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Re: HFL Country Division

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CROWCUTTER wrote:SO BE IT !!!! AT LEAST A COUNTRY TEAM CAN WIN A PREMIERSHIP , HAHNDORF DONT DESERVE TO HAVE A TEAM IN COUNTRY
THEY KNEW WHAT THAT WERE DOING WAS MORALLY WRONG BUT STILL WENT AHEAD AND DID IT ANYWAY,
IN FACT PLANNED IT THAT WAY WEEKS OUT FROM THE FINALS, SO STUFF THEM .
HAHNDORF NEED TO PAY A PRICE FOR THERE ACTIONS
THERE EXCESS PLAYERS IN JUNIOR GRADES WILL NOW HAVE TO GO AND PLAY AT NEARBY CLUBS
WHICH WOULD BE WELCOMED BY THOSE CLUBS ANYWAY !


Very sad comment "crowcutter", agree things need to change but this is not the answer
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For the ill informed, the deal with Hahndorfs Country U15's is that they had to nominate their 14 best players (all of the top age group) who could only play in the Central side, the rest made up of their mainly U14 kids could play country & be able to swap between teams. Their U15 Country side is really their U14 team with some lesser players (for want of a better word) from their U15 age group. They didn't stack their side at all as the 4 kids, who someone has claimed aren't lesser lights, actually played half the season in the country side. . They've been doing it for a couple of years & was never an issue until they started winning some games, how ironic. They actually finished 3rd after the regular season & just played better in the finals & didn't choke.

Having a Hahndorf U14 team filling a slot in the country U15 comp meant their was no bye in that comp so kids got a full season rather than only 16 games, surely that's good for the kids. The same with having Hahndorf, Mt barker & Blackwood having (majority) U12 teams in the country U13 comp meant no byes & country clubs who had the full compliment of junior teams got to have more home games with all their sides playing at the same ground, surely that's better for the country clubs.

Now for the naïve thinkers who say "if Hahndorf aren't allowed to have a 2nd side in the country comp then their excess kids will play for a country team", you are wrong. The kids want to play for Hahndorf & Hahndorf only. It was about 3 years ago when they had 35 kids in their U15 side & were rotated week in week out, the KIDS would rather do that & miss out every 3rd week than play for another team. They are NOT willing to play for the likes of Sedan, Kangarilla, Gumeracha or Kersbrook who are all struggling for numbers. If anything the excess kids will play for another central club. Not letting Central clubs have a 2nd side in country div will probably kill off the country div as quick as all the other stupid ideas some have mentioned on here, all that will happen is the Gold comp will start up again.
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cracka wrote:For the ill informed, the deal with Hahndorfs Country U15's is that they had to nominate their 14 best players (all of the top age group) who could only play in the Central side, the rest made up of their mainly U14 kids could play country & be able to swap between teams. Their U15 Country side is really their U14 team with some lesser players (for want of a better word) from their U15 age group. They didn't stack their side at all as the 4 kids, who someone has claimed aren't lesser lights, actually played half the season in the country side. . They've been doing it for a couple of years & was never an issue until they started winning some games, how ironic. They actually finished 3rd after the regular season & just played better in the finals & didn't choke.

Having a Hahndorf U14 team filling a slot in the country U15 comp meant their was no bye in that comp so kids got a full season rather than only 16 games, surely that's good for the kids. The same with having Hahndorf, Mt barker & Blackwood having (majority) U12 teams in the country U13 comp meant no byes & country clubs who had the full compliment of junior teams got to have more home games with all their sides playing at the same ground, surely that's better for the country clubs.

Now for the naïve thinkers who say "if Hahndorf aren't allowed to have a 2nd side in the country comp then their excess kids will play for a country team", you are wrong. The kids want to play for Hahndorf & Hahndorf only. It was about 3 years ago when they had 35 kids in their U15 side & were rotated week in week out, the KIDS would rather do that & miss out every 3rd week than play for another team. They are NOT willing to play for the likes of Sedan, Kangarilla, Gumeracha or Kersbrook who are all struggling for numbers. If anything the excess kids will play for another central club. Not letting Central clubs have a 2nd side in country div will probably kill off the country div as quick as all the other stupid ideas some have mentioned on here, all that will happen is the Gold comp will start up again.



Thanks for a very measured, sensible and informed post.
Wondering in the future could a Littlehampton club reactivate starting with juniors (later seniors? )and play at least for the time being out of Cornerstone or Dunn Park (if it could be brought up to standard)? With the population increase in the general area, especially young families could give further opportunities for kids to play.

second thoughts don't Littlehampton already have some u8's or 9's?
Also if they ever built another oval especially if near the golf course could Mt Barker and Littlehampton share it or is there too much rivalry?
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Ye Olde Place Kick wrote:
cracka wrote:For the ill informed, the deal with Hahndorfs Country U15's is that they had to nominate their 14 best players (all of the top age group) who could only play in the Central side, the rest made up of their mainly U14 kids could play country & be able to swap between teams. Their U15 Country side is really their U14 team with some lesser players (for want of a better word) from their U15 age group. They didn't stack their side at all as the 4 kids, who someone has claimed aren't lesser lights, actually played half the season in the country side. . They've been doing it for a couple of years & was never an issue until they started winning some games, how ironic. They actually finished 3rd after the regular season & just played better in the finals & didn't choke.

Having a Hahndorf U14 team filling a slot in the country U15 comp meant their was no bye in that comp so kids got a full season rather than only 16 games, surely that's good for the kids. The same with having Hahndorf, Mt barker & Blackwood having (majority) U12 teams in the country U13 comp meant no byes & country clubs who had the full compliment of junior teams got to have more home games with all their sides playing at the same ground, surely that's better for the country clubs.

Now for the naïve thinkers who say "if Hahndorf aren't allowed to have a 2nd side in the country comp then their excess kids will play for a country team", you are wrong. The kids want to play for Hahndorf & Hahndorf only. It was about 3 years ago when they had 35 kids in their U15 side & were rotated week in week out, the KIDS would rather do that & miss out every 3rd week than play for another team. They are NOT willing to play for the likes of Sedan, Kangarilla, Gumeracha or Kersbrook who are all struggling for numbers. If anything the excess kids will play for another central club. Not letting Central clubs have a 2nd side in country div will probably kill off the country div as quick as all the other stupid ideas some have mentioned on here, all that will happen is the Gold comp will start up again.



Thanks for a very measured, sensible and informed post.
Wondering in the future could a Littlehampton club reactivate starting with juniors (later seniors? )and play at least for the time being out of Cornerstone or Dunn Park (if it could be brought up to standard)? With the population increase in the general area, especially young families could give further opportunities for kids to play.

second thoughts don't Littlehampton already have some u8's or 9's?
Also if they ever built another oval especially if near the golf course could Mt Barker and Littlehampton share it or is there too much rivalry?


In the SFL, clubs like Brighton can now have three sides in a single junior grade, say one in Saturday and two in Sunday under 14's. Neighbouring clubs struggle to fill sides in those comps and sometimes go without. there are instances where Marion didn't fill a team at all. Often all three Brighton sides will make finals. I think once two Brighton sides played in a grand final.
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Ye Olde Place Kick wrote:
cracka wrote:For the ill informed, the deal with Hahndorfs Country U15's is that they had to nominate their 14 best players (all of the top age group) who could only play in the Central side, the rest made up of their mainly U14 kids could play country & be able to swap between teams. Their U15 Country side is really their U14 team with some lesser players (for want of a better word) from their U15 age group. They didn't stack their side at all as the 4 kids, who someone has claimed aren't lesser lights, actually played half the season in the country side. . They've been doing it for a couple of years & was never an issue until they started winning some games, how ironic. They actually finished 3rd after the regular season & just played better in the finals & didn't choke.

Having a Hahndorf U14 team filling a slot in the country U15 comp meant their was no bye in that comp so kids got a full season rather than only 16 games, surely that's good for the kids. The same with having Hahndorf, Mt barker & Blackwood having (majority) U12 teams in the country U13 comp meant no byes & country clubs who had the full compliment of junior teams got to have more home games with all their sides playing at the same ground, surely that's better for the country clubs.

Now for the naïve thinkers who say "if Hahndorf aren't allowed to have a 2nd side in the country comp then their excess kids will play for a country team", you are wrong. The kids want to play for Hahndorf & Hahndorf only. It was about 3 years ago when they had 35 kids in their U15 side & were rotated week in week out, the KIDS would rather do that & miss out every 3rd week than play for another team. They are NOT willing to play for the likes of Sedan, Kangarilla, Gumeracha or Kersbrook who are all struggling for numbers. If anything the excess kids will play for another central club. Not letting Central clubs have a 2nd side in country div will probably kill off the country div as quick as all the other stupid ideas some have mentioned on here, all that will happen is the Gold comp will start up again.



Thanks for a very measured, sensible and informed post.
Wondering in the future could a Littlehampton club reactivate starting with juniors (later seniors? )and play at least for the time being out of Cornerstone or Dunn Park (if it could be brought up to standard)? With the population increase in the general area, especially young families could give further opportunities for kids to play.

second thoughts don't Littlehampton already have some u8's or 9's?
Also if they ever built another oval especially if near the golf course could Mt Barker and Littlehampton share it or is there too much rivalry?

Hahndorf were very smart a few years back & formed the Hahndorf/Littlehampton Junior Football Club & that's where they get half their junior players from. A team from Littlehampton is a must for the HFL IMO.
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cracka wrote:
Ye Olde Place Kick wrote:
cracka wrote:For the ill informed, the deal with Hahndorfs Country U15's is that they had to nominate their 14 best players (all of the top age group) who could only play in the Central side, the rest made up of their mainly U14 kids could play country & be able to swap between teams. Their U15 Country side is really their U14 team with some lesser players (for want of a better word) from their U15 age group. They didn't stack their side at all as the 4 kids, who someone has claimed aren't lesser lights, actually played half the season in the country side. . They've been doing it for a couple of years & was never an issue until they started winning some games, how ironic. They actually finished 3rd after the regular season & just played better in the finals & didn't choke.

Having a Hahndorf U14 team filling a slot in the country U15 comp meant their was no bye in that comp so kids got a full season rather than only 16 games, surely that's good for the kids. The same with having Hahndorf, Mt barker & Blackwood having (majority) U12 teams in the country U13 comp meant no byes & country clubs who had the full compliment of junior teams got to have more home games with all their sides playing at the same ground, surely that's better for the country clubs.

Now for the naïve thinkers who say "if Hahndorf aren't allowed to have a 2nd side in the country comp then their excess kids will play for a country team", you are wrong. The kids want to play for Hahndorf & Hahndorf only. It was about 3 years ago when they had 35 kids in their U15 side & were rotated week in week out, the KIDS would rather do that & miss out every 3rd week than play for another team. They are NOT willing to play for the likes of Sedan, Kangarilla, Gumeracha or Kersbrook who are all struggling for numbers. If anything the excess kids will play for another central club. Not letting Central clubs have a 2nd side in country div will probably kill off the country div as quick as all the other stupid ideas some have mentioned on here, all that will happen is the Gold comp will start up again.



Thanks for a very measured, sensible and informed post.
Wondering in the future could a Littlehampton club reactivate starting with juniors (later seniors? )and play at least for the time being out of Cornerstone or Dunn Park (if it could be brought up to standard)? With the population increase in the general area, especially young families could give further opportunities for kids to play.

second thoughts don't Littlehampton already have some u8's or 9's?
Also if they ever built another oval especially if near the golf course could Mt Barker and Littlehampton share it or is there too much rivalry?

Hahndorf were very smart a few years back & formed the Hahndorf/Littlehampton Junior Football Club & that's where they get half their junior players from. A team from Littlehampton is a must for the HFL IMO.
I thought there were plans to build a sporting complex in the paddock on the RHS as you head towards Nairne, but maybe I dreamt that.

Hahndorf did not form the "Hahndorf/Littlehampton" junior football club, they just added the Littlehampton name to their signs around the place and by default got a heap of juniors from Littlehampton.
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6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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As Echunga have found - central div clubs with excess players are more likely to see those players go to another central club - as we are testament to.
Due to the tyranny of distance with Country div, parents and kids seem reticent to travel and will likely shift to the nearest Central club.
The more juniors that get a game regardless of where they play is best outcome.
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Gums gunning for Central United and Smithfield hot head Mark Garner

And hear the Brookers have a former Div 1 Amateur player and a Hills Central Mail Medalist joining its ranks.
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What's the story with Sedan Cambrai they staying or going else where?
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Ye Olde Place Kick wrote:What's the story with Sedan Cambrai they staying or going else where?


Thought they were going to Riverland independent?
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anyone know whose coaching Birdwood in 2015?
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Rooster wrote:anyone know whose coaching Birdwood in 2015?


Same coach as last two years.


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19thman wrote:
Rooster wrote:anyone know whose coaching Birdwood in 2015?


Same coach as last two years.


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I heard the coach is on a recruitment drive to add to their young and upcoming list for 2015. He has signed up the majority from last season and has already signed a few on for next season with more to come...

Big improvers in 2015 if they can have better luck with injuries?
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cossi11 wrote:
19thman wrote:
Rooster wrote:anyone know whose coaching Birdwood in 2015?


Same coach as last two years.


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I heard the coach is on a recruitment drive to add to their young and upcoming list for 2015. He has signed up the majority from last season and has already signed a few on for next season with more to come...

Big improvers in 2015 if they can have better luck with injuries?


and the high paid recruit doesn't swan off to Brazil to get his head caught on TV :D
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anyone know much about the new sedan coach?
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wonder_kid wrote:anyone know much about the new sedan coach?


Someone with a lot of patience and hopefully not an appetite for recruiting mercenaries from Div 5 Amateurs!! :roll:
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WingerFC wrote:
wonder_kid wrote:anyone know much about the new sedan coach?


Someone with a lot of patience and hopefully not an appetite for recruiting mercenaries from Div 5 Amateurs!! :roll:


Or paying decent $$$ for teenagers with less than 5 games of A Grade experience.
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Pag wrote:
WingerFC wrote:
wonder_kid wrote:anyone know much about the new sedan coach?


Someone with a lot of patience and hopefully not an appetite for recruiting mercenaries from Div 5 Amateurs!! :roll:


Or paying decent $$$ for teenagers with less than 5 games of A Grade experience.

By the sounds of it they are staying with the HFL & not moving to the Independant comp
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cracka wrote:
Pag wrote:
WingerFC wrote:
wonder_kid wrote:anyone know much about the new sedan coach?


Someone with a lot of patience and hopefully not an appetite for recruiting mercenaries from Div 5 Amateurs!! :roll:


Or paying decent $$$ for teenagers with less than 5 games of A Grade experience.

By the sounds of it they are staying with the HFL & not moving to the Independant comp

Well lets hope it's in the C grade of the HFL becasue they're ruining div 2!
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