Matthew Slade and the Cruise Ship

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Postby JessicaRabbit69 » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:00 am

In fact, I think it'd be remiss of Slade and the Doggies NOT to chase the papers for libel.
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Postby Wedgie » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:40 pm

Im still trying to work out if I get the early or late edition of the paper with no mention of it in my Thursdays paper but everyone elses having his name in. :(
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Postby Grand Central » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:43 pm

It was in the first print run (the country edition) before being altered for the main print run (I think), Wedgie.
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Postby Wedgie » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:49 pm

Grand Central wrote:It was in the first print run (the country edition) before being altered for the main print run (I think), Wedgie.


Which one was the country edition though, the one with Sladey's name or the one without?
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Postby Grand Central » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:52 pm

The country edition described Slade as a Central District footballer. It wasn't as "bad" as The Australian's story.
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Postby Wedgie » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:12 pm

Grand Central wrote:The country edition described Slade as a Central District footballer. It wasn't as "bad" as The Australian's story.


Cheers, I dont think my workmate will be too happy to find out he gets the country edition despite living in Unley while I get the metro edition living at Happy Valley! Nothing would suprise me with the Advertiser though.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:21 pm

This is a good example of how journalists don't check their facts accurately enough before spilling their guts in the paper. I'd like to see an example set of this journalist and a message sent to other to lift their game. I rarely read newspapers these days because I simply cannot be sure if what I am reading is fact. My apologies to the odd exception, but I have a general dislike for journalists.
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Postby Wedgie » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:26 pm

Cheers to the forumite who sent me this image of the Australian article (sorry, I didn't know who "username" was of the person who sent it to me was, Grandcentral perhaps?) - What an absolute disgrace this is, and its good to see people put their allegieances aside to be united in condemming this crap piece of journalism.

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Postby BobNorth » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:01 am

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Postby giffo » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:22 pm

These reporters must have gone to the "KG & Cornes School of Journalism." The school creed "We don't let the facts get in the way"
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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:03 pm

Also noticed in the retraction in the Advertiser the day after, that the word "regret" was used rather than "apologise" or "sorry".
Maybe someone with a better legal mind than myself could explain but I thought in cases like this it doesn't matter what words you use, as just by the story going to print in the first place means you are in the pooh regarding libel. "Sorry" only incriminates someone in the event of non-certain facts.
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Postby Grand Central » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:47 pm

Courts order apologies. Newspapers offer "clarification".
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Postby GWW » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:23 pm

Its interesting how lately the Advertiser has been including the middle name of this Slade guy in the articles, to differentiate him from the centrals player.
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Postby Kevin » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:07 pm

Insurers won't let the media apologise, unless it is part of an agreed settlement. The reason is that an apology is an admission of guilt in these circumstances. Then, the only argument is about $$$.

By not apologising, the "victim" of defamation potebntially has to discount the claim in any settlement negotiations to cover the contingency that libel isn't proved.

In the present case, the contingency is less than 1% (IMHO), but the Insurers like to be consistent and may be (on the basis of the standard policy wording) be entitled to refuse to indemnify News Corp in any subsequent proceedings.

Finally (lecture coming to an end), potentially Wedgie may also have defamed MS, by republishing the said article on this site, but may be covered by a defence of fair comment on a matter of public interest.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:00 pm

Did anyone else find yesterdays "front page" of the Advertiser "off"? Surely the lady is entitled to some dignity?
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Postby MatteeG » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:10 pm

Agreed punky!

If the allegations are true, those blokes deserve a bullet.
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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:35 pm

Kevin wrote:Insurers won't let the media apologise, unless it is part of an agreed settlement. The reason is that an apology is an admission of guilt in these circumstances. Then, the only argument is about $$$.

By not apologising, the "victim" of defamation potebntially has to discount the claim in any settlement negotiations to cover the contingency that libel isn't proved.

In the present case, the contingency is less than 1% (IMHO), but the Insurers like to be consistent and may be (on the basis of the standard policy wording) be entitled to refuse to indemnify News Corp in any subsequent proceedings.

Finally (lecture coming to an end), potentially Wedgie may also have defamed MS, by republishing the said article on this site, but may be covered by a defence of fair comment on a matter of public interest.


Thanks Kevin, do appreciate your explanation on this one. Will clear up for those who still wonder why the "S" word will never be uttered over that other matter.
I Still say though that The Advertiser and other associated papers will be screwed in any case if Slade decides to take legal action as they have incorrectly named him in a public forum.
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Postby purch » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:43 pm

For those interested, this issue just had good coverage on the ABC's Media Watch. Visit the ABC website soon for a transcript
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Postby Brucetiki » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:44 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:Did anyone else find yesterdays "front page" of the Advertiser "off"? Surely the lady is entitled to some dignity?


IMO, the whole reporting of the entire inquest has been a disgrace, and the following day's letters to the editor pretty much echoed what Punk Rooster said (I was surprised The Antagoniser gave so much space for those letters). Soon The Adveritiser going to be needed to be covered in black plastic with a big R inside a diamond on the outside of the plastic.

I hope Mediawatch do a big song and dance about it - if alerted they'll have a field day over this.
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Postby purch » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:58 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Did anyone else find yesterdays "front page" of the Advertiser "off"? Surely the lady is entitled to some dignity?


IMO, the whole reporting of the entire inquest has been a disgrace, and the following day's letters to the editor pretty much echoed what Punk Rooster said (I was surprised The Antagoniser gave so much space for those letters). Soon The Adveritiser going to be needed to be covered in black plastic with a big R inside a diamond on the outside of the plastic.

I hope Mediawatch do a big song and dance about it - if alerted they'll have a field day over this.


Oh yes Brucetiki / Punk, Media Watch had a bit to say about the front page you refer to I think. Disgraceful. The original photo was more tasteful than the edit. I'm ashamed to say my face was in that paper a few weeks ago, albeit on a brighter note, but alas...hmmmmorons
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