The South Australian Political Landscape

[Sojourner]

Are the State Liberals really any chance of winning with Redman as leader? Their response to not having any policies is that they dont have financial details to base policies on, irrespective of that being true, it still does not wash with voters who want to know why they should vote for someone?

[Psyber]

Are the State Liberals really any chance of winning with Redman as leader? Their response to not having any policies is that they dont have financial details to base policies on, irrespective of that being true, it still does not wash with voters who want to know why they should vote for someone?

The fact that the state ALP is so busy promoting the idea that someone will make a challenge suggests they think the Libs will win under Isobel Redmond.
Terry Groom - former Minister in the Bannon government and one of those who got Jay W. the ALP job - has said as much to me.

The Libs learned last time that if you announce policies too soon the ALP will steal them.
e.g. The Libs announced a new stadium for the Torrens area in the west and the ALP whipped up the Adelaide Oval redevelopment a few days later.
Policies will come when the election is on.

[dedja]

doesn't matter ... rightly or wrongly she is a dead (wo)man hanging.

[Sky Pilot]

I like Isobel Redman okay - never met her - but she seems genuine and competent. What she needs is a bit of coaching from seasoned campaigners and attack dogs such at Pyne and Downer. If she headed a business she would be taken aside and taught the skills she lacked. She also needs an attack dog standing with her. Martin Hamilton-Smith doesn't cut it so her team should enlist a smart-arse young bloke who can stick it to Labor at every opportunity. Similar to Abbott's methods that have so successfully wrecked federal Labor and reduced it to rabble.

[dedja]

... She also needs an attack dog standing with her. Martin Hamilton-Smith doesn't cut it so her team should enlist a smart-arse young bloke who can stick it to Labor at every opportunity ...

Steven Marshall says hello ...

[GWW]

Oh they're thinking of whacking us with a land tax now.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/850 ... uty-reform

May have to vote these clowns out, but I really do fear what sort of slash and burn the Liberals may bring in. I'm thinking may be a slightly smaller version of what Kennett did a few years ago in Victoria.

Can't win either way Perhaps Nick X can be voted in to form a Govt.

[tipper]

Oh they're thinking of whacking us with a land tax now.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/850 ... uty-reform

May have to vote these clowns out, but I really do fear what sort of slash and burn the Liberals may bring in. I'm thinking may be a slightly smaller version of what Kennett did a few years ago in Victoria.

Can't win either way Perhaps Nick X can be voted in to form a Govt.

never will that hippocrite get my vote, nor any party that he becomes a part of. and probably nor will he get any North Adelaide fans vote. "no pokies" my arse. he seems happy to take donations from pokie pubs when it suits him. it was all just a convenient vehicle for him to drum up support, then again, i suppose that isnt any diferent to any other pollie...

[Psyber]

Oh they're thinking of whacking us with a land tax now. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/850 ... uty-reform
May have to vote these clowns out, but I really do fear what sort of slash and burn the Liberals may bring in. I'm thinking may be a slightly smaller version of what Kennett did a few years ago in Victoria.
Can't win either way Perhaps Nick X can be voted in to form a Govt.

Basically in hard times people stop paying Stamp Duty by stopping buying property and the government's income is reduced.
The state government wants control of this which they can achieve by introducing a residential Land Tax.
1. They get to take your money regardless of hard times.
2. They get to set the rate, or fiddle with the valuation system, to suit themselves and the Councils.

But the real sting in the tail was Jack Snelling's suggestion that a "Commonwealth solution" was preferable.
I assume this means the SA ALP will be backing a rise in the GST rate...

On the other hand there is pattern in SA and Victoria.
The people tend to vote ALP, the ALP run up debts, then the people get angry and vote in the Libs.
Then the Libs do what is the only possible option to reduce the debt, tighten the budget, and raise capital by selling off what they can.
Finally, the people forget why this has to be done and go back to voting for the ALP who promise to give out free money again..

(Too much Greek ancestry in these states, perhaps? )

[Psyber]

never will that hippocrite get my vote, nor any party that he becomes a part of. and probably nor will he get any North Adelaide fans vote. "no pokies" my arse. he seems happy to take donations from pokie pubs when it suits him. it was all just a convenient vehicle for him to drum up support, then again, i suppose that isnt any diferent to any other pollie...

I don't know what happened here when I was in Melbourne from 1998 to 2008 to make you see him as a hypocrite, but I've known him personally since 1986 when we met over mutual clients.

As a practising Barrister he was genuinely concerned about people being kept "lubricated" with free drinks and pointed at the pokies till they were broke.
I sent him three WorkCover patients I'd seen who were ripped off in this way during the 1990s by one particular venue in the NE suburbs.
He took a cut in income to quit being a Barrister and become an MP over the issue..

I met him again at a mutual friend's wedding in 2009.
He still seems to hold the same views.
I'd vote for him.

[dedja]

It's all going to end in tears ...

THE calculated campaign undermining Isobel Redmond's leadership of the Liberal Party continues with the leaking of a document showing she threatened legal action against her own party over the spending of a levy on her salary.

Ms Redmond made the threat in an October, 2006 letter when then-leader Iain Evans introduced a 5 per cent levy on MPs' salaries to raise election funds.

Her warning was rebutted by party officials at the time in a terse letter stating they were "disappointed that you apparently consider that a threat of legal action against the Liberal Party is appropriate".


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6442999717

[fish]

What next - Alexander Downer!

Alexander Downer touted as possible SA State Liberal Party leader

A REPLACEMENT for Opposition Leader Isobel Redmond may have to come from outside the parliamentary party, senior party sources believe.

They say the party is being torn apart by the continued destabilisation of Ms Redmond's leadership because the obvious challenger, Health spokesman Martin Hamilton-Smith, does not have the numbers.

Angry Liberals say the issue has turned attention away from the shortcomings of the Weatherill Government.

Former foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer is being touted in political circles as a possible replacement. leading the party from outside Parliament, until a seat can be found.

[Gozu]

I hope they put him in, what a rabble the Libs are.

[dedja]

why not a Downer/Pyne ticket?

[Sky Pilot]

why not a Downer/Pyne ticket?

Pyne's having too much fun ripping into that tool Albanese in Federal Parliament to chuck it away and play second fiddle to Downer. But I agree either of them would make super Liberal leaders and be eminently qualified and hugely electable

[Gozu]

why not a Downer/Pyne ticket?

Pyne's having too much fun ripping into that tool Albanese in Federal Parliament to chuck it away and play second fiddle to Downer. But I agree either of them would make super Liberal leaders and be eminently qualified and hugely electable

Love your humour SP!

[Sky Pilot]

why not a Downer/Pyne ticket?

Pyne's having too much fun ripping into that tool Albanese in Federal Parliament to chuck it away and play second fiddle to Downer. But I agree either of them would make super Liberal leaders and be eminently qualified and hugely electable

Love your humour SP!

thanks - I respect your views

[scoob]

What would you rather... an ex federal minister becoming a state premier or an ex state premier becoming a federal minister?

[fish]

Apparantly AD might not want the job, according to this article.

Who's next? John Howard?

[Sky Pilot]

I think the most I important issue facing the state at the next election is to limit the influence of the loopy Greens as much as possible.

[Sojourner]

Apparantly AD might not want the job, according to this article.

Who's next? John Howard?

The strategy of bringing in a leader from outside of the party seemed to work pretty well in Qld where they reduced the ALP to being able to hold cabinet meetings in a Toyota Tarago. - The Liberals even passed special concessions for the ALP to have resources they were not entitled to, having lost by such a margin that they no longer had party status in the Parliament.