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Re: Club Financials

Postby gazzamagoo » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:35 am

Booney wrote:
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Brett wrote:Still need supporters and members as if you dont have those then you are gone. 3k members at an average say of $60 is 180k . I think most clubs would take that .

Centrals would be lucky to have 2,000 members.


They all left with the pied piper?

we've never had a large membership, even when we were churning out flags.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:14 am

gazzamagoo wrote:
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Brett wrote:Still need supporters and members as if you dont have those then you are gone. 3k members at an average say of $60 is 180k . I think most clubs would take that .

Centrals would be lucky to have 2,000 members.


They all left with the pied piper?

we've never had a large membership, even when we were churning out flags.


True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D
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Re: Club Financials

Postby Booney » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:39 am

bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


You had 4-or-5000 end-to-enders at minor round games then? :roll:

Sure you did.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:01 pm

Booney wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


You had 4-or-5000 end-to-enders at minor round games then? :roll:

Sure you did.


Would love to know the last time we ever had 4-or-5000 end-to-enders! :)
However, our crowds at finals never really went up as much as they did for other teams. The SANFL has never been praying for finals featuring Central the same way they have for Sturt, Port, Norwood or Glenelg. We don't suddenly have a huge increase at finals time compared to minor round matches.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby JK » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:21 pm

bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


Lol I know at least a few people that only went once a year to watch the Dogs - Like all clubs you had plenty of them (we did too when the good times returned). Pity the glory hunting supporters dont convert to members as much as all clubs would like.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby DOC » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:57 pm

JK wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


Lol I know at least a few people that only went once a year to watch the Dogs - Like all clubs you had plenty of them (we did too when the good times returned). Pity the glory hunting supporters dont convert to members as much as all clubs would like.


We do not have bands or wagons let alone bandwaggoners.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:31 pm

JK wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


Lol I know at least a few people that only went once a year to watch the Dogs - Like all clubs you had plenty of them (we did too when the good times returned). Pity the glory hunting supporters dont convert to members as much as all clubs would like.


Agreed that it would be great if all 'supporters' (even fair-weather ones) became members and actually gave the club the much needed cash injection. Yes, there would have been some 'bandwaggoners at Central but nowhere near as many as at the Big Four. When Norwood, Sturt, Glenelg and Port make finals, the SANFL rub their hands with glee knowing the attendances will shoot up markedly due to their own 'bandwagons'. South, West, North, the Eagles and Central only need a few carriages for their wagons, the big four need a huge train! :D Admittedly, I wish the trains for all clubs 'bandwaggoners' would be as big today as a few decades back!
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Re: Club Financials

Postby Brett » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:41 pm

Its because they have more supporters . All clubs have them but unfortunately some dont have many to draw from. I would think North have a decent following though and they certainly turned out last year . The Eagles often rant about their numbers but its a false economy .
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Re: Club Financials

Postby robranisgod » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:29 am

Brett wrote:Its because they have more supporters . All clubs have them but unfortunately some dont have many to draw from. I would think North have a decent following though and they certainly turned out last year . The Eagles often rant about their numbers but its a false economy .


North certainly has a decent following when they are going well. Doug Thomas always referred to the "Big 5" and included North.

In the final series last year North certainly matched Sturt for support in the First Semi Final and easily outnumbered South and the Eagles in the finals against those clubs. Even in the Grand Final the crowd seemed 50/50. And remember the Grand Final drew the biggest crowd in 20 years.

The Eagles count every junior who play in their local under age competition in their numbers. They always brag of their membership numbers and then bleated that the league wanted North in the Grand Final because of the guaranteed extra 10,000 people they would bring.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby bulldogproud » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:50 am

Brett wrote:Its because they have more supporters . All clubs have them but unfortunately some dont have many to draw from. I would think North have a decent following though and they certainly turned out last year . The Eagles often rant about their numbers but its a false economy .


Not to labour the point, but that is what I meant. During the minor round, the average number of people attending matches is only about 400 - 500 more for clubs such as the 'Big 5' than the others; however, in finals, the numbers swell by thousands more. Thus, it can be said that the 'Big 5' tend to have more 'bandwaggoners' than clubs such as South, West, Central and the Eagles. Even when the latter four clubs are successful, our numbers don't swell by anywhere near as much as the 'Big 5' do.
As for Adelaide, apparently they get 4 000 to every minor round match :oops: and don't add to this in finals, so they can't have any 'bandwaggoners' at all :) :roll:

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Re: Club Financials

Postby therisingblues » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:36 pm

robranisgod wrote:
Brett wrote:Its because they have more supporters . All clubs have them but unfortunately some dont have many to draw from. I would think North have a decent following though and they certainly turned out last year . The Eagles often rant about their numbers but its a false economy .


North certainly has a decent following when they are going well. Doug Thomas always referred to the "Big 5" and included North.

In the final series last year North certainly matched Sturt for support in the First Semi Final and easily outnumbered South and the Eagles in the finals against those clubs. Even in the Grand Final the crowd seemed 50/50. And remember the Grand Final drew the biggest crowd in 20 years.

The Eagles count every junior who play in their local under age competition in their numbers. They always brag of their membership numbers and then bleated that the league wanted North in the Grand Final because of the guaranteed extra 10,000 people they would bring.

I would say you outnumbered us RIG. It might be a little hard to estimate because North played so much better and hence your crowd had more reason to make noise, but it certainly seemd as though we were outnumbered.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby therisingblues » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:38 pm

bulldogproud wrote:
Brett wrote:Its because they have more supporters . All clubs have them but unfortunately some dont have many to draw from. I would think North have a decent following though and they certainly turned out last year . The Eagles often rant about their numbers but its a false economy .


Not to labour the point, but that is what I meant. During the minor round, the average number of people attending matches is only about 400 - 500 more for clubs such as the 'Big 5' than the others; however, in finals, the numbers swell by thousands more. Thus, it can be said that the 'Big 5' tend to have more 'bandwaggoners' than clubs such as South, West, Central and the Eagles. Even when the latter four clubs are successful, our numbers don't swell by anywhere near as much as the 'Big 5' do.
As for Adelaide, apparently they get 4 000 to every minor round match :oops: and don't add to this in finals, so they can't have any 'bandwaggoners' at all :) :roll:

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What's the opposite of a bandwagon? Of the 4,000 projected supporters we have seen barely 300 on a good day, if that.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby whybother » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:03 am

"What's the opposite of a bandwagon? Of the 4,000 projected supporters we have seen barely 300 on a good day, if that."

A Ginger Meggs billycart?
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Re: Club Financials

Postby shoe boy » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:30 am

What salary cap are SANFL clubs bound by ?
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Re: Club Financials

Postby stan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:10 pm

shoe boy wrote:What salary cap are SANFL clubs bound by ?
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Re: Club Financials

Postby StrayDog » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:15 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
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Brett wrote:Still need supporters and members as if you dont have those then you are gone. 3k members at an average say of $60 is 180k . I think most clubs would take that .

Centrals would be lucky to have 2,000 members.


They all left with the pied piper?

we've never had a large membership, even when we were churning out flags.

Fair call. The success not translating on the membership front was an ongoing frustration for the CDFC, which was hardly a secret amongst SANFL followers during those years.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby LMA » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:24 pm

JK wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:True, unlike a few other sides, it can never be said we had 'bandwaggoners' :D


Lol I know at least a few people that only went once a year to watch the Dogs - Like all clubs you had plenty of them (we did too when the good times returned). Pity the glory hunting supporters dont convert to members as much as all clubs would like.


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Re: Club Financials

Postby StrayDog » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:59 am

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Re: Club Financials

Postby DOC » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:35 am

Sturt post a surplus of $683000.

Pretty impressive.
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Re: Club Financials

Postby Brodlach » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:10 am

DOC wrote:Sturt post a surplus of $683000.

Pretty impressive.



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