirky and then only after Sturt players started to remonstrate with him.

Your concern for the 2nd smallest player on the field is well and truly noted.

Your not the nut in the SANFL who only thought to write a press releases on the Wundke incident are you???

I actually wrote that both incidents should be looked at. Then a Glenelg fan responded about Kirk, so I replied to that post. My concern is for the reputation of the competition and I think it has suffered due to lack of investigation of these incidents by SANFL. My guess is the press release was written because the Wundke incident gained exposure in the paper. I played no part in that. I am also not responsible for comments made by ABC commentators.

[CUTTERMAN]

Oh FFS!!!! Just when you thought this thread was almost going to slide down to page two of the SANFL board

Your thoughts about Cubillo being close to Neale and the commentators referring immediately to Neale going down as a result of an incident with Cubillo, or do you just want to continue this four day witch hunt on Kirky???

Took Cross and Meaney et al. almost a minute to finger Kirky and then only after Sturt players started to remonstrate with him.

Your concern for the 2nd smallest player on the field is well and truly noted.

Your not the nut in the SANFL who only thought to write a press releases on the Wundke incident are you???

thats what **** me off the most is that neales hit more than 50 metres behind the play has almost been ignored, the kid had xrays for a broken jaw yet no one gives a flying daffy

Ring your club then. My guess is he doesn't have a broken jaw?

[HOORAY PUNT]

I thought he knew

[stampy]

I thought he knew

does somebody need a hug yorrick?

[CUTTERMAN]

so I guess he doesn't have a broken jaw?

[bulldogproud2]

I think that the grassy knoll was transferred from Dallas to Glenelg for this match. Was there a repository building nearby?

[fish]

I think that the grassy knoll was transferred from Dallas to Glenelg for this match. Was there a repository building nearby?

Snouts bar?

[HOORAY PUNT]

I thought he knew

does somebody need a hug yorrick?

Nah ,just waiting patiently for your eveidence . I think you may have been hugging something yourself though.

Good onya Stampy , you are gold mate. Toodlepip !

[The Sleeping Giant]

This thread has gone on so long the same jokes are getting recycled.

[HOORAY PUNT]

so I guess he doesn't have a broken jaw?

Stampy ? No glass .

[stampy]

I thought he knew

does somebody need a hug yorrick?

Nah ,just waiting patiently for your eveidence . I think you may have been hugging something yourself though.

Good onya Stampy , you are gold mate. Toodlepip !

what evidence are you waiting for yorrick? as yu said toodlepip champion!! time to flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[CUTTERMAN]

Maybe it was a magic jaw then

[HOORAY PUNT]

oh and can someone tell cubillo that neale's jaw isnt broken, people in glass houses

Oh ,what hapenned ? Did you actually see it ?

yeah so stuyfa!!

This . You saw it but have been Brett Backwelling since . Surely you have made up something by now.

[stampy]

Maybe it was a magic jaw then

reckon you might have lock jaw fella