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Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:11 am
by Booney
Lightning McQueen wrote:
mots02 wrote:
mots02 wrote:Anyone can be a DH, takes a special talent and sustained effort to be an official Bell End


As an example…. Taking cheap shots at Ports announcement (or non announcement) could make me, in the eyes of some - a DH

Repeatedly brining it up over a sustained period of time qualifies me as a Bell End.


I hadn't noticed.


"Could"

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:41 pm
by Brodlach
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:Brodie, Wehr and Fiorini would all be upgrades on Jackson, Williams and Atkins.

Personally, I’m not sure about that


Be sure.

Brodie barely played AFL for 3 seasons, Wehr is meh and plays as a sub more often as nit. Fiorini would be the better of the three but no game winner

If they were Crows recruits what would your honest assessment be?

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:50 pm
by beef
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:Brodie, Wehr and Fiorini would all be upgrades on Jackson, Williams and Atkins.

Personally, I’m not sure about that


Be sure.

Brodie barely played AFL for 3 seasons, Wehr is meh and plays as a sub more often as nit. Fiorini would be the better of the three but no game winner

If they were Crows recruits what would your honest assessment be?

He'd probably say they're upgrades on Gallagher, Murphy & Schoenberg

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:53 pm
by Booney
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:Brodie, Wehr and Fiorini would all be upgrades on Jackson, Williams and Atkins.

Personally, I’m not sure about that


Be sure.

Brodie barely played AFL for 3 seasons, Wehr is meh and plays as a sub more often as nit. Fiorini would be the better of the three but no game winner

If they were Crows recruits what would your honest assessment be?


If they were replacing Jackson, Williams and Atkins I'd say they'd be an upgrade.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:01 pm
by Brodlach
I don’t that beef, and that’s says it all

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:28 pm
by bertiebeatle1
Z Bailey only real possibility for a big name target for Port this off-season & if we were a chance (Crows right into him) it would be more for next year as a FA with the club not wanting to dilute next yrs draft picks (would need to use next yrs first for Bailey & we need that pick).

Fine with the 3 coming in as depth players. Better than what we had. Not sure how anyone can think differently that has actually watched the three guys Boon mentioned. Jackson & Williams haven't had any offers from any other clubs (That is a fact as of about a week ago) so that might tell you what you need to know as well. Only 1 Port player that got cut has received an offer from another club.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:43 pm
by Booney
bertiebeatle1 wrote:Z Bailey only real possibility for a big name target for Port this off-season & if we were a chance (Crows right into him) it would be more for next year as a FA with the club not wanting to dilute next yrs draft picks (would need to use next yrs first for Bailey & we need that pick).

Fine with the 3 coming in as depth players. Better than what we had. Not sure how anyone can think differently that has actually watched the three guys Boon mentioned. Jackson & Williams haven't had any offers from any other clubs (That is a fact as of about a week ago) so that might tell you what you need to know as well. Only 1 Port player that got cut has received an offer from another club.


This and that.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:45 pm
by Brodlach
None are any good

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:53 pm
by Booney
You're missing the point by some margin.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:55 pm
by Brodlach
Nah, understand your point but as I said none are any good


See if any kick 7 in the SANFL ;)

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:56 pm
by Booney
That's a wonderful metric to use and demonstrates the lack of research in your appraisal.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:19 pm
by Trader
At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:21 pm
by Jim05
Kenny weighing a job up at Essendon.
Has met with other Melbourne clubs but apparently not keen to move over there just yet. The Essendon job would see him work 3 days at the club and the rest remotely

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:22 pm
by bertiebeatle1
Trader wrote:At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.


We brought the 2 18 or 19 year olds in + Liddy, in the MSD. Thin draft this yr makes it hard to bring in even more (Still plenty of list spots available)

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:27 pm
by Dutchy
Jim05 wrote:Kenny weighing a job up at Essendon.
Has met with other Melbourne clubs but apparently not keen to move over there just yet. The Essendon job would see him work 3 days at the club and the rest remotely


I would have thought a year off would be more beneficial to Kenny

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:28 pm
by Booney
Trader wrote:At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.


Thanks Jim. ;)

Our development of latter picks in the draft have failed ( Williams 23, Jackson 55 ) and the arrival of Collins is an important addition to a department that hasn't been able to deliver on that front but in many ways that's because we've been able to bring in or select top end talent at the draft through smart recruiting.

If we looked at this/next year as doing the same thing and expecting a different result then this can only be a good move. The three ( of many ) mentioned that are departing have had their go and it's time to move on. We don't have a draft hand this year with next year and the year after important to us so we'll take some risks with recruits and train ons over summer.

For once we're doing exactly that, changing and taking risks and given the last several seasons I don't think too many Port fans will see that as a bad thing.

Ramm (18), Lai (SSP 19) and Mackinlay (22) have been added to the list for nothing. There's your three. ;)

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:28 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Trader wrote:At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.


If the 3 coming in rack up a combined total of 20 games in 2026 we're hitting the bottom quarter of the table.

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:30 pm
by Booney
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Trader wrote:At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.


If the 3 coming in rack up a combined total of 20 games in 2026 we're hitting the bottom quarter of the table.


If the 3 going out racked up a combined total of 20 games in 2026 we're hitting the bottom quarter of the table. 8)

Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:31 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:
Trader wrote:At this risk of being labelled "our Jim" again, here goes:

The three being mentioned to come in over the three going out are probably slightly better, that is fair.

However, the concern I have is the three going, when brought in, were kids, that possibly could have turned out to be ok AFL footballers. That didn't happen.
Where as the three coming in, while probably better than the three going out, the in's have already confirmed they aren't good footballers. They are simply list cloggers.

I'd much rather we pick up three 18 year olds that have 'potential' than three blokes who we know will be ranked between 25 and 40 on the list.

Comparing new ins to failed footballers doesn't win you flags.


Thanks Jim. ;)

Our development of latter picks in the draft have failed ( Williams 23, Jackson 55 ) and the arrival of Collins is an important addition to a department that hasn't been able to deliver on that front but in many ways that's because we've been able to bring in or select top end talent at the draft through smart recruiting.

If we looked at this/next year as doing the same thing and expecting a different result then this can only be a good move. The three ( of many ) mentioned that are departing have had their go and it's time to move on. We don't have a draft hand this year with next year and the year after important to us so we'll take some risks with recruits and train ons over summer.

For once we're doing exactly that, changing and taking risks and given the last several seasons I don't think too many Port fans will see that as a bad thing.

Ramm (18), Lai (SSP 19) and Mackinlay (22) have been added to the list for nothing. There's your three. ;)


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Re: AFL 2025 Silly Season

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:33 pm
by Booney
Damned if they do, damned if they don't hey?