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Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:12 am

News just hot off the press is that Mcgregor, Skipworth and Vince will all play in the crucial match against the Tigs. They have been named amongst a team which inludes another 10 league experienced players. What hope does this give Glenelg. Go you mighty Eagles!!!
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Re: Eagles Reserves side for Elimination Final

Postby BPBRB » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:38 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:News just hot off the press is that Mcgregor, Skipworth and Vince will all play in the crucial match against the Tigs. They have been named amongst a team which inludes another 10 league experienced players. What hope does this give Glenelg. Go you mighty Eagles!!!


Yep it will be a memorable match this one let's all race out to see a game where another stupid ruling agreed to by a piss weak SANFL to appease their AFL teams but with no regard for any intergrity for the SANFL comp. At least it should get some media coverage. There will be more highlights of this blockbuster on some channels than the league double header the next day because a handful of fulltime professional train every day well paid AFL players need a precious little run.

I wonder what Craigy would have said if this happened back when he was coach of Norwood and his then club was on the receiving end or Reid and Noble for that matter when they were senior coaches in the SANFL? Just goes to show they don't give a shit after all.

I wonder what Fuller told those Eagles ressies players who miss out to accomodate the "AFL stars" after all it was those players who busted their guts to drag them off bottom halfway through the year to get them to the finals.
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Postby spell_check » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:49 am

I would have preferred it if they would have been included the following week, Vince and Skipworth have played a reasonable abmount of matches this year for the Eagles anyway. It is unfair of course for the regular reserves players and it wouldn't have mattered to me if they weren't in there.
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Re: Eagles Reserves side for Elimination Final

Postby mal » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:52 am

BPBRB wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:News just hot off the press is that Mcgregor, Skipworth and Vince will all play in the crucial match against the Tigs. They have been named amongst a team which inludes another 10 league experienced players. What hope does this give Glenelg. Go you mighty Eagles!!!


Yep it will be a memorable match this one let's all race out to see a game where another stupid ruling agreed to by a piss weak SANFL to appease their AFL teams but with no regard for any intergrity for the SANFL comp. At least it should get some media coverage. There will be more highlights of this blockbuster on some channels than the league double header the next day because a handful of fulltime professional train every day well paid AFL players need a precious little run.

I wonder what Craigy would have said if this happened back when he was coach of Norwood and his then club was on the receiving end or Reid and Noble for that matter when they were senior coaches in the SANFL? Just goes to show they don't give a shit after all.

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I wonder what Fuller told those Eagles ressies players who miss out to accomodate the "AFL stars" after all it was those players who busted their guts to drag them off bottom halfway through the year to get them to the finals.

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Postby am Bays » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:04 am

As Glen Elliot once told me, Crisis creates opportunity....

Guess what those three blokes have two arms and two legs just like Glenelg players, they are just other footballers wearing a different guernsey to our boys. Put them under pressure and they will **** up just like everyother footballer who has ever played this great game.

Fear no-one boys, perfect opportunity for some of our young boys to pit themselves agaisnt AFL listed footballers and have a read hot crack. Our boys should be cueing up to stand those blokes, find out how good they are, who knows, good performace agaisnt those AFL players and our boys draft chances wont be harmed in any way...... :wink:

Go out and enjoy it boys, enjoy the opportunity.....
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Postby sturt1 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:10 am

Dont worry about it, what is more dissapointing having your reserves team play against a star line up opposition or missing out on league finals by losing your last minor round game.
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Postby JamesH » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:26 am

this game is a potential banana skin for the Eagles now.....

its a shame three players will miss out.... if its any consolation Mcgreggor usually plays reserves for the eagles when not at the crows
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Re: Eagles Reserves side for Elimination Final

Postby - » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:38 am

BPBRB wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:News just hot off the press is that Mcgregor, Skipworth and Vince will all play in the crucial match against the Tigs. They have been named amongst a team which inludes another 10 league experienced players. What hope does this give Glenelg. Go you mighty Eagles!!!


Yep it will be a memorable match this one let's all race out to see a game where another stupid ruling agreed to by a piss weak SANFL to appease their AFL teams but with no regard for any intergrity for the SANFL comp. At least it should get some media coverage. There will be more highlights of this blockbuster on some channels than the league double header the next day because a handful of fulltime professional train every day well paid AFL players need a precious little run.

I wonder what Craigy would have said if this happened back when he was coach of Norwood and his then club was on the receiving end or Reid and Noble for that matter when they were senior coaches in the SANFL? Just goes to show they don't give a shit after all.

I wonder what Fuller told those Eagles ressies players who miss out to accomodate the "AFL stars" after all it was those players who busted their guts to drag them off bottom halfway through the year to get them to the finals.


Ok then would you rather both AFL sides have a reserves side in the competition? :roll:

Its a part of the SANFL that has been here for 15 years. I think we should count our lucky stars the Eagles reserves are in the finals otherwise the league team would have a distinct advantage and then have to forego it come grand Final day due to the fact Mcgregor is not qualified.

I assume you are a Glenelg supporter? Put the shoe on the other foot. Say the bays are lucky enough (like port adelaide) to be in the AFL. Would you then want your players who needed a run to be able to back to the SANFL and have a run no matter what? If you say no you are telling a porky. The AFL is the most important competition. It has to be this way.



The reserves are just not that important. They serve a purpose and in all truthfullness that purpose no longer needs to be served with Glenelg out of the finals.
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Postby ca » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:36 am

I have never heard so much complaining about a reserves game. Its been happening for years in reserves finals football. For some reason this year everbody is complaining. Next year it could be the other way around Bays have a heap of AFL players back into their reserves team come finals. Just get on with it.
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Postby Ecky » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:08 pm

Also, can someone please explain why Westbrook has been named for the Eagles Reserves team?

Assuming it is THE David Westbrook (there is no evidence on http://www.sanfl.com.au of any others) he has played 19 League and 0 Reserves games this year (only missing the last game).

How can he be eligible???

Edit: There is a Simon Westbrook who has played some under 19s, but he has been named on the bench for the Under 19s this week, so I doubt this is him...
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Postby ca » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:19 pm

He is eligible because the league team is still alive and he didn't play last week but I do see your point on this one. The Eagles 'theoretically' have to name a league side presumably the 21 that played last week. Of course there are a few outs because of the Crows. Just one of those rule loopholes.

With Crows players in the reserves I really think those players have to be close to selection. For instance of Norwood's three Meeson. Gibson and Pfeiffer, only Meeson has a very slight chance of playing AFL while West have Bonnaddio who has no chance as he is on the Rookie list. Pfeiffer was told weeks ago he wouldn't get a game.

I think people just have to accept that some years that get the benefit of the rules and other years they don't.
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Postby bulldogproud » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:30 pm

It is a little ironic that the Eagles reserves only made the finals because they had various Crows players play for them virtue of the Eagles being bottom at the time. I very much remember Welsh's nine goals at Norwood Oval for instance.
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Postby Ecky » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:31 pm

ca wrote:I think people just have to accept that some years that get the benefit of the rules and other years they don't.


Hint hint South Adelaide :wink:
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Postby Aerie » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:34 pm

bulldogproud wrote:It is a little ironic that the Eagles reserves only made the finals because they had various Crows players play for them virtue of the Eagles being bottom at the time. I very much remember Welsh's nine goals at Norwood Oval for instance.


So the teams out of the finals would have made up 2 and a half games plus at least 7%??? Pffft. :roll:
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Postby sus » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:50 pm

bulldogproud wrote:It is a little ironic that the Eagles reserves only made the finals because they had various Crows players play for them virtue of the Eagles being bottom at the time. I very much remember Welsh's nine goals at Norwood Oval for instance.


Is there a prize for the most misinformed and/or ridiculous comment on this forum – this would be a worthy candidate? Are you just baiting or is this for real? Have a look at all the results BDP – the Eagles and North reserves have been the two form teams of the comp and will likely play off in the GF with or without any help from the Crows. :roll:
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Postby BPBRB » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:00 pm

People miss the point about this whole topic. Let's take Centrals - they don't have a Ressies side in the finals. What do any of their fringe players up for selection do this week to keep fit if not in the final 21? Nothing but training. Why don't we send them to a lesser grade to keep up match fitness? why not - because it would absurd and unfair. If the Dogs win this week, then knock off the Eagles and get a week off before the GF - what do any of their stars who may miss this week or next in my scenario who suddenly are fit and up for GF selection which could well be the case with one of the Gowans? Do we let them play in the week off in a lesser grade to get match fitness?. No we don't so why should we do the same with the Crows and Power players.

I have no problems with them playing in the SANFL League teams in finals as long as they are qualified by virtue of playing what ever is the reqd. minimum number of minor round games (currently 3 but should be at least 5) for their club but if they have not, then no way should they play and in no circumstances should they be allowed to in a grade 2 below their normal standard! Just treat both AFL clubs like a SANFL club come finals - if the ressies don't make it then the fringe and returning players just have to train as would any SANFL player in that circumstance if their clubs ressies hadn't made finals.
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Postby Ecky » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:03 pm

BPBRB wrote:People miss the point about this whole topic. Let's take Centrals - they don't have a Ressies side in the finals. Wat do any of their fringe players up for selection do this week to keep fit. Why don't we send them to a lesser grade to keep up match fitness? why not - because it would absurd and unfair. If the Dogs win this week, then knock off the Eagles and get a week off before the GF - what do any of their stars who may miss this week or next in my scenario who suddenly are fit and up for GF selection which could well be the case with one of the Gowans? Do we let them play in the week off in a lesser grade to get match fitness?. No we don't so why should we do the same with the Crows and Power players.

I have no problems with them playing in the SANFL League teams in finals as long as they are qualified by virtue of playing what ever is the reqd. minimum number of minor round games (currently 3 but should be at least 5) for their club but if they have not, then no way should they play and in no circumstances should they be allowed to in a grade 2 below their normal standard! Just treat both AFL clubs like a SANFL club come finals - if the ressies don't make it then the fringe and returning players just have to train as would any SANFL player in that circumstance if their clubs ressies hadn't made finals.


I agree Drebin.
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Postby bulldogproud » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:46 pm

Sus, I was probably just baiting but there is no doubt that being bottom for the first half of the season definitely helped the Eagles by getting Power and Crow players playing for them when their SANFL team had a bye. After all, the Eagles did not have their first win in the Reserves until Round 7.
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Postby sus » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:50 pm

bulldogproud wrote:Sus, I was probably just baiting but there is no doubt that being bottom for the first half of the season definitely helped the Eagles by getting Power and Crow players playing for them when their SANFL team had a bye. After all, the Eagles did not have their first win in the Reserves until Round 7.
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I agree with that but having a few AFL players for a couple of games had zero to do with them making the finals!
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Postby bulldogproud » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:52 pm

It sure helped in the win against Norwood at Coopers. How many points clear of sixth did the Eagles finish? I thought it was only three.
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