Who will start World War 3 Vlad Putin or Joe Biden

[JohnnyDog]

Yeah i watch a lot of good stuff The Nazi Azov battalions are a nasty bunch been at it for the last 8 years or so.Been watching Azovs last stand .
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‘Those who were sitting in Azovstal are scum. Scum. I have no other word,’ says a resident of Donbass, without hiding his feelings. Murder and kidnapping, rape, and looting by Azov fighters - this is what Donbass residents talk about in our new film.
Inhuman brutality is the hallmark of Azov nationalists. People were shot for trying to leave their homes: ‘We couldn’t use the toilet. We’d go out at night, they saw from nine floors up and shoot at our feet, we were living like dogs’.
In our premiere Azov’s Last Stand – eyewitness accounts and chronology of the battle for the Azovstal plant. Watch it and share."

Grain shipments are going to begin very soon agreements are being signed hopefully its a step in the right direction and it might lead to some peace talks and end this conflict.

▪️Export of Ukrainian grain across Black Sea from Odessa, Chornomorsk, Yuzhny ports secured - agreement valid for 120 days, with extension possible

▪️The ports will not be de-mined, but safe corridors provided. Agreement does not imply military escort of ships

▪️A coordination center will be created to resolve any incidents if they occur

▪️Ships bound for Ukraine will be inspected for weapons - Russian representatives will also have access

[DOC]

Make that six dicks

[Armchair expert]

Azovs last stand brought to you by rt.com

could not make this shit up

[stan]

Yeah i watch a lot of good stuff The Nazi Azov battalions are a nasty bunch been at it for the last 8 years or so.Been watching Azovs last stand .
Quote "

‘Those who were sitting in Azovstal are scum. Scum. I have no other word,’ says a resident of Donbass, without hiding his feelings. Murder and kidnapping, rape, and looting by Azov fighters - this is what Donbass residents talk about in our new film.
Inhuman brutality is the hallmark of Azov nationalists. People were shot for trying to leave their homes: ‘We couldn’t use the toilet. We’d go out at night, they saw from nine floors up and shoot at our feet, we were living like dogs’.
In our premiere Azov’s Last Stand – eyewitness accounts and chronology of the battle for the Azovstal plant. Watch it and share."

Grain shipments are going to begin very soon agreements are being signed hopefully its a step in the right direction and it might lead to some peace talks and end this conflict.

[emoji3502]Export of Ukrainian grain across Black Sea from Odessa, Chornomorsk, Yuzhny ports secured - agreement valid for 120 days, with extension possible

[emoji3502]The ports will not be de-mined, but safe corridors provided. Agreement does not imply military escort of ships

[emoji3502]A coordination center will be created to resolve any incidents if they occur

[emoji3502]Ships bound for Ukraine will be inspected for weapons - Russian representatives will also have access

Come on mate, you know who mates that don't you?
It's like me bringing you some MSN trash I'm here. Come on mate.

A few things though, the Azovs are a right wing group. They started popping up when Crimea was annexed.

It turns out they are the easiest to paint as the Neo Nazis that are the basis of Putin's propaganda war. Pretty easy to make a "doco" to push your agenda, but I'd that was the issue with the Azovs then a short range attack out of Crimea would have been done to clean them up. Would have taken them no time at all, however it then would have pointed at Russia being in control of Crimea and not the Seperatists as Russia tells us.

In saying all of that, there is some good news a out the grain deal with the Ports. Hopefully all parties behave themselves as this is a good step forward for everyone.

Turkey doing some heavy lifting here to make sure they all play nice.

[Armchair expert]

Didn't even last 24 hours and Russia bombed the Odessa ports...

[stan]

Didn't even last 24 hours and Russia bombed the Odessa ports...

This is part of the problem that Mascow probably didn't order the strikes. Which wouldn't surprise anyone as Putin isn't fully in control of all the armed forces under Russia. You have Generals that will do there own thing and hard line Seperatists that will also so the same.

The strikes haven't caused major damage which points to being more of a strike from hard lined Separatists back by Russia but not in control by Russia if you get me.

Huge problems here that if Moscow aren't fully in control of the armed forces that any peace deals won't work.

[JohnnyDog]

if true the bombing of Odessa then Russia should be condemned but i will wait until i get all the facts before making judgement as we all know theres a great propaganda war going on between both sides and Mr Zee is pretty good at it after all he is a great actor and puppet of NATO/USA i wouldnt trust Mr Zee shady corrupt character just like his cuz Mr Putin both in the same league.

[JohnnyDog]

"The strikes haven't caused major damage which points to being more of a strike from hard lined Separatists back by Russia but not in control by Russia if you get me."

"Huge problems here that if Moscow aren't fully in control of the armed forces that any peace deals won't work."


Yep Stan takes me back to 2014 with the downing of MH 17 was it the Russians was it the separatists or was it the Azov Nazi Nationalists.

[DOC]

It was Putin. Both Jason Bourne and Jack Reacher are there deep undercover now waiting for the right moment.

[stan]

if true the bombing of Odessa then Russia should be condemned but i will wait until i get all the facts before making judgement as we all know theres a great propaganda war going on between both sides and Mr Zee is pretty good at it after all he is a great actor and puppet of NATO/USA i wouldnt trust Mr Zee shady corrupt character just like his cuz Mr Putin both in the same league.

Absolutely the fake news here is out of control Allround.

[stan]

"The strikes haven't caused major damage which points to being more of a strike from hard lined Separatists back by Russia but not in control by Russia if you get me."

"Huge problems here that if Moscow aren't fully in control of the armed forces that any peace deals won't work."


Yep Stan takes me back to 2014 with the downing of MH 17 was it the Russians was it the separatists or was it the Azov Nazi Nationalists.

Yeah bit sure a out much on that one there was so much happening into hat space.

Hopefully this can all be resolved and the ships start moving again.

[JohnnyDog]

Well heres the other side of the story Russia confirms it was a military strike.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/uk ... 825c9a6ff6

[Jim05]

Well heres the other side of the story Russia confirms it was a military strike.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/uk ... 825c9a6ff6

Very skeptical of that and appears more spin than Warnie.
IF a warehouse full of Harpoons was hit half the city would be wiped out. Those things make a nasty mess when they explode. Didn’t seem to any sort of secondary explosions whatsoever in any of the footage shown

[Armchair expert]

Hard to keep up, it wasn't us oh it was us destroying American weapons.

fact is most American weapons are happily chilling in Poland/Germany to be deployed when needed protected by Article 5

[am Bays]

Yeah i watch a lot of good stuff The Nazi Azov battalions are a nasty bunch been at it for the last 8 years or so.Been watching Azovs last stand .
Quote "

‘Those who were sitting in Azovstal are scum. Scum. I have no other word,’ says a resident of Donbass, without hiding his feelings. Murder and kidnapping, rape, and looting by Azov fighters - this is what Donbass residents talk about in our new film.
Inhuman brutality is the hallmark of Azov nationalists. People were shot for trying to leave their homes: ‘We couldn’t use the toilet. We’d go out at night, they saw from nine floors up and shoot at our feet, we were living like dogs’.
In our premiere Azov’s Last Stand – eyewitness accounts and chronology of the battle for the Azovstal plant. Watch it and share."

Grain shipments are going to begin very soon agreements are being signed hopefully its a step in the right direction and it might lead to some peace talks and end this conflict.

▪️Export of Ukrainian grain across Black Sea from Odessa, Chornomorsk, Yuzhny ports secured - agreement valid for 120 days, with extension possible

▪️The ports will not be de-mined, but safe corridors provided. Agreement does not imply military escort of ships

▪️A coordination center will be created to resolve any incidents if they occur

▪️Ships bound for Ukraine will be inspected for weapons - Russian representatives will also have access

[JohnnyDog]

Yeah good point Jim05 personally for me the more armaments that are destroyed/taken out by both sides i think is good it means hopefully less innocent people will be kiiled in this conflict

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Yeah good point Jim05 personally for me the more armaments that are destroyed/taken out by both sides i think is good it means hopefully less innocent people will be kiiled in this conflict

We would have a lot less innocent people killed if the Russians just ****** off back to Russia and let the Ukranians live in peace.

[Jim05]

Yeah good point Jim05 personally for me the more armaments that are destroyed/taken out by both sides i think is good it means hopefully less innocent people will be kiiled in this conflict

I don’t think they were taken out though.
32 Harpoon’s would consist of around 7t of high explosives. If they get hit you are talking about an explosion that would destroy half the city and leave a massive crater

[Armchair expert]

Yeah good point Jim05 personally for me the more armaments that are destroyed/taken out by both sides i think is good it means hopefully less innocent people will be kiiled in this conflict

I don’t think they were taken out though.
32 Harpoon’s would consist of around 7t of high explosives. If they get hit you are talking about an explosion that would destroy half the city and leave a massive crater

No Jim, it took out all of Ukraines harpoon missiles, 40 himars, 2000 javelins and one biolab.

[stan]

Yeah good point Jim05 personally for me the more armaments that are destroyed/taken out by both sides i think is good it means hopefully less innocent people will be kiiled in this conflict

Mate massive problem here is that firstly the Russians claim they didn't know anything about it which would be mean rogue generals at work.

Now they do and it was a military target only and full of harpoons....

What is going on with the Russian ranks here.

Is Putin fully in control?

I'm not so sure and this would indicate that whatever the goals of Moscow are, they might not be the individual goals of generals and battalion leaders or seperatists leaders.

Let's hope these grain shipments restart and both sides honor the agreement.