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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:04 pm

Interesting read.
I think Brahma Lodge is entirely guilty.

Did anything follow that other complaint about them?
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Brumbies » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:12 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting read.
I think Brahma Lodge is entirely guilty.

Did anything follow that other complaint about them?


IF this is 100% true, then yeah Brahma Lodge should lose on forfeit, BUT it is only one side of the story. Having played both ICC and Brahma there are some parts of the review I could believe, and some parts I had to laugh at.

Will be interesting to see what ATCA do, especially with a finals spot riding on it for Brahma and Old Ignations.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:17 pm

I was being sarcastic about it being Brahma's fault. lol
Everything seems very lily white in that review.
I like the suggestion that they would at least appreciate a rematch.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Trader » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:46 am

Some of my favourite lines:

one of our batsmen actually walked off even though he got a stumping decision in his favour by the leg umpire


Why did he walk off after being given not out? Could it be that he knew he was out and it was his mate at square leg that was bending the rules?

our scoring was perfect with not even a single run discrepancy.


Why make this comment? Is it because in the past you have been known to add runs repeatedly?
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby human_torpedo » Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:29 pm

Any news on a resolution to the ICC v BL case? Hopefully soon since it affects finals positions
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby tedbullpit » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:05 pm

human_torpedo wrote:Any news on a resolution to the ICC v BL case? Hopefully soon since it affects finals positions


ATCA website is now showing a win to Brahma Lodge.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby human_torpedo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:47 am

I'd love to know what actually happened. Its weird how ICC appeared to want to play on, but BL pulled stumps and went off, they get awarded the game? Obviously im only going by that rather humorous recounting of things in the captains report, but still i'd like to know how the ATCA came to the conclusion that Brahma get awarded the game
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:57 am

human_torpedo wrote:I'd love to know what actually happened. Its weird how ICC appeared to want to play on, but BL pulled stumps and went off, they get awarded the game? Obviously im only going by that rather humorous recounting of things in the captains report, but still i'd like to know how the ATCA came to the conclusion that Brahma get awarded the game

I thinks it's a no brainer.
Why would an away team pull up the stumps or walk away while they were none fa chasing a gettable target?
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:21 am

I note the review's been reviewed and removed.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:26 am

It seems we play the champagne-popping Modbury now.
Brahma to take on Unley.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Trader » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:48 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:I'd love to know what actually happened. Its weird how ICC appeared to want to play on, but BL pulled stumps and went off, they get awarded the game? Obviously im only going by that rather humorous recounting of things in the captains report, but still i'd like to know how the ATCA came to the conclusion that Brahma get awarded the game

I thinks it's a no brainer.
Why would an away team pull up the stumps or walk away while they were none fa chasing a gettable target?


Exactly.

I've been involved in a game with ICC where they cracked the sh!ts and stopped playing. Stood around for nearly 10 minutes waiting for them to start again. As the home team, I can easily see BL saying, well if you aren't going to bowl, we'll pack up and go to the pub.
Easy for ICC to now report there was an incident and then BL pulled the stumps out and walked off.

They are terrible individuals, good to see ATCA rule against them.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby human_torpedo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:49 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:I'd love to know what actually happened. Its weird how ICC appeared to want to play on, but BL pulled stumps and went off, they get awarded the game? Obviously im only going by that rather humorous recounting of things in the captains report, but still i'd like to know how the ATCA came to the conclusion that Brahma get awarded the game

I thinks it's a no brainer.
Why would an away team pull up the stumps or walk away while they were none fa chasing a gettable target?


My point exactly. BL had no reason to walk off, but like I said we have only heard ICC's warped side of things, I'd like to know what ACTUALLY happened. I have my theories but I dont want to violate ATCA's 'Social Media policy' which they rammed down us at the Delgates meeting the other week, so I wont slander anyone with my theory
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:50 am

human_torpedo wrote:

My point exactly. BL had no reason to walk off, but like I said we have only heard ICC's warped side of things, I'd like to know what ACTUALLY happened. I have my theories but I dont want to violate ATCA's 'Social Media policy' which they rammed down us at the Delgates meeting the other week, so I wont slander anyone with my theory

Well at least their scorebook was perfect.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:59 am

Would BL have rung someone from ATCA, explained the situation and been given permission to walk off?

Think you'd want some guarantee as it's always a your word versus theirs situation.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby human_torpedo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:02 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:

My point exactly. BL had no reason to walk off, but like I said we have only heard ICC's warped side of things, I'd like to know what ACTUALLY happened. I have my theories but I dont want to violate ATCA's 'Social Media policy' which they rammed down us at the Delgates meeting the other week, so I wont slander anyone with my theory

Well at least their scorebook was perfect.


Thats the silver lining of this while saga. Maybe they thought that was enough to get the points?
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:28 pm

human_torpedo wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:

My point exactly. BL had no reason to walk off, but like I said we have only heard ICC's warped side of things, I'd like to know what ACTUALLY happened. I have my theories but I dont want to violate ATCA's 'Social Media policy' which they rammed down us at the Delgates meeting the other week, so I wont slander anyone with my theory

Well at least their scorebook was perfect.


Thats the silver lining of this while saga. Maybe they thought that was enough to get the points?

I thought it was the clincher.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Shark_Hunter » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:32 pm

ICC are a disgrace. The LO5 game last weekend actually did become physical. The AHOS captain told me of their blatant cheating and aggression throughout the day (and a game earlier in the year where their batting added up to 40 runs more than the bowling and their captain demanded to take the batting score). Heard Jars complaining about them on the radio also.
Now I will admit that AHOS are no angels and indeed have been responsible for some poor behaviour in the past that as a club we have tried to deal with and accepted penalties from ATCA, but the sheer number of complaints about this club surely means ATCA need to look at their removal from the competition.
And yes, we will be putting in a formal complaint to David.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby helicopterking » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:11 pm

Shark_Hunter wrote:ICC are a disgrace. The LO5 game last weekend actually did become physical. The AHOS captain told me of their blatant cheating and aggression throughout the day (and a game earlier in the year where their batting added up to 40 runs more than the bowling and their captain demanded to take the batting score). Heard Jars complaining about them on the radio also.
Now I will admit that AHOS are no angels and indeed have been responsible for some poor behaviour in the past that as a club we have tried to deal with and accepted penalties from ATCA, but the sheer number of complaints about this club surely means ATCA need to look at their removal from the competition.
And yes, we will be putting in a formal complaint to David.


Our game against them had the potential to become physical as well in LO5s. After the dismissal of their opening batsmen, they then proceeded to hammer the stumps back in with our ball,every time the stumps were broken. They were told kindly the first time by our skipper, then not so kindly after that. Then accused us of ball tampering because we wouldn't give the ball back to them after a wicket. Our Skipper handled it very well, as our team is full of kids and didn't want them learning bad habits so early in their careers.
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby human_torpedo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:14 pm

One of our players thought that ICC in this case stood for 'International Cricket Council' and expected better of them when we were discussing the matter last night.. Genuine fact! Nothing to do with this topic really I just got a good laugh from it
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Re: ATCA 2014/15.

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:49 am

Funny on two counts, HT. How naive to expect good behaviour from the actual international version of the ICC, though. Let's be honest.
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