Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
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Get one for Bergman or NWM in returnMW wrote:Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
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still get in earlier in the other rounds.MW wrote:Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
Hearing they will get NAGA access to Cochrane in '26 draft also, which will ease the pain of this year
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not getting pick 4 for Bergman (if ladder stays the same as it is now).
NWM is no certainty either, and you'll need to give up a heap to get him too.
NWM is no certainty either, and you'll need to give up a heap to get him too.
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Be going well to outbid Adelaide for Wanganeen-Milera's services.
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Booney.
You have identified a lack of development in the player range 30-60 ish.
Development coach issue?
You have identified a lack of development in the player range 30-60 ish.
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Thought I’d look it up for incoming trades and free agents only
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Logan Evans signs on for 3 years
Thoughts Booney?
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Just discussing on Twitter, 2 years probably right.Brodlach wrote:Logan Evans signs on for 3 years![]()
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He's played 15 games and he's 19. Last year he had Farrell and Houston flanking him this year he's had Sinn ( 10 games ), Burgoyne ( 36 ) and Jones ( 56 ) working around him. Not sure he's lost his form, he hasn't played 20 games and has lots of promise.
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Absolutely it is.DOC wrote:Booney.
You have identified a lack of development in the player range 30-60 ish.
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Butters loves Kenny, he's the main reason we've held on to him, he wants a flag and it isn't coming from us any time soon, he is gone at seasons end IMO.Booney wrote:Butters I don't have concerns about, Bergman I think will be gone.MW wrote:Keep performing like this for the remainder of the year, and you run a greater risk of losing Butters and Bergman. Pull the trigger now and give Carr more time at the helm. Carr gets a free hit remainder of the year.
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If Butters and Bergman go you should get 3 first rounders back. All depends on which clubs the players want to go toMW wrote:Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
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Butters is made of stern, loyal stuff as Boak is and there's a bit behind the scenes that will make Butters decision to leave a lot harder.Lightning McQueen wrote:Butters loves Kenny, he's the main reason we've held on to him, he wants a flag and it isn't coming from us any time soon, he is gone at seasons end IMO.Booney wrote:Butters I don't have concerns about, Bergman I think will be gone.MW wrote:Keep performing like this for the remainder of the year, and you run a greater risk of losing Butters and Bergman. Pull the trigger now and give Carr more time at the helm. Carr gets a free hit remainder of the year.
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Will be Dogs, Cats or Hawks..............in that order IMO.Fricky wrote:If Butters and Bergman go you should get 3 first rounders back. All depends on which clubs the players want to go toMW wrote:Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
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You'd take pick 8 for Bergman but surely you're not taking a single pick for ButtersLightning McQueen wrote:Will be Dogs, Cats or Hawks..............in that order IMO.Fricky wrote:If Butters and Bergman go you should get 3 first rounders back. All depends on which clubs the players want to go toMW wrote:Not a first rounder thoughDutchy wrote:Privately Carr must be thinking this is the best result for him, there will need to be some patience which is what he needs. Lets say they finished top 4 this year there would have been huge pressure on him to make the next step, now he will get time, and some better draft picks
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Geelong gave up 13,15 and 20 for Jeremy Cameron, he's the only player I can think of in recent memory that you could compare to with the talent on offer.
So it's 3 x 1st rounders or 2 x + the player you have that we want.
Edit - Cameron had played 171 games at GWS, Butters has played 126
So it's 3 x 1st rounders or 2 x + the player you have that we want.
Edit - Cameron had played 171 games at GWS, Butters has played 126
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So
Bergman to Hawks for Pick 8
Butters to Essendon for Picks 5, 9, 24 (they also have 27)
Bergman to Hawks for Pick 8
Butters to Essendon for Picks 5, 9, 24 (they also have 27)
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Geelong also got back 2 x 2nd rounders, so if you want 3 x 1sts you'll be giving up a couple of 2nd rounders as well as Butters.Booney wrote:Geelong gave up 13,15 and 20 for Jeremy Cameron, he's the only player I can think of in recent memory that you could compare to with the talent on offer.
So it's 3 x 1st rounders or 2 x + the player you have that we want.
Edit - Cameron had played 171 games at GWS, Butters has played 126
Also key position are normally valued more than midfielders.
Personally I think you'll get 2 x 1sts for him
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As good as Butters is, and I really rate him, I'm always taking a gun KPF over a gun midfielderBooney wrote:Geelong gave up 13,15 and 20 for Jeremy Cameron, he's the only player I can think of in recent memory that you could compare to with the talent on offer.
So it's 3 x 1st rounders or 2 x + the player you have that we want.
Edit - Cameron had played 171 games at GWS, Butters has played 126
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