morell wrote:I also said strength. I don't want to increase scoring. I want to eliminate scoring due to bullshit.
It doesn't have being the nation together, no, but I think that's the one thing missing from our social sporting landscape.
There is such potential there. It's frustrating.
You don’t think it brings the nation together.......... have you got your blinkers on
It brings soccer fans together. I don't think it ingratiates itself amongst the rest of the population as much as it could.
Might I add - soccer fans being hyper sensitive doesn't help.
Criticise footy all you like, **** illt probably join you!
It’s not being hypersensitive
Could you imagine the bloke who owns the only grocery store in Blyth trying to dictate and tell the CEO of Woolworths how he should run the giant chain
Replace Blyth deli owner with Aussie Rules and replace Woolworths with Soccer
whufc wrote:Your suggesting the biggest and most successful sport on earth changes it way to win over a few beef head Aussie Rules fans.
Do you understand how stupid that sounds? You understand the rest of the world is in love with the game?
] Biggest and most successful Sport is highly debatable.
And there is always room for improvement!
I also don't really care about what Uzbekistan and Urguguay are doing, that doesn't affect me. The Australian sporting landscape, does. So all of that is kind of moot.
Lol find a single sport on the global scale that can compete with Soccer. It is undoubtably the ‘world game’ In the same way the term Aussie rules is our national game is used which is very debatable when you take into account crickets reach in every state.
What your overestimating is what the rest of the world feels the sports weakness are. People only complain about diving/games ship when there team is on the wrong. No supporters around the world start booing their own players when they win a penalty from a dive etc
Despite the sport being so ‘soft’ so affected by diving etc the World Cup will see a billion viewers. Most EPL clubs had sold out of season ticket holders we go on and on.
morell wrote:I said "if that's the case" in response to Jim you pelicans
I have faith that they can remove the "simulation" - it was a priority a little while back if I can recall.
its simple. Don't stop the game for injuries. and if you do they cant come back on for 10 minutes. Yellow card and suspend serial divers. And I would also suggest not having penalties for fouls in the box or take them further out
Morell, it’ll never be stamped out. Hasn’t been stamped out in a 100 years it won’t be stamped out within 5mins.
I like that 10 minute off rule but the problem with this being a World game it’ll be hard to change the rule with all the dodgy pricks around the sport, especially the ones who play act the most and that’s everyone!!
Yeah I understand that, but I would never want to see the national Australian side revert to such bullshit. Which is what Jim was suggesting.
If we want to be successful though we have to adapt and if that means we need to “dive” or exaggerate contact then so be it. ALL the big and successful nations do it and that is why it will never be stamped out. The European nations rule world football and they couldn’t care less if a small country on the other side of the world doesn’t like divers or aren’t interested in the game.
morell wrote:If his point had validity, I'd listen.
The problem is as the owner and the Blyth deli he knows how to cater for these needs and demands of the country market. Is Woolworths going to bend over and cater their entire Australia wife product based on bloke that knows about a 300 population town market
What I’m trying to say is your thoughts are the majority in an extremly minor market.
The game caters for the global feel not ocre aussies
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morell wrote:I said "if that's the case" in response to Jim you pelicans
I have faith that they can remove the "simulation" - it was a priority a little while back if I can recall.
its simple. Don't stop the game for injuries. and if you do they cant come back on for 10 minutes. Yellow card and suspend serial divers. And I would also suggest not having penalties for fouls in the box or take them further out
Morell, it’ll never be stamped out. Hasn’t been stamped out in a 100 years it won’t be stamped out within 5mins.
I like that 10 minute off rule but the problem with this being a World game it’ll be hard to change the rule with all the dodgy pricks around the sport, especially the ones who play act the most and that’s everyone!!
Yeah I understand that, but I would never want to see the national Australian side revert to such bullshit. Which is what Jim was suggesting.
If we want to be successful though we have to adapt and if that means we need to “dive” or exaggerate contact then so be it. ALL the big and successful nations do it and that is why it will never be stamped out. The European nations rule world football and they couldn’t care less if a small country on the other side of the world doesn’t like divers or aren’t interested in the game.
whufc wrote:Your suggesting the biggest and most successful sport on earth changes it way to win over a few beef head Aussie Rules fans.
Do you understand how stupid that sounds? You understand the rest of the world is in love with the game?
] Biggest and most successful Sport is highly debatable.
And there is always room for improvement!
I also don't really care about what Uzbekistan and Urguguay are doing, that doesn't affect me. The Australian sporting landscape, does. So all of that is kind of moot.
Soccer is by far the biggest sport in the World and most soccer nations condone and actively encourage diving or milking frees. We can join with the masses or be left behind.
You'd said biggest and most successful. It would depend on how you defined that, hence debatable. But who cares, it's irrelevant.
I agree with your second paragraph except I haven't overestimated how the rest of the world feels. I just don't care. My criticisms should only be taken with the context of the Australian sporting landscape.
I don't think nor have ever said that soccer is soft.
whufc wrote:Your suggesting the biggest and most successful sport on earth changes it way to win over a few beef head Aussie Rules fans.
Do you understand how stupid that sounds? You understand the rest of the world is in love with the game?
] Biggest and most successful Sport is highly debatable.
And there is always room for improvement!
I also don't really care about what Uzbekistan and Urguguay are doing, that doesn't affect me. The Australian sporting landscape, does. So all of that is kind of moot.
Soccer is by far the biggest sport in the World and most soccer nations condone and actively encourage diving or milking frees. We can join with the masses or be left behind.
and its where the money is
If Australia won the world cup as in to host it, you can be sure the youngsters of the football world or many young kids would focus their thoughts and play football in the lead up to the world game coming here and turn away a little from Aussie rules. Hell even Sam newman said it once- If Australia hosts the world cup, it would be a disaster to the Aussie rules game for those years leading up to it at least
Diving will never be eradicated from any contact sport. We are seeing it creep in Aussie rules now.
Video technology can only determine contact or no contact.
In particular in Soccer technology can not determine (when there is contact) whether that is sufficent enough that the player should or should not have fallen over.
My biggest gripe is when a player is at full speed with the ball and his ankle is clipped to which he falls over (yes in a lot of cases they over exaggarent but none the less there was contact)
The Aussie rules head bobs up with ‘oh bloody soft etc etc, barely touched him etc’. Ummmmmm you have obviously never ran a straight line at full speed and had you ankles clipped, you will fall down 99% of the time
Geez rugby union arguably one of the toughest sports on earth teach, train and encourage the Ankle Tap!!!! It’s the most effective way to bring a big boy down
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Hi all, just a reminder that this thread is about the World Cup tournament. If you want to discuss the merits of the game do it elsewhere. Continuing to post about your opinion of the sport as opposed to the goings on in the World Cup will result in you being suspended for the duration of the World Cup. Cheers.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
And morell - I think it’s pretty obvious I’m an AFL super fan but also love the World game, they are not mutually exclusive things like you might think
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on the world cup i love the news report from the russians about the fella who was apperently drunk and drove his taxi into the crowd
they said he lost control of the taxi , where as CCTV camera footage of the incident saw him stop the taxi behind other cars, and then turn right and drive into the crowd
He legged it out of there quick smart before being caught
Dissapointly new footage from a different angle has emerged of the Risdon tackle which shows he won a big piece of the ball first. Unfortunately VAR did not have that footage available to them.