Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

[Barto]

[shoe boy]

OHHHH Tony!!!

[bulldogproud2]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

[mick]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

wishful thinking

[The Sleeping Giant]

All in a week. Don't forget no women in cabinet.

[Sky Pilot]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

You're obviously a writer on the ABC's Q&A program

[The Sleeping Giant]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

[Psyber]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Real estate agents try anything to hype up properties, even a few token solar panels.
In looking at buying a property I counter that by pointing out they may be a liability on a Colourbond roof if not properly insulated.
That means insulating the screws too with a special sealant, not just some washers between the frame and the roof.
(Which is rarely ever done.)

[bulldogproud2]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Agreed, so why is the current government wanting to waste billions of dollars on something that will only have to be replaced???? It should just stick with the Labor Party's policy of fibre to the home. The Liberal policy is a HUGE waste of taxpayer money!
Cheers

[bulldogproud2]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

You're obviously a writer on the ABC's Q&A program

.. or just a rational person who can think for themself rather than vote for who a shock jock or a member of the Fourth Estate told me to!!

[Psyber]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Agreed, so why is the current government wanting to waste billions of dollars on something that will only have to be replaced????
It should just stick with the Labor Party's policy of fibre to the home. The Liberal policy is a HUGE waste of taxpayer money!
Cheers

It seems obvious to me that the fibre to the node can be set up more affordably, and more quickly, now, while we are heavily in debt, and that the extension to the home will be able to be done a bit at a time over subsequent years under a maintenance budget in better financial times instead of the government having to borrow a lot more to complete the ALP plan right now, and most people having to wait a lot longer to get anything at all. Some of the copper may well hold up for another decade, or so, allowing the cost to be spread.

[Gozu]

It seems obvious to me that the fibre to the node can be set up more affordably, and more quickly,

I believe Turnbull's line is sooner, cheaper and more affordably!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6E5yX1E0U

I'm with you whilst people might want faster internet they don't need it, much like people don't need to go faster than speeding limits allow with Porsche's that can do a million km's an hour hey Psyber?

[bulldogproud2]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Agreed, so why is the current government wanting to waste billions of dollars on something that will only have to be replaced????
It should just stick with the Labor Party's policy of fibre to the home. The Liberal policy is a HUGE waste of taxpayer money!
Cheers

It seems obvious to me that the fibre to the node can be set up more affordably, and more quickly, now, while we are heavily in debt, and that the extension to the home will be able to be done a bit at a time over subsequent years under a maintenance budget in better financial times instead of the government having to borrow a lot more to complete the ALP plan right now, and most people having to wait a lot longer to get anything at all. Some of the copper may well hold up for another decade, or so, allowing the cost to be spread.

Whilst it is true that the fibre to the node can be done more affordably in the short-term than going straight to having fibre to the home, it will work out to be far more expensive overall. If they just complete the fibre to the home work now, they will not need maintenance work and replacement of the copper. This will ultimately save billions of dollars compared to having to do the job twice. It just seems nonsensical not to do it properly the first time, does it not?

As for the speed of completing the project, the NBN has already been delivered to a proportion of the population. The vast majority of the population would receive the NBN before the Liberal Party deliver their less satisfactory product. It is just 10% of the population who would receive the NBN later than they would receive the fibre to the node. Yes, the Liberal Party would complete the total job first, but until they reach the 90% mark, the NBN would have been ahead.

Additionally, as for the debt levels, even Joe Hockey is begining to realise that Australia has very little debt and has decided to run deficit budgets over the term of this government, placing Australia in further debt (just that now debt is not a big worry in Australia apparently).
Cheers

[Sky Pilot]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

You're obviously a writer on the ABC's Q&A program

.. or just a rational person who can think for themself rather than vote for who a shock jock or a member of the Fourth Estate told me to!!

Who does that?

[The Sleeping Giant]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Real estate agents try anything to hype up properties, even a few token solar panels.
In looking at buying a property I counter that by pointing out they may be a liability on a Colourbond roof if not properly insulated.
That means insulating the screws too with a special sealant, not just some washers between the frame and the roof.
(Which is rarely ever done.)

Nearly everyone I have spoken too about fibre to the home wants it. A lot of people do more than download and browse the old internet.

[tigerpie]

I Know lets have an expressway that only goes one way....sound familiar?

[bulldogproud2]

Things seem to be going from bad to worse to terrible for this new government already.

We now have the debacle over not wanting to report boat arrivals (knowing that the 'stop the boats policy has no hope of working. Admittedly, I am glad it won't and I want to see far more humane treatment of asylum seekers)

Also, the decision by Joe Hockey not to pursue surplus budgets any more, conceding that the Labor Party's management of the economy was how Australia needed it to be.

Additionally, the mass resignation of the NBN Board due to the incompetence of the new government and the knowledge that their Broadband policy would be a terrible one to pursue, with Australia falling way behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed.

One can only hope that for Australia's sake that things start to improve.

You're obviously a writer on the ABC's Q&A program

.. or just a rational person who can think for themself rather than vote for who a shock jock or a member of the Fourth Estate told me to!!

Who does that?

based on the last election, apparently about 40% of the Australian population

[Sky Pilot]

So you are saying that 40 per cent of people voted how they were told to by a shock jock. Who is this person? Where did the 40 per cent come from?

[woodublieve12]

Nbn is an interesting one. My guess is most people want fibre to the home. All contracts have too be fulfilled for the next 3 years. So we could have a situation where you have the nbn to the home for free, but the person across the road or around the corner have to pay $2000-$3000 for the same service. Nbn to the home is already becoming a selling point in the real estate market.

I doubt that actually - I suspect only big business or the real computer and download addicts will need it.
And the connection to the home in FTTH is not really free as we are all paying for it in the budget.

I'm quite happy with Fibre to the Node.
25 mbps would suit my needs fine and 50mbps would be an indulgence I may elect to pay more for.
In the long run the copper from the node to the home will rot away and be replaced by fibre, as part of routine maintenance.

Real estate agents try anything to hype up properties, even a few token solar panels.
In looking at buying a property I counter that by pointing out they may be a liability on a Colourbond roof if not properly insulated.
That means insulating the screws too with a special sealant, not just some washers between the frame and the roof.
(Which is rarely ever done.)

Nearly everyone I have spoken too about fibre to the home wants it. A lot of people do more than download and browse the old internet.

i want faster internet!! Baffled to why this spud of a PM is getting rid of it!!!
I'm going out on the lim here, but this spud Abbott will be our worst ever PM...

[Bully]

So Julia won't be ?